(Help) Phalloson vs Penimaster Pro

[smitty2590]

Ok guys i'm sure this has been on here a time or two but I am a new user and would really like more then one persons input. These are the two devices I am considering my question is which to choose over the other and why? In ok i used a extender for a few months on and off but ultimately quit using because it was so uncomfortable and with that being said I have read both of these are basically Cadillac of the extender world. I was leaning towards the Pmp because of the versatility on the unit but they both have pros in my eyes. Pf i like that the pump is built in, its see through so you can observe your member. The pmp is same type of connection and even has belt system but also comes with the bar extender also which I like the choice but am not sure if i honestly need it if the belt system is comfortable enough. So please help a newbie out with the correct choice just honestly don't want to spend my money in the wrong place as I just returned the size genetics bf ever getting it after reading on here for a few days. Also I like the fact the Pf is fda approved lol just because it gives me a little more ease of mind knowing its for sure safe for my member.(also side note ive never used any type of vacuum system before so idk if one requires a tolerance to it over the other) edit: i should also add that i will more then likely only use the belt systems with either because my last encounter with rod systems i would walk like a idiot when wearing it and such. This is why im currently leaning towards the Pf but I can be swayed possibly.

 

[jayjefferson33]

Ok guys i'm sure this has been on here a time or two but I am a new user and would really like more then one persons input. These are the two devices I am considering my question is which to choose over the other and why? In ok i used a extender for a few months on and off but ultimately quit using because it was so uncomfortable and with that being said I have read both of these are basically Cadillac of the extender world. I was leaning towards the Pmp because of the versatility on the unit but they both have pros in my eyes. Pf i like that the pump is built in, its see through so you can observe your member. The pmp is same type of connection and even has belt system but also comes with the bar extender also which I like the choice but am not sure if i honestly need it if the belt system is comfortable enough. So please help a newbie out with the correct choice just honestly don't want to spend my money in the wrong place as I just returned the size genetics bf ever getting it after reading on here for a few days. Also I like the fact the Pf is fda approved lol just because it gives me a little more ease of mind knowing its for sure safe for my member.(also side note ive never used any type of vacuum system before so idk if one requires a tolerance to it over the other) edit: i should also add that i will more then likely only use the belt systems with either because my last encounter with rod systems i would walk like a idiot when wearing it and such. This is why im currently leaning towards the Pf but I can be swayed possibly.

i thought you already made the decision yesterday and wanted to buy PMP?

 

[jayjefferson33]

i did alot of research and every person who has both PF and PMP has recommended PMP fr comfort,build,quality,ease of use and results
some people mentioned that PE is more like an anti turtling device for them and they didnt gain anything with it and noone said the same about PMP
anyone who has used both has said PMP is by far a better device

about buying new latex parts for PMP and condoms sleeves for PF in the future can be replaced by party balloons which is also made of latex and very comfortable and super cheap! and is available in supermarket or ebay

i read on PMP website that this device can also be used for longer hours continuously once your penis is conditioned, it can also be used at night during sleep once you get accustomed to wearing it 8 hrs a day

you will need to buy a hose seperately when ordering the PMP but you get 15% discount which is around 40 euros to spend on parts as a discount if you buy through pegym link. The hose is small and is very easy to carry around from what i have heard

with PMP you will need to carry around the small hose and cream and with PF you will have to carry around the powder


Also sizegenetics is nooze type extender it doesnt create any vacuum. while PMP creates vacuum around your glans, two totally different devices thats why PMP is alot more comfortable even when you use rod extender compared to sizegenetics extender.

 

[jayjefferson33]

just watch this video man and you will know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHX3m2vzffA

 

[jayjefferson33]

and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZc6XeAgXc - PMP
( small hose can be used instead of ball to pump just so you know )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPAK97HUHMs - PF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay61ApV212c

 

[jayjefferson33]

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOC1u0gyZDU - unboxing and review

 

[smitty2590]

Jayjefferson I had thought I made up my mind also but I read forum after fours lst night I actually came across a few comparing the two that was opposite opinions of what me and you have recently been told. They were people who started with pmp and switched over to pf and praised the pf over the pmp. My thing at this point I've used a bar extender and it's not how you stay that I don't like it's how I walk lol. Get a cup out your pantry press it over you shave and onto your pelvic floor then try and walk around normal. It's not possible so therefore I'm basically saying I want to try but a belt system and if we are just comparing belts the pmp has nothing to show what tension you are pulling and no padded Cushing ring for pulling in side directions. Also another big thing I'm looking at which may sound dumb but I like how I can see my dick with the pf because when I used regular extended dick would loose circulation and go numb and turn colors which made me remove well I can see what's going on with the pf but not with the pmp. Also I have read they both can still make your head turn purple if you don't have the correct vaccum so these are the things that are really making me question which is a better fit for me. Like you had stated in other post I want somethjng versatile that I can wear easily, remove and put on easily, and comfortable. So before I pull the trigger on one bs the other I was just trying to get more then 2 people's opinions as that is all I've been able to get comment on my post. At this point I'm not in a extreme rush I'm still doing the Jp90 I just want to someone to legit talk to me that's used them both for a bit with knowing all of my concerns and experiences and which would suit me better

