Thanks for the information and support guys. Well I should be a bit longer, cause my penis wassnt fully erect as you notice hanging a little bit. Aplus I rested it on top, I hear your suppose to press it up to the pubic bone. Also I'm a little over 20 percent bodyfat. I weigh 210 so maybe losing weight and some sort of routine would suffice. I'm on day two of the jp90 routine. I'm walking around with a longer flaccid already. I guess ideally girth is my goal because, with a little fat loss and correct measurements achieve 8+ wouldn't be too hard. But I want my girth 6+. So I guess my goals are girth. So if anyone could give me an ideal addition for the jp90 and projection dates to get the 6+ girth. Also, someone mention pumping? Is pumping permanent. I think I'm pretty blessed with my size. But thanks again guys