Men vs women idea on what they consider a big unit

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But that would mean the average guys aren't confident?
 

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Doesn't make me wonder. Makes me realize that most guys are lying jagoffs. I know SO many guys who say they are huge all the time. Fuck my current girlfriend hooked up with one that always says it, actually two of them. She said one was small the other was about average. Dudes lie. Not the math, the men.

I believe those guys sizes were based on her (Islander) observations not what the guys told her. She even said she measured one. For what purpose I don't know since she has said size doesn't matter. Maybe it was just to satisfy a curiosity?
 

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But that would mean the average guys aren't confident?

Nah, she said her friend is average and a player by nature. It's confidence, not really anything else. What my partner once told me is similar to what islander has said once or twice. the insides swell up but elongate. So while yea she gets deeper, she also gets "tighter" when she's aroused. The best thing to do is get your girl super aroused and that'll make her feel all of you even more than she does already.

It's not size, it's arousal level. Just like we get harder, wider and Longer when we get erect, when a woman gets "erect" she gets wetter, deeper and tighter.

I believe those guys sizes were based on her (Islander) observations not what the guys told her. She even said she measured one. For what purpose I don't know since she has said size doesn't matter. Maybe it was just to satisfy a curiosity?

You are correct, I remember her saying she had a standardized piece of something that she used as comparison and came up with the sizing based on that.
 

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My wife and I read the "Woman's Perspective" forum together (I keep no secrets from her), as she finds not only the questions interesting, but she likes seeing how us guys feel about things. She initially didn't say anything about this thread (maybe she viewed it as "touchy" territory?)

Later that night, she asked me if I wanted to know what she thought about this thread. Our conversation proved several things to me (which most people already know)
1- Women are terrible at judging size (guys are too)
2- Women don't think about size that much or talk about it with their friends
3- Women that do consider size don't think about size in inches - its more a relative thing

Let the hilarity begin!

Wife: "Do you want to know what I think about that thread earlier about what is big?"
me: "sure"

(at this point we had some conversation on statistical averages, with the average being about 5.7 x 4.8 or so...)

wife: "you are going to laugh, but I thought the average was 4 inches" (she then shows me her pinky and says) "Isn't this about an inch?"
(her pinky is a little over 2 inches)

me: "What size did you think I was when I first started PE?" (I asked because when I first told her about PE and the fact that I measured, the first thing she asked was how big it was)
wife "I thought you were about 4 and a half"
conclusion: While she was off on units of measure, the overall was about true. My starting stats of 6.675 length put me about an inch over average, which would be about half of her pinky. She also added in that she always thought I was pretty well endowed (this was nice to hear). As another note, I once had a girl tell me she thought I was 9 inches (though I don't know how!)
I also asked her to please not tell her friends about my well endowed 4.5"! haha

me: "so to answer the thread, what length to you consider "big"?"
She showed me a guestimate with her hands, which I then measured at 8 inches. (yeah, pretty inaccurate, but we were having fun with this)

Me:"Ok, now what do you consider big for girth?"
wife: "Whats average again?"
me:"Just under 5"
wife:"hmmm.... seven?"
me: (laughing histerically)
We got out a tailor's tape and I measured her wrist at 6"
wife: "Holy fuck! 6 inches is way too big. You are not going for 6 inches!"
She then made an "OK" sign with her fingers and showed me what appeared to be about 5.25"- 5.5" of girth.

Her answer: 8" x 5.25" or so is big - but this is considering her guestimating and me measuring afterwards

The bad news? I don't quite measure up yet to those numbers - I don't do official measurements until next week, but I've already seen 7.25 x 5.2 taking little peeks with my ruler and tape. This doesn't bother me one bit though, statistically I'm in the top 3-4 percent which I could never complain about.

The good news? After being with my wife for nearly 7 years, this is the first time she has ever given me any kind of feedback on my penis - good or bad. To be honest, I was beginning to get a complex about it, as her silence lead me to believe that there was absolutely nothing good at all to say about my penis (what isn't said can be more damaging to a man's ego than what is said...IMO). While most of the conversation was quite funny, there were parts that made me feel much better about myself. I still find it funny that her guessed version of "big" would be the 99.8th percentile on the size chart (about 1 in 700 men), but it does go to show how terrible people are with sizes.


