Silicone harnesses: Alternatives or Way to Restore them?

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I'm using the X4 w/ the silicone harness (noose). I've tried a bunch of methods, but it's the only method that works for me, which is fine. I've been using it just about every day for 3 to 4 hours for about 6 weeks. The first silicone harness stopped "gripping" where you pull it through the grooves on the back of that plastic piece. After about a month, it kept slipping more and more, and I would pop out. So I put that one away and am now using the 2nd harness, but the same thing is starting to happen again (this time sooner). I guess it's the constant stretching (every time I put myself in, adjust it tighter, etc) that is causing the stretching problem. They aren't breaking or cracking - I think they're just stretching and "thinning out" just a little bit, and then they won't hold where you connect it in the underside of the plastic head piece.

I see that you can buy 4 extra harnesses for $40. That's a pretty steep price after what I already paid for this baby.

Is there any way, maybe using heat(?), to restore them so that they'll work again? Or, is anyone using alternatives to these specific straps that are cheaper to buy?

Thanks.

 

[Dangler]

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/20807-slipping-other-issues-solved-me.html

Be sure to remove any body oils, etc, from the noose tubes & the cradle grooves.
Friction is needed so that the silicon tube does not slip.

Also: rhinoguy says "Carr McMaster sells medical grade 0.25" silicone tubing for peanuts. I bought about 20 feet for ten bucks. I also filled mine with clear GE silicone so it acts like cord rather than tubing. Highly recommended, spreads out the pressure better."

 

[rhinoguy]

He's talking about noose slipping on the underside of the extender where they lock in the grooves, not on the penis itself.

There is a solution. You go to the auto parts store or Radio Shack, tell the clerk you are having trouble securing nooses on your penis extender and ask for small quick-ties. Quick ties are those plastic straps that have self locking cogs on one side and they come in all sizes. Take two and attach them in the grooves as shown (see picture in my picture album). The extra material from the quick tie being in the groove serves as a wedge giving the noose a little more tightness so they stay put. It works really well and I know the pain of having those things come loose on you without it. You can trim off the extra quick-tie strap with a small cutter of some kind.

As for the nooses themselves "wearing out" I believe that is a myth. What is really happening is the noose gets greasy in an uneven pattern and they start behaving unpredictably. I will not argue the issue, but I do know that the silicone filled nooses I make work fine every day for months on end. I made two or three of them and have not even had to use the two extras I made. The tubing is a very durable and wearing out is definitely not an issue Time, sun, and over tensioning are the only things that will wear them out best I can tell. They can take a lot of tension being high quality medical grade stuff, so that means there really isn't much that can wear out.

 

[not2big]

I still favor the Velcro strap.

 

[rhinoguy]

Whatever works. I went to the noose because nothing else grabs the damn thing, excuse me, my lengthy emblem of sainthood, firmly. It's just the difference between physiology as far as to what works.

 

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Thanks for the replies. I'll try some of your ideas. I'm not sure, but I do think that the harness is "loosening" up a little bit over time and that that is causing the slippage. When I switched from the first to the second, not only didn't it slip anymore, but it was definitely TIGHTER, with a stronger grip on my head (all other things being exactly the same). I use a flax seed sock most of the time that I'm in the device, so maybe the heat is contributing to the change in the harnesses? It's not grease. It's that it isn't as "taut". Not sure how to explain it. It's like if you keep pulling on an elastic, slowly but surely it loosens up. It's "stretchier".

I certainly don't love the noose, but I tried the other methods (and a few "custom" solutions), and none of them worked except for the noose. I don't use the foam padding that came with the noose. Instead, I use small cotton socks. I cut a small strip, and slip it on just under the glans. It works very well and is much more comfortable than the foam.

My biggest problem is still that my penis is so elastic when soft, that I cant' mount normally. I have to put on the base first, then mount myself in the cradle separately, and finally connect the bottom of the top piece's bars to the top of the base's bars. It's a real drag to have to do this each time I need to get in/out (about every hour or so). I'm constantly micro-tuning, tightening the noose, etc., but I have no other choice. At least I'm getting good traction (almost max.). I've gotten used to it, so it's not as bad now, but it is quite annoying. I think a different design (penismaster?) would have been better for my situation, one where the top bars kind of snap into the cradle from underneath rather than slip into a hole in the cradle.

The other thing I'm considering is getting a vac adapter, but that might introduce other problems. We'll see. For now, I want to stick with this system for 3 months or longer, and then see if there are any results.

 

[rhinoguy]

Extenders are hard to use for some people. I know because I am one of them. I can only use a noose and like you, it needs a lot of adjustment and I can only go so long at a time. My flaccid is very soft and that's the problem. I think it is related to the whole shower versus grower thing, because you see some dicks in the locker rooms that look like they are not very soft. They tend to grow a lot less when erect I understand.

 

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Thanks for those photos rhinoguy. Now I understand how you use those two quick ties. Ingenious.
I'll try washing the harnesses w/ soap (or would you recommend something else?) to see if maybe it really is grease.

The upper bar in the 3rd pick looks different than my bars (it looks longer than my longest bar, and appears to not have threads?) Did you make that one yourself?

I'm using a 3" bar (the longest bar that came with my x4) + 1/2" bar. But I've just started using the 3" + 1" also, which hopefully will result in fewer (or no) micro adjustments. But of course it's even more difficult ot get into because of that middle bar connection (instead of at the top). I have to start w/ the 1/2" one until I stretch out for awhile, micro-tuned at max. Then change 'em up.

I might order the heavier tension springs, because I can handle greater tension but can't add more bars (for the time being). Do you know of a cheaper alternative for the springs?

 

[rhinoguy]

I make my own bars because I can't leave something that important to a mail order racket in Canada. I put up a post a few days ago telling how to make them and I use aluminum which is WAY lighter.

As for the silicone cleaning, dish soap would work but I just wipe them with a cloth and I always dust with talcum powder which seems to absorb grease and sweat. Big part of strapping in each time is to dust the rig with talc. It's touchy though- too much and you get talc slip which you do not want. It has to be a thin film of talc.

Why don't you post a few pictures of your dick and the extender you use. A picture is a good way to get better help. Don't be shy. No one cares how your totem pole of religiosity looks or even knows who it is attached to.

As for springs, I have not maxed out mine and see no need to get stronger ones. I simply turn the verniers until the traction is good, no need to think harder than that. Actually, I always turn the screws until they are between the 2nd and third lines but I think the lines are total nonsense, they do not correlate with anything.

A couple of months ago I carefully tested my X4 extender for load and found the loads are way off what they said they are. That whole thing about this ring means you have 600g load and so on is bunk in my opinion and I tested my rig to make sure. You just want the best mix of traction and comfort you can handle and loading is simply not that exact a science in my opinion.

 

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Just wanted to provide an update, to help others who might be having the same problem.

I went ahead with rhinoguy's plastic tie idea - and it's working great! Just make sure the plastic ties aren't too wide, because there isn't much clearance. The shorter the tie, the narrower the width. I used 4" ties, bought at the local h/w store. They fit perfectly.

Thanks rhinoguy. The pictures were very helpful.

 

[rhinoguy]

Well glad to hear it but actually it is an idea I got from the old Fast Size forum. Someone there came up with it years ago and so many users said that it works I tried it and voila, it does.