 

[jayjefferson33]

Jayjefferson I had thought I made up my mind also but I read forum after fours lst night I actually came across a few comparing the two that was opposite opinions of what me and you have recently been told. They were people who started with pmp and switched over to pf and praised the pf over the pmp. My thing at this point I've used a bar extender and it's not how you stay that I don't like it's how I walk lol. Get a cup out your pantry press it over you shave and onto your pelvic floor then try and walk around normal. It's not possible so therefore I'm basically saying I want to try but a belt system and if we are just comparing belts the pmp has nothing to show what tension you are pulling and no padded Cushing ring for pulling in side directions. Also another big thing I'm looking at which may sound dumb but I like how I can see my dick with the pf because when I used regular extended dick would loose circulation and go numb and turn colors which made me remove well I can see what's going on with the pf but not with the pmp. Also I have read they both can still make your head turn purple if you don't have the correct vaccum so these are the things that are really making me question which is a better fit for me. Like you had stated in other post I want somethjng versatile that I can wear easily, remove and put on easily, and comfortable. So before I pull the trigger on one bs the other I was just trying to get more then 2 people's opinions as that is all I've been able to get comment on my post. At this point I'm not in a extreme rush I'm still doing the Jp90 I just want to someone to legit talk to me that's used them both for a bit with knowing all of my concerns and experiences and which would suit me better

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum/101780-penimaster-pro.html

please read that post

also from what i heard that rod extenders should get you faster gains compared to PF and with PF you will have to wear it longer hours to see similar gains.

With PF you will need to wear atleast 8-10 hours a day
PMP its around 5-6 hours

both as stated on their websites respectively

 

[aztempe123]

Smitty - you mentioned that the PMP has "no padded Cushing ring for pulling in side directions".

This is because the PMP doesn't need it. The PF attaches by putting your penis through a ring, and then you pull it to the side with the attachment bell. Now, the base of your penis for your whole session is bent up against the cushion ring. This can lead to "ring burn." Look it up.

The PMP doesn't have a cushion ring because it doesn't need it. Not having to deal with a cushion ring at all is almost by definition more comfortable.

 

[smitty2590]

Ok aztwmpe123 you have given me a lot of good advice I've just been trying to make sure. I'm sure I'll end up going with the pmp still waiting on SG refund anyways

 

[jayjefferson33]

https://www.ahcafr.com/phallosan-forte-reviews/ - PF review

https://www.ahcafr.com/penimaster-review/ - PMP review

This review looks good and clearly states that you will have to wear PF alot more hours than PMP to get similar gains and how PMP is better than PF

 

[smitty2590]

Ok I guess I will just put the pf out of my mind and get the pmp soon now for the other question is what all spare parts should I order when buying the pmp to keep from having a month long gap while waiting on parts to arrive? Also is there a alternative everyone suggest over their lube because I think it would be rediculious to keep buying lube from there if I can get it local same as other parts.

 

[jayjefferson33]

1. you would need the hose

2. you will have to wait and see which sized diaphragm and sluice fits you better , once you know that then only you could order the spare latex parts unfortunately.

3. I am sure there are an alternatives to cream, i think other experienced members can tell more about it

 

[jayjefferson33]

Ok I guess I will just put the pf out of my mind and get the pmp soon now for the other question is what all spare parts should I order when buying the pmp to keep from having a month long gap while waiting on parts to arrive? Also is there a alternative everyone suggest over their lube because I think it would be rediculious to keep buying lube from there if I can get it local same as other parts.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/groups/penimaster-pro-d584-alternative-lubricants.html

 

[smitty2590]

Ok one more thing I can't help but notice after reading all the forums is the difficulty attaching the pmp everyone comments on. Honestly i dont care about the time frame j have to wear it I don't need to get my gains overnight I'm ok with my current size I just would like to add between 1.5-2" in length no girth needed at all. So my question to az if I'm planning on a belt system mainly does the pmp actually give better gains then the pf also is that another reason it's so highly recommended? Or is it because the quality and options you get for the price? I feel like I'm beating a dead horse with the questions but it's just sh*t that I keep wondering because I have read multiple times the pf is easier to get on but is it because the auction on the pmp is that much greater or more parts to make it more complicated etc? Also don't think i don't value yalls opinions because I truly do I'm not trying to second guess you just making sure I ask everything I can nc I really won't order it until next week when I get my money refunded from SG anyways. So I have to much time in my hands to keep reading up lol