Another funny thing is that she also agreed that if I were to tell her I was 8 inches or 9 inches, she would have believed me - and I'm sure this is very common for women for them to be told a certain measurement and them believe it. I think this also skews what measurement people perceive as average.

Interesting stuff!
 
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Don: That is great!! I dont expect new members to go back and read posts of other members so many of you dont "know" me but I have been very clear on the fact that I am in my 40's and until I found this site had no idea women comment on peen size, want to know peen size, guys worry about peen size etc.. I, up until that time, had only one partner in my life and he never gave me vibes that I should be concerned with his size, never asked me if I felt full, none of that stuff. I also had no idea how long water bottles were, my forearm was, the measurement of my hand, how much I could stuff in my mouth etc.. lmao
The only reason I measured my FWB was because someone here asked me how big he was. I had no idea and thought hey let me see. I had asked him and he did not know (or was not going to tell me) so what I did was used a piece of black lace (non elastic) that I have a roll of. I use it around my neck and ankles sometimes when I "dress up". Anyway I measured him but not when he was 100% erect because I cant get to it when he is like that he is usually inside me lol He is MUCH older than me so his EQ is not like a 20 something year old man.... Anyway once I found out the size I still didn't say OMG OMG. I still had no idea what that really meant.

As I have said and has been echoed by the few women we have here, we are attracted to the man for our reasons. None of our posts are about one night stands. We are talking about men we care about or love and our in a relationship of some sort with.

Snitch got me on a night where I decided to answer his questions. I could have very well just PM'd him and asked for privacy and he would have respected my wishes.

I suppose if I was a woman that had 50 partners or slept around or was not married for 25 years before being single my size experience would be much more varied. But you have to understand that I am a confident woman, business owner, successful person in personal and business life so although I may have had many men make advances I never saw their peens or acted on it. I guess as one poster said I have been "lucky". But I dont see it as luck. It was just a coincidence (sp)
As SBE mentioned, the friend/bachelor I mentioned is average in size per your scale and is a successful business man and one heck of a person/great guy.
I have not had the situation arise where I have fell in love with a man, had sex and been disappointed because of size and dumped him. I doubt that will ever happen with someone like me because I am not like that. I am about the YOU the person and how I feel with and around you and you around me etc...
Someone asked me if my FWB was not big would I have kept the FWB part of our friendship going. I say yes to that question.

As far as surveys etc... its all scewed. My bra size changes with every 4 pounds I flucuate in weight. I am a size 12 in one maker, 14 in another etc... So sure its a waste of time to focus in on a few surveys when deep down we all know how different everything and everyone is.

For the record a man with a hard on while with a woman is different than one in a survey being measured. How and why we would give any credit to these surveys is beyond me.

Anyway I hope my bother of answering your questions helped in some way. I respectfully request that I not be asked anymore questions about this.

Sincerely,
Not a morning person :)
 
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I'm referring to me, but I think you and I are around the same size. That post was more a "what I'm thinking" and "this subject is a dead horse" post.

The fact of the matter is, you will be big to some and little to others - because there ARE statistically smaller and larger guys than you and I. SO, either you get over it or not - one absolutely will set you free and the other will absolutely make you compoundingly more miserable.

Yes there are statistically smaller, but to girls I or you will never be big.
 

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Not true,you will never be big to yourselves. That does not mean you will never be big.
 

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Not true,you will never be big to yourselves. That does not mean you will never be big.

Agreed. for some reason, we are our own worst enemies when it comes to this. Most of the time it's not even that serious to women :(...
 

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I believe those guys sizes were based on her (Islander) observations not what the guys told her. She even said she measured one. For what purpose I don't know since she has said size doesn't matter. Maybe it was just to satisfy a curiosity?
What I mean is...
All of these guys who say they are big are not. People exaggerate all the time because they think it matters to women when it does not. Makes guys who don't realize this feel tiny.
 

