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Yeah what mredger said above. You think all these people come on here just for the crack? Check out the pictures and success stories. They are there for a reason.

When I'm with a girl I don't ask about over lads and how there dicks are, that shows insecurity and lack of confidence. Women thrive on confidence, every female wants to be with the alfa male, not someone who's insecure. Girls want someone who will protect them (alfa male) if your insure about yourself that's not alfa and girls smell that a mile away.

ask no questions, plow away! I'm just above average and never had a single complaint. Confidence is the key
 

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the more money u will give her the more she will tell u (ooh thats really BIG)
 

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The old people here have big dicks ( and some lucky .......... like Toad and GTO etc )
 

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Before you resume PE, start off by changing your perspective from negative to POSITIVE. Your whole post is nothing but a rant and complaint about how things are not working out for you. PE does work. Stay committed to it. Take days off in between and get back to it again. You will see results in no time.
 

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Just start JP90! Every person on here at one time thought "there's no way this will work" but tried anyway. I started when I already knew I was pretty big (6.8x5.25) and have gained enough that I'm not stopping any time soon (currently 7.375x5.5). This is no joke. Just learn all you can and start a CONSISTENT routine. I didn't see any real gains until about 4 months in so you have to keep at it. Six months will come around and you'll look down and realize "wow, it really does work". Look at PE like you were let in on a well-kept secret and are lucky. Then realize that it needs to become a habit and a fascination in order to work. Once you do that then you will be successful. You just have to fully commit.

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Hello everyone, I'm someone who is very discontent with the 6.0 inches that I have, to the point where if I don't do something about it, I'm going to lose my mind. Girl after girl I get to know and have a sexual relationship with ends up telling me the same things: they got their best sex from someone with a bigger dick, if they went home with a guy from the bar, they would be disappointed if his dick was any less than 7 inches... ect. And I just can't live this way anymore. I will never find that girl that prefers a 6 incher over something larger, it's just not going to happen. And I'm losing great girls in the process that I could be dating, but can't because I know they are settling for a sub-par dick.

I've known about penis enlargement via penile "exercises" and PEgym for a while now, and even partook in some jelqueing and stretching for about 2 months or so daily, but did NOT see any results. I wasted my time completely. Yet, I can't get over the fact that there are users on here that post "beginning measurements" and "current measurements" and that there is this progress that they have gained. What I want to do is simply mark it off as biased measurements as time goes on, perhaps pressing the ruler harder and harder into the pubic bone to get those extra tenths of an inch or what have you. But the curiosity is still there, and if the opportunity is really there for me, I'm going to take it, no matter the amount of work required.

What I need is this proof that permanent gains have been made from taking advice from this site, but I'm not sure how this can be done. Before and after pictures maybe? Ruler in pics as well?

You want to try it then try it, no one needs to prove sh*t to you. If that is not the answer you are looking for then too bad. Try it or go away and say you never made an effort, kids now a days.
 

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If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around, does it still make a sound? Who gives a sh*t?!..but I would like to hear the sound of my dick thudding on the floor in the future and I am not interested in convincing anyone, just sharing knowledge .
 

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How come girl after girl tells you the same story? Please, please, please tell me that you're not actually asking these girls those questions.

I've never known a girl to ask if she was the tightest I've had, or if I've received better oral before, or if I've been with girls who were plain better in the sack. There are very good reasons why these questions should be kept unuttered. If a girl brings up your size without being asked, just tell her to STFU and do her god-damn kegels. Seriously.

If you still can't live without a bigger dick, just save up the money and do the operation. It works and that's proven. PE is not scientifically proven, so do it or don't. Easy as that.
 

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Dude, mine is less than 5" erect. You wish you had problems.

Read some Stoicism and Frankel's "Man's search for meaning". Beacause I can assure you, the sh*t in your head is 2 things:

1. sh*t
2. In YOUR head

Bitching about 6"... Seriously? I'll be lucky to ever HAVE 6". And no, it's pencil thin, so I can't lean back on girth either.
 
