Some food for thought off reddit

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This question was posed on ARAD:

Is there woman that have never had an above average penis ?
he goes on: Are there woman out there that by chance have never had a above average penis because it seems every girl has experienced a big one at least once. Has anyone been so unlucky ?

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I’ve only ever had average ones, and consider myself lucky, not unlucky. Porn has steered you wrong, friend—many women prefer average cocks, as large ones can be painful, particularly when enjoying vigorous sex. (13 upvotes)

I've only had one partner, so I've only experienced one penis. I consider myself lucky that it's a normal-sized one. I'm not interested in monster dongs.

Only around average ones here too. Largest was probably a 6 in. Around there, never measured his dick with a ruler.

I've mostly experienced average cock and I consider myself lucky. I've had sex with dozens of guys and only two of them had particularly large cocks. It's really unpleasant and I hope not to encounter anymore big guys. Uncomfortable at best, painful at worst.
 

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VERY interesting their view on average penis'. It also seems to align somewhat with the penis size preference study with the blue cylinders, although it would be ideal that the, or other researchers, would expand the sample size to much larger than a mere 75 individuals.
 

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As an addendum:

A woman posted "Almost certainly."
When asked "Happy or sad about it ?"
Replied "I wish I'd never encountered a large one. "
 

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Another question popped up today that is relevant for us:

Anyone else find small dicks sexy?
Yes!! (9 upvotes)


I absolutely LOVE smaller dicks! (6)


Yeah, I have a thing for small and thick ones (5)


Yes yes yes! I vastly prefer small dicks over big ones. (4)


Bi fellow. My opinion may not be as important as the female perspective but I think smaller ones are just as good as larger ones and certainly have their perks. I don't like receiving penetration and equate that to women who don't receive as much pleasure from PiV as both of us would rather get our mouths, hands, and toys involved. Smaller ones also tend to get harder and pretty much every penis lover agrees that hardness is sexier than bigness. (2)
 

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Seems to me about 10 or 15 % of women claim to be concerned with penis size . Of those some prefer less than average . Of the rest some want upper average and then there are true size queens but who knows what % they are .
 

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My GF said she had two that were really long (they each said they had 12" but who knows, she didn't measure them) and in each case they just got on and rammed it in until it hurt.

She claims that even seeing a really long one is a turn off because she associates that with pain. (and believe me she is an extra horny woman and we have sex all the time)
 

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Most of the women I've talked to candidly about things have said 6-7" range is best, with those who like "bigger dicks" wanting one that is 7"...so around 1-2" less than what we would likely consider to be big/huge.

Also had one a few years ago that said anything over 5" hit her wall and hurt so was a no-go. Was kinda hoping for a FWB situation with that one, but when we got on the topic of size, it was never going to work between us.
 

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I have a theory that women (even on Reddit) are ashamed to admit that big dicks are better. If they say that, they feel slutty.

I can say for a certainty that as I've gotten bigger, girls have moaned and screamed louder. Of course, this is anecdotal.
 

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It all depends.
Years ago I had a girl that even when I was 6.5, if I rammed it would slam her cervix and she HATED that. I had to be cautious. Certain angles were strictly off limits.
Almost every other girl seemed to love it.
Now, with my increase, my wife is really loving it. Though, she no longer has a cervix so I can't say how much that plays into it (full histerectomy- endometriosis is a bitch... at least she kept the ovaries) as I more and more frequently bottom out.

Not all people are the same. Like, no oral is not a dealbreaker for me. I've only ever gotten maybe 1 good BJ where teeth didn't get involved at some point, so it just doesn't matter that much to me. It makes me question when guys who say they are 6" MEG say they get head... do they literally mean just head or have I only ever encountered small-mouth small-jaw women??

The reality is if you have a 10" dick, there will be women that will adore it and there will be even more who want little to nothing to do with it. If you only encounter the size queens, you will think every woman wants a monster. If you only encounter the don't-you-dare-bottom-out girls, you'll think no woman wants anything over 5.5".

Even if you have had a large number of partners, that is no guarantee of fair sample- just because you flip a coin 10 times does not mean you will get half heads and half tails. 5 of my partners seemed to love my size. 1 did not at all, and 1 turned out to be indifferent to dick in the long run haha
 
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I have a theory that women (even on Reddit) are ashamed to admit that big dicks are better. If they say that, they feel slutty.

I can say for a certainty that as I've gotten bigger, girls have moaned and screamed louder. Of course, this is anecdotal.
Even if that were true - that the bigger the dick is, the better it feels - don't conflate it with what women want from a man and from sex.
 

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Some guys on reddit did a penis size survey.