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BigO: Dude. The only way I will ever be big to a girl is if she had a bunch of guys who were terribly small, which would not happen. And I won't gain so I won't ever be big. Over a year and I've lost girth. That's it. Measured last night and I'm 4.75 NBP and 5.75 BP, just like I started. And girth down from 5 to about 4.75.

SBE: Good point for the overall. Especially guys who are already over 7 and over 5 who think they are small. But guys whose NBP are sub 5 and girth sub 5? No, we are small it's not some bullshit mental thing.


NP: Oh yea every dude walking around says he is 8, sure lol. And the whole it doesn't matter to girls, that's bullshit. Watch those guys get laid all the time because girls want to find out.
 

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NP: Oh yea every dude walking around says he is 8, sure lol. And the whole it doesn't matter to girls, that's bullshit. Watch those guys get laid all the time because girls want to find out.
Not once have I seen or heard about this happening. It does NOT matter to girls. Even girls I have been with tell me it does not matter. Girls I haven't say the same. They all say it really doesn't matter at all.
 

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Snitch got me on a night where I decided to answer his questions. I could have very well just PM'd him and asked for privacy and he would have respected my wishes.

Absolutely true. I tried to actually PM you before I posted to make it private but the system said you don't accept PM's? Never seen that before.
 

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Not once have I seen or heard about this happening. It does NOT matter to girls. Even girls I have been with tell me it does not matter. Girls I haven't say the same. They all say it really doesn't matter at all.

I think Aimok has a house on the internet, and he is looking too much out the window.

Some girls like it big, most don`t, from my experience. Why do we obsess so damn much over this. I hope most guys in the real world are a bit more relaxed.
 

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BigO: Dude. The only way I will ever be big to a girl is if she had a bunch of guys who were terribly small, which would not happen. And I won't gain so I won't ever be big. Over a year and I've lost girth. That's it. Measured last night and I'm 4.75 NBP and 5.75 BP, just like I started. And girth down from 5 to about 4.75.

SBE: Good point for the overall. Especially guys who are already over 7 and over 5 who think they are small. But guys whose NBP are sub 5 and girth sub 5? No, we are small it's not some bullshit mental thing.


NP: Oh yea every dude walking around says he is 8, sure lol. And the whole it doesn't matter to girls, that's bullshit. Watch those guys get laid all the time because girls want to find out.



as far as losing girth...
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Have you tried to talk to someone about your techniques? what are you doing and are you over training?

You'd be better served researching a little more and getting some help. Help yourself a little too. work on your mental state too :)
 

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I think Aimok has a house on the internet, and he is looking too much out the window.Some girls like it big, most don`t, from my experience. Why do we obsess so damn much over this. I hope most guys in the real world are a bit more relaxed.
The only one that I know of that has said something about size being important was a dirty, whorish, slut who has fucked/sucked like 40 or 50 dudes and she is all of 19 years old. She is also really, really stupid and gets by on looks (which I think are icky, but personality matters to me).
 

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The only one that I know of that has said something about size being important was a dirty, whorish, slut who has fucked/sucked like 40 or 50 dudes and she is all of 19 years old. She is also really, really stupid and gets by on looks (which I think are icky, but personality matters to me).

Personality does matter, she would probably be pretty if her attitude wasnt so damn ugly
 

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Personality does matter, she would probably be pretty if her attitude wasnt so damn ugly
I don't find her attractive anyway, but yeah. If she were a nice, decent human being that actually listened to me (her boss) I might not despise her existence and might actually find her pretty. Lol.
 

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The only one that I know of that has said something about size being important was a dirty, whorish, slut who has fucked/sucked like 40 or 50 dudes and she is all of 19 years old. She is also really, really stupid and gets by on looks (which I think are icky, but personality matters to me).

Don`t be like that! Girls can like big dicks without being a whore, just like a guy can like big breasts without being a douchebag.
Some girls like muscles, some like manly hairy men, some like prettyboys, some like big dicks and that is just the way it is. From my experience, most don`t care but some do, and that is ok.