 

[aztempe123]

OK, let's try it this way:

1. Imagine the PMP didn't exist
2. Imagine that you could make the Sizegenetics / X4 / Andropenis / JES extender (or any other strap extender) COMFORTABLE

Then I'd tell you to get BOTH

- There is a certain amount of tension that you can get from a rod extender that simply can't be achieved with a belt system

- The comfort and ability to hide a belt system will allow you to rack up hours that you can't achieve with a rod system.

- If you bought the SG (or other strap extender) you will soon want a PF

- If you bought a PF, you would soon want an SG

The PMP solves both.

I wish it were as simple as slapping on a PF for 2,000 hours to gain an inch and a half, but I don't think it works that way (maybe for some, so go for it and see if I'm wrong.

I also wish it were as simple as putting in half that time in the extender for the same results, but you may find that walking around with steel rods off your dick isn't that functional.

 

[jayjefferson33]

From what i have read pmp should give you faster gains, is more comfortable, better quality,
You get rod and belt extender both so you will have to know how long you are wearing it active ( max tension without any pain or discomfort or blisters etc) and then passive wearing low tension for longer hours. Of course you can gradually increase these hours.
Pf clearly says on website that you will need to wear it atleast 8-12 a day and if you search the forum one of the guy created a data report that it shouldnt be worn more than 11.25 hours a day for best results. Any time after that is a waste.
Pmp website says you can get similar gains if you wear the device 3-6 hours a day. If you can wear this device 8-10 hours a day you are set for good gains and once your penis is conditioned you can wear it for 8 hours straight

Theres a pf gains table post in this forum if you type in search and you will know how many hours people had put in to get 1 inch length. The best gainer in the table is kickinthemebs and hes gained 1.25 length in 3000 hours and most havent gained even an inch.

Also sleeping in device at a low tension straight for 8 hours isnt for everyone. If you cant sleep while sleeping then its useless. Wearing pf for 20 hours a day isnt going to get you more gains than wearing it for 12 hours. Alot of people buy pf so they can rack up those hours while sleeping but sleeping with the device on isnt for everyone.Also you will have to condition your penis to wear it 8 hours straight at low tension during the day first. You can do the same with pmp belt system if you want to.

I bought mine last night as after doing alot of research i also found that some people didnt gain at all using pf and had to switch to another extender and the ones who gained had to rack up alot of hours compared to sizegenetics

Just take it this way
1 inch with sizegenetic/rod extender will take you around 1000 hour of wear time 8-10 hours a day
1 inch with pf will take you around 2000 hours 12 hours a day

This is what i have come across by reading the posts in the forum for the last few days. Even if you buy pf you will need to buy Sizegenetics later so you can add it as a modification with pf for better faster gains. Mattersofsize forum explained this and call it phalloGenetics. You could maybe find posts here too if you do a search on it.
With pmp you dont have to buy another extender as its the best of both worlds☺

Hence i bought one!

 

[jayjefferson33]

One of the reasons i bought PMP is that i realised i need 2 types of extenders for better and faster gains.
So if i am buying pf now i will have to buy SG later on.
If i buy SG now i will have to buy pf later on.


If i buy PMP now i dont have to buy another extender

 

[smitty2590]

Ok ok y'all have both talked me into it no more questions regarding which one lol pmp it is. Now the only other question is how expensive is upkeep as far as wearable latex products with the pmp. How often should I expect to have to replace them and gel. I'll be ordering mine Tuesday nxt week to get the process going so thanks for all the q&a both of you. I know that was a long road getting pf out of my mind haha.

 

[jayjefferson33]

So you get $40.50 euros to buy accesories if you are a pegym member and use the link from here

This is what i did

I bought the hose seperately for 8.50 euros as it was half price if i had used my discount credit it was costing me 16 euros

Now with 40.50 euros i bought an extra gel and latex parts of all sizes since you only get 2 latex parts each size and i heard initially you will break a one or two before you learn how to use them properly so it lasts longer and then it should last you a month. So i already bought different sizes as i dont want to wait for few weeks in case i break the latex parts
And coz i dont know which size to buy yet. I ordered 1 latex part of each sizes (i.e. diaphragm and sluice)
And when i say 1 latex part it means diaphragm and sluice and they come in a set of 5 each

So now i dont have to worry about parts for the next 3-4 months atleast