They posted in the various “dick” related subs and got 800 odd respondents (to date) and compiled the info.

Even with the survey being self-reported off reddit (and including BDP) the results generally support previous surveys in terms of average size, etc.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/attach...50215-new-survey-reddit-penis-size-survey.pdf


There are 2000 responses to the survey. He did a rough update with some observations, expecting to have a good update Dec 24th.

I know I know I know... it is all self reported so it needs to be taken with some skepticism, but I still find it very revealing that with a self reported survey the averages all tend to fall within expected ranges. You'd think there would be a lot false data that would throw the stats off, but not.

It is interesting that he addresses a few stereotypes that pop up here from week to week, and shows that they have little validity:

Since November 24 (when I published the latest update) not so many new people have participated in my survey, unfortunately, so I think there will not be major changes in the current size stats.
But looking more carefully at the details, two new things I would like to say.
1) There is a stereotype that black men have huge penises or still quite above average dicks. While this tends to be slightly true if we take into account the entire population of that ethnicity (African or African ancestry), in general the around 100 black men who took my survey have an average penis length of just 0.15 inches (~0.4 cm) longer than their white counterpart and girths are approximately the same (less than 0.1 thicker for black participants in the survey). I'm positive that, once again, we can establish that ethnicity does not play a key role in a dick size, other genetic factors and perhaps lifestyle may influence it.

2)Over 90% of men were unsatisfied with their penis size and among this men, the majority are aged between 18 and 35 and most of them reported to be still virgins. My conclusion (which can be questionable but reasonable), also based on personal experience, is that the less experiences you have with your (sexual) partner(s), the higher the chances you will be prone to develop a dysmorphia or focus too much on the size.


The wished for size according to my study is 8x6 inches (20.3 x 15.3 cm approximately), but some men with this size have been open about the issues they face during sex, whether it is random sex or with a specific partner (short term or long term partner). Many also reported that they changed their opinion once they statted dating and or having sex.

Several men who wished having a 8x6 dick already pack a very large dick and there is a STRONG correlation with porn addiction.

3)For the Asian participants, the average size is slightly lower than the Western counterpart, but this should not be surprising, because we have in the survey a large majority of white and western men so perhaps as the Asian representation in the survey improves, the results will too. However, for the stats geeks, the results for Asian averages are almost identical in girth average (0.15 inches lower) and 0.3 inches less in length. But overall, as I said, it's still too early to draw these conclusions, we would need a larger sample and less self-selecting places where I can ask for volunteers.
 

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What a refreshing post. About time, and we should all be having this discussion, as the forum is heavily biased in favor of size. The ladies comments of size should be taken literally... why would they care about size, if we really think about it? Do men care about the shape of the vulva or the size of the lips? No, right? There is a reason why evolution styled average to be around 5-6 inches... it's the best overall fit.

The elephant in the room is porn's tentacles. Us guys are visual, so the sight of huge cocks in porn created the false impression that big = manly = sexual. And then we started comparing to self... and felt inadequately short-changed. I bet a host of us are here in an effort to become closer to the porn ideal. But is it really an ideal? Not according to most women...

I believe that the forum could really benefit from the creation of a 'psychological or social aspects' section, where a sticky might include 'Body dismorphia', or 'maladaptive perceptions', or all aspects psychological, to help members grapple with the perceived need to be huge, or the false perception that porn sex is ideal.

PEGym Moderators, what do you think?
 

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What a refreshing post. About time, and we should all be having this discussion, as the forum is heavily biased in favor of size. The ladies comments of size should be taken literally... why would they care about size, if we really think about it? Do men care about the shape of the vulva or the size of the lips? No, right? There is a reason why evolution styled average to be around 5-6 inches... it's the best overall fit.

There had been some other posts related to women's perspectives. All very telling in how size is mainly a male construct. But the posts were lost in a site hiccup a few months past. As they come back up, I try to share.

The elephant in the room is porn's tentacles. Us guys are visual, so the sight of huge cocks in porn created the false impression that big = manly = sexual. And then we started comparing to self... and felt inadequately short-changed. I bet a host of us are here in an effort to become closer to the porn ideal. But is it really an ideal? Not according to most women...

I have always maintained that I want a bigger erection purely for my own selfish whims. I like the feel for my own pleasure.

I believe that the forum could really benefit from the creation of a 'psychological or social aspects' section, where a sticky might include 'Body dismorphia', or 'maladaptive perceptions', or all aspects psychological, to help members grapple with the perceived need to be huge, or the false perception that porn sex is ideal.

PEGym Moderators, what do you think?

I am not sure how it would play out in the forums. Maybe just some dedicated threads in the PE Theory and Science forum?
 