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Hello everyone, I'm someone who is very discontent with the 6.0 inches that I have, to the point where if I don't do something about it, I'm going to lose my mind. Girl after girl I get to know and have a sexual relationship with ends up telling me the same things: they got their best sex from someone with a bigger dick, if they went home with a guy from the bar, they would be disappointed if his dick was any less than 7 inches... ect. And I just can't live this way anymore. I will never find that girl that prefers a 6 incher over something larger, it's just not going to happen. And I'm losing great girls in the process that I could be dating, but can't because I know they are settling for a sub-par dick.

I've known about penis enlargement via penile "exercises" and PEgym for a while now, and even partook in some jelqueing and stretching for about 2 months or so daily, but did NOT see any results. I wasted my time completely. Yet, I can't get over the fact that there are users on here that post "beginning measurements" and "current measurements" and that there is this progress that they have gained. What I want to do is simply mark it off as biased measurements as time goes on, perhaps pressing the ruler harder and harder into the pubic bone to get those extra tenths of an inch or what have you. But the curiosity is still there, and if the opportunity is really there for me, I'm going to take it, no matter the amount of work required.

What I need is this proof that permanent gains have been made from taking advice from this site, but I'm not sure how this can be done. Before and after pictures maybe? Ruler in pics as well?

Hey man , you are not that small , maybe good average but definitely not small. A couple of things come to mind from reading this post.

1. The ladies that told you are small are possibly telling so as they motivated by some reason other than real truth. Could it be that you somehow rubbed them up the wrong way (excuse the pun) , by something you did or said and used your perceived weakness , as for many men, penis size, and then let hear it. If you are the type that shows insecurity about your penis , they will notice it , no qsts asked ok . Now, add to that a situation where you might have been insensitive or hurtful in some way and be prepared to expect the worst . It might not even be a isolated ill timed remark to her, but quite possibly your attitude in general. Women do not like rude, obnoxious asshole types. Review and fix your attitude toward them where necessary and you might be surprised at how warm and receptive they can be.
I recall a "tiniest penis contest" on Howard Stern from many years ago. Some of the guys got on air and talked about how women they had been with all said they were too small or in some cases saw the "tiny" penis and went goodbye nice knowing you. What did these guys all have in common other than penis issues?. They were all obnoxious loud irritating types. Not saying you are mind, but obviously insecurities had taken the better of them. Work on your attitude as well as your penis going forward.

2. Relax. You mention "pushing the ruler harder and harder", to me that indicates an overzealous impatient approach that will yield no good results in PE. Here is all about patience and intuitive understanding as to how to incorporate PE into your normal life schedule. Lets be clear ok, your penis can be damaged very easily through bad PE methods and techniques . Many of which are derived from carelessness and lack of patience in general.

Now is the time to sit back and reflect, firstly on what you are like as a person. Next, can you get the correct mindset together to embark on the long road to success in PE. When you have figured out both , many of your insecurities may very well vanish forever.
 

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Anyone that starts out with demands instead of asking for help is a real tool. I bet the reason the women left you is because you are the same person that asks about PE the way you do. Like it is our job to care if you are wasting your time or not. You don't need PE, you need manners.

Why don't you invest some time and read, read, read. Spend a month reading on this site before you demand we show you proof that PE works. It worked for me and now I am at the coveted 7". I will keep going till I hit 8", preferably NBPEL.
 
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Logically, there's no way we could all be paid to sit on this site all day with fake signatures, fake theories, etc.

When I found this site I read for about 3 hours and I decided it was something that I had to do. I spend the next week learning and on the first of the next month I jumped in. I saw results in my first month but by then I had learned by then that regardless of your results, you keep going.

Commit to a month and find out for yourself.

If you're serious and see no reason to stop, keep going for another 2 months.

