Never Let It Turtle?

[Giveu8in]

I consider turtling the kryptonite of PE gains. I follow monty on thunders theory which is basically that turtling/healing in a shortened state is the main reason gains dry up. Hence I wear 2lbs+ of golf weights any chance I get, usually 4hrs + a day minimum. I plan on upping this weight shortly.

I think we might be on to something here.
Only time will tell.

 

[Lord Harris]

I've been reading about PE for 4 years plus, and it's the soundest theory I've come across man. The guys who make the most consistent/biggest gains seem to be the ones who are doing some sort of PE all the time, activley or passivley.

Either in the case of someone like bib who was hanging hours and hours a day, or memento the mod on thunders who was doing a 2 x day v stretch/jelq split and said he got 2" in 6 months. Monty got 2" in a year wearing heavy golf weights and heavy hanging. My point being is that their dicks were never allowed to into a state of shortened healing for very long.

Then you have guys who make great gains for like 6 months, then everything comes to a standstill if they don't use an ADS etc.

Also, I have read about people wearing TLC tugger gaining an inch, without PE. Obviously over a long period of time.

 

[not2big]

I have been using my VacExtender cap and 4 inch silicone sleeve as an ADS with either a 10 oz or 2 lb fishing weight attached (depending on condition of glans after extending or pumping) for about 5 to 7 hours a day for past three months or so. After 2 or 3 hours after removing the ADS, I pretty much turtle back up again. However, I am hoping the extended stretch time will aid in healing while in the stretched state.

I have a small dick which I believe is more conducive to turtling than a bigger, heavier dick which, in effect, is naturally weighted down.

 

[mikeytt]

Are any of you guys who are wrapping uncut?? I tried wrapping with some bandage when erect, but when my erection went down my penis just retracted back inside the foreskin so the wrapping seemed not to work.

 

[Giveu8in]

Are any of you guys who are wrapping uncut?? I tried wrapping with some bandage when erect, but when my erection went down my penis just retracted back inside the foreskin so the wrapping seemed not to work.

I'm uncut but it don't work when you try and wrap with an erection, as there's no way of keeping the blood in, I allways do 1min of stretching so when I do wrap I'm only at 10% erect.

https://www.pegym.com/penis-exercise/traction-wrapping-101

 

[Koh]

I would just do a simple inner tube like angus

 

[Lord Harris]

Yeah I need to start traction wrapping when I work out. My dick turtles like crazy then.

Coban tape is good.

 

[TurtleProblems]

Overtraining will cause it quicker than anything, if it happens it happens. Next time don't overtrain. Notice you tend to have the best sessions when your horny and flushed flaccid, you're well hydrated and not over trained. Never force yourself to follow a routine if your not in the mood or turtled, it'll just be counterproductive. It's really just a simple matter of taking note of the pi's is all.

 

[growin]

Hello rbi99
Was just reading about TURTLING, and saw that you said you jelq your testicles.
Please direct me to the information and actions to do that - I'm interested in getting my testicles to hang lower and to have a bigger/lower sac.
Hope you can find the time to respond to me on this.
Thanks
Growin

 

[SuperDude]

I noticed that applying vitamin E oil helps for a better hang.

 

[Drummer19]

Can someone post a link to a thread that explains why turtling is so bad? I still don't get it... I always thought it was natural?

 

[XitemeM]

I think, especially in the beginning (maybe not with advanced PE like hanging) that turtling is a sign of over training. If you're hitting the goldilocks zone with your stretches and jelq intensity you should find your penis has a fuller hanging flaccid. A fuller flaccid may also have some benefits in actual growth because the penis is in a larger than usual state during the healing process after a session. Turtling after a session may result in not getting the most benefit out of the exercises because the microscopic gaps created from exercises are squashed up by the surrounding tissue and the bodies natural healing process will not as readily fill those spaces in with new material. Just theoretical but it helps me to think of it in this way.

I think growth would still be possible with chronic turtling, but I would bet it would be slower compared to "never turtle". Turtling may be an unavoidable natural reaction when it comes to advanced PE like hanging, but in that case traction wrapping or what-a-grip or extending even could be used.

Some supporting threads might be https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory-science-forum/31950-splitting-cells-permanent-growth.html and Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to Help Penis Growth! . I'm sure there must be more..

 

[Drummer19]

Does turtling mean your balls retracting or your penis shrinking into itself? My flaccid hangs more than ever and never shrinks in itself. But my testicles do rise when im cold, but that's normal. They don't retract any MORE then normal though. What do you think?

 

[TJM19]

I am pretty sure it is when the penis itself shrinks significantly and tightens up in a way. Very discouraging.

 

[Drummer19]

If that's true I think I am good!

 

[Lazy 8]

Big Al has a post somewhere on the gym that explains turtling in terms of our genetic heritage. Guys whose ancestry is from northern zones of the world are more likely to have dicks that turtle than guys whose ancestors are from southern latitudes. Having a dick that turtles is really protective if your roots are in those colder climates. It's also basically the difference between showers and growers. Every guy would like a good flaccid hang but it may not be in our genes to have it that way.