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1) i can't se the survey.pdf - it's saved in the moderator forum, where i don't have access.

2) Females can't judge penis size.
a) They usually estimate wrong. If you say you got X inches, they tend to believe you if you're are off by less than 2 inches.
b) And second - they only estimate non-bonepressed, because they have no clue about the fatpad etc.
 

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Hello incogneeetoe, nice to hear from you again! About the desire for a bigger erection:
I have always maintained that I want a bigger erection purely for my own selfish whims. I like the feel for my own pleasure.
I admit that the same kind of thought is in the back of my mind. I would most definitely welcome AND appreciate a size bonus... sporting a bigger erection is a very pleasing sensory feedback, and to me it would have a liberating effect of making me feel completely at ease and confident to be naked around a future partner. Basically enlargement is purely for us, so as long as we remember that, it won't deviate us from our true PE goal of overall sexual improvement.
 

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My wife appreciates the added girth and overall firmness of the erection, especially when she is on top. I'm now slightly over 8"x 6" and if I'm slow and steady the cervix contact is a good thing, if I piston/pump away I'll get an "ow" and kill her mood. My max boned pressed is larger than the working length while actually having sex, I have a working 7 1/2" while inside her, if I bury it to the hilt she'll get the full 8 inches. She only likes that if I slowly go full depth and then hold it there while performing a strong kegel, this gives her something to squeeze against.
 

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This question was asked:

What makes for a sexy penis?


A number of women answered...

Well I can find something sexy about all penises. Dicks are amazing.



Head:Shaft ratio is probably the single most important factor. Too big or too small a head can be off-putting. Lumpiness or dry-looking skin is gross.

When it looks nice and well kept.


I haven't come across one dick in my life that I didn't deem sexy.
 

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I saw a couple of interesting questions today:

Do Girls like shaved Dicks more than with some hair?
I think it looks weird if a guy is completely shaved. Trimmed but not bare looks best in my opinion. (41 upvotes)

Pubes can feel amazing against the clit. But a shaved one is better for sucking. Pros and cons.
(23)

How would you feel about someone finishing prematurely the first time you hooked up with them?
It depends. If they leave me hanging then I'll never give them the time of day again (this has sadly happened a few times.) If they can be considerate and make sure I get off too then I wouldn't care about him prematurely cumming, it wouldn't even be an issue.(top answer)

Wouldn't be the first time. It's no issue, as long as they're happy to carry on, with other things if they need time to recover
 

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There was a cross-linked post that brought me to a subreddit for escorts. They had a section for questions, and some were very interesting:

Race and penis size?
In your experience, have you seen a correlation between race or ethnicity and penis size?
"None whatsoever, using both personal and work life as data. Big and small and everything in between for all races and ethnicities."

What do you think or how do you feel when your client has small penis?
"If anything, it's better for me.
Big penises are uncomfortable and can be painful for me, and are more challenging for oral, so I don't like them."

"I prefer average size and smaller. That way I know that my cervix won't be smashed into an oblivion. Plus it's easier to preform oral."

"One of the biggest, most intense orgasms I've had came from someone in the thumb sized range.
As a provider who is straight, has orgasms with clients: size is far less interesting to me than ability to get and stay hard."

"I don't think about it at all. Its not the size that matters...
Are you kind, are you a gentleman, There are all kinds of things you can do with a little penis or not."


Are bigger penis usually softer?
Is it true that bigger penis are softer than the smaller ones? A girl I know of said she has had sex with about 2 dozen guys and the bigger penis are generally softer than the smaller ones.

"No, there's no "generalizing" penises. They come in all shapes and sizes and all shapes and sizes are connected to all kinds of different people. In my experience, nerves and medication are the biggest reasons someone may not be able to get completely hard."

"That is not true. Sunni is right: the health of the person they're attached to is a much better predictor of how hard they'll get than what size they are."

"Nope, depends on the person. Some people are literally rock hard when hard, others are a little squishy when hard. Haven't noticed any size correlation."


Is it accurate that an average aroused penis 5.16 inches?
"I'd say yes.
What ethnicity or racial group are bigger or smaller?
Same answer as above. In my own experience, I've seen less variation in Pacific Asian cocks. I don't think my experience disproves the bell curve, it's just one of those things in my life I think is odd.
I know a lot of black guys with average sized dicks that are down on themselves because they don't meet the stereotype. It's a horrible effect of racism."


How small exactly is a small penis?
"Small penises I tend to think are the ‘micropenis’ which are roughy less than an inch to two inches."

"Normal small/average is around three inches. From there to about five to six is about average. Six and above I consider larger."