At least you will be conditioned and if you saw results, great. If not, come back and get some help.

More importantly, you need to realize that no one here is trying to sell you something. I strongly recommend that you don't buy anything in your first 3 months.

The only things I have bought so far are lube, tenths ruler and a $10 clamping device. Funny enough I payed $16 for the ruler but whatever. :p

I found a page on Thunders that had tons of compiled picture proof but I can't seem to find it...?

Believe what you want man.
 

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I need to apologize for sounding demanding when no proof was ever owed to me. And I wish to clear a few things up. In my initial post, I made it sound like literally EVERY girl I've been with has had better lovers that were coincidentally bigger. This is not true, I've just happened to have run into a few recently and it has bothered me quite a bit. Second, I am not bad in bed. When I started having sex, sure, I was bad. But I had a 4 year relationship with an older woman starting when I was 20, and she laid it all out for me, both my oral and coitus skills were quite lacking. Over time, with constructive criticism, practice, trial and error, and after finding out truly what sex can really be, I acquired a skill set, and I know what I am doing. And when my ex and I had a bad breakup, she did not come after me emotionally and say things to the effect that she lied about how good I was in bed. Trollers who keep claiming that I must be bad seem to forget me saying that every partner I've had since the previously mentioned ex notes, without me asking, that my oral is the best they've had. So please, I want to hear no more of that. It's just trolling to me since I know it's not true.
And I'm never an asshole to women; one of the things that women like about me is how I treat them and make them feel. The current girl I'm with has made this point many times.
With all of that being said, I want to apologize once more for coming off as demanding things of this forum when none were really owed to me to begin with. I have done quite a bit of research in the days following my initial post of progress stories and success stories and the like, and will start JP's 90 day beginner routine tomorrow. I will likely keep you guys updated as to my month-to-month progress and questions I might have along the way.
 

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Nice post, we will do the best we can for you. I would start with a beginners routine, work it for 90 days and see what happens.
 

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Ok guys, I appreciate the posts, but it has really come to the point where I need to change my penis, and not my outlook.

This may not be what you want to hear, but if what you say is true about your experiences your need for validation from your partners about your size belies deeper issues. You also seem to attract the types of personalities that do not seem to have your best interests at heart- that's something else that you should reflect on.

What I have experienced is the truth. I would really like some advice on what I am to do about making my penis longer and with more girth.

There's no substitute for personal experience. That being said, the following posts should help your research:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/3569-penis-enlargement-proof-pics.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/gym/2995-non-believers-pe-forum.html


https://www.pegym.com/forums/beginners-forum/60325-what-convinced-you-pe-could-work.html

https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/2770-wheres-proof-working-guys.html
 
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Alright, so I've been doing the JP 90 day beginner routine for two days now, and wow... this is very, very tedious stuff. It takes me about 50-55 mins to complete the whole routine, is that about how long it should take? Also, with counting down the days, do I count EVERY day, or every day that I've gone through a routine? For example, after a whole week of 5 days on and two days off, does that equal 7 days toward the 90 or 5?
Also, I've been having trouble keeping the erection down during the stretching part of the routine, does anyone have any strategies or suggestions for how to get an erection to go away quickly so I can do these stretches with the recommended 30% erection?
Also, is it recommended that I refrain from masturbation during my work out days, or does it really matter? What is the cap limit on masturbation per week?
 

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Hey, I'm new to this too and started JP90 a week and a half ago. had the same troubles with constantly getting erect and it took at least an hour to get through it with all the waiting for my dick to get soft. Not sure when it stopped but now i can get through it in 30 mins or less and have to actually try in order to get blood to flow. So i think it just takes a few times for your dick to get used to it and it doesn't take too long for that to happen.

Also it is boring and tedious, i put a movie or tv show on while i do it and the time flys by.
 

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During the jelqing, my erection really tends to stay right at the 60% where I want it to be. I don't know why I can't keep it down to 30 during the stretching portion.