Girlfirend cannot climax with me

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I have been sexually active with my GF for over 3 months. In the beginning she eluded to me that she takes a lot to climax during sex because she likes foreplay and kinky talk, something her past partners have not given her. Knowing that i am an exceptional lover, i figured that would be easy...and it was. She says mentally shes never been more excited during sex. But, when it comes to reaching climax with me....shes been faking it.

She says this has never been a problem before, even during boring sex in the past....she was able to climax from penetration if she put her mind to it. But, with me.....it just does not happen for her.

We talked about it, and she mentioned that she did manage to climax the first time we had sex. It had been a while for her and so she was unusually tight...but since then...nada.

I'm not hung like a horse, but i have never had a size complaint. From our talk it sounds like she desires more thickness, she has had two kids but says she didn't notice a change in her ability to climax afterward with other partners.

So, i am both frustrated and concerned...looking for input
 

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Maybe she is psyching herself out, thinking too much during sex. Many things we associate with sex and sexy thought may not actually be arousing in bed. Maybe your penis shape requires different positions for her.

The easiest way to get her to climax is to warm her up really good before you start, so that she is very wet. Then once she is very wet, it takes much less to get her to climax, and it's hard not to have success. Make sure you are very hard and hot before penetration. Then make the back pull slower than the thrust, you actually should put more effort in making the back pull stimulating than the actual thrusting. Try to do 3 shallow then 1 deep. You can also thrust and then when pulling back to make sure the pull back is longer in duration and more stimulating you can even imagine you have a stop sign you have to drift through about half way before you pull all the way back before rethrusting.

That seems like the most simple and best advice I could give.

Everything else comes down to chemistry, intuition, and listening to the body and going with it, sort of like dancing. All the details in dancing matter, but it's maybe too complex for someone to consciously apply anyway.
 

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Have you tried oral and/or your fingers?
 

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Maybe she is psyching herself out, thinking too much during sex. Many things we associate with sex and sexy thought may not actually be arousing in bed. Maybe your penis shape requires different positions for her.

The easiest way to get her to climax is to warm her up really good before you start, so that she is very wet. Then once she is very wet, it takes much less to get her to climax, and it's hard not to have success. Make sure you are very hard and hot before penetration. Then make the back pull slower than the thrust, you actually should put more effort in making the back pull stimulating than the actual thrusting. Try to do 3 shallow then 1 deep. You can also thrust and then when pulling back to make sure the pull back is longer in duration and more stimulating you can even imagine you have a stop sign you have to drift through about half way before you pull all the way back before rethrusting.

That seems like the most simple and best advice I could give.

Everything else comes down to chemistry, intuition, and listening to the body and going with it, sort of like dancing. All the details in dancing matter, but it's maybe too complex for someone to consciously apply anyway.

Thanks for your response.

Here is my slight frustration with the situation, i am the only person to really warm her up like she wants to be warmed up. I am the only person who lets her act out her fantasies when are together. She says shes the most turned on with me than she has ever been with anyone. She said in the past, lovemaking was very cold for her. Most of the time she had to take off her own clothes.

Even in those cold situations, she was able to climax.

Over the months i have tried every position and variation of sexual activity i can think of with obviously the same lack luster results.

It feels like my only option is a bigger dick even though i am at average or above. And my girth looks good in my opinion.
 

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Have you tried oral and/or your fingers?

She does like oral but she says she has only ever been able to climax from it once in her life.

When i massage her G-spot while she rubs her Clit, she has great orgasms. But in sexual positions that stimulate the G-spot.....nothing really.

She claims that her orgasms come from another spot she can't pin point. But, when it is hit she needs no other form of stimulation to climax.

I speculate this is the feeling of being filled by a larger partner.
 

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When i massage her G-spot while she rubs her Clit, she has great orgasms. But in sexual positions that stimulate the G-spot.....nothing really..

I think this is the key bit of info -- she cums when her clit is rubbed. I am like that too; I hardly ever can reach orgasm without direct clitoral stimulation, and it is very hard to get that in most positions. I suggest using your fingers on her clit while you are inside her and see if that works. If you are on top, try kneeling between her thighs, looping her legs over your arms or shoulders, and then using one of your thumbs to tease her clit while you thrust. If you are behind her, reach around her waist and use your fingers (this may be easier if she sits back against you rather than being on all fours).

Another alternative is to use your pubic bone more when in a missionary position. If she keeps her legs out striaght (rather than wrapping them around your hips or waist) then she can really rub and grind against your pubic bone and maybe cum that way. The latter position is just about the only way I ever cum from pure vaginal penetration.
 

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Have you tried oral and/or your fingers?

I think this is the key bit of info -- she cums when her clit is rubbed. I am like that too; I hardly ever can reach orgasm without direct clitoral stimulation, and it is very hard to get that in most positions. I suggest using your fingers on her clit while you are inside her and see if that works. If you are on top, try kneeling between her thighs, looping her legs over your arms or shoulders, and then using one of your thumbs to tease her clit while you thrust. If you are behind her, reach around her waist and use your fingers (this may be easier if she sits back against you rather than being on all fours).

Another alternative is to use your pubic bone more when in a missionary position. If she keeps her legs out striaght (rather than wrapping them around your hips or waist) then she can really rub and grind against your pubic bone and maybe cum that way. The latter position is just about the only way I ever cum from pure vaginal penetration.

I have also thought this was the key as well. I introduced more clitoral play and she will orgasm from a vibrator plus finger play of the G-spot. she says my finger hits a spot inside her that my penis (or any penis) can't manage to hit. Only the combination of the two will make her climax. A favorite toy of hers does the same thing for her.

When she climaxes from penetration, she states that she needs no other type of stimulation....clitoral or otherwise.

I guess my point being, i'm sure that who ever was able to satisfy her through penetration didn't give any thought to it. And i don't know why its so difficult for me to produce the same results.

I thought it was mental for a very long time, but she assured me that mentally shes in the zone...highly aroused. But, she never got that before and still climaxed.

Its not mindset......its not clitoral stimulation......we had a hot steamy relationship that had been great....she still never climaxed. Her having kids didn't change her ability to orgasm....so its not a vaginal change.

I feel that my penis size is adequate......

i am very frustrated in trying to figure this out, i am unhappy sexually because of it.
 

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It sounds to me like you may both be suffering from performance anxiety. I know that I have a hard time cumming sometimes when I know my partner really wants or expects me to; really wanting it somehow sometimes distracts me from whatever it is that I need to have to get there. Likewise, your worrying about this is probably not the best thing for your pleasure either. I suggest you relax and stop trying so hard to have her orgasm from penetration only. Make the best of all the great things you have going together, and have vaginal sex just for fun. Perhaps with the pressure off, "it" will just happen.
 

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I know it's bad to say, but some women orgasm easier when they are not super comfortable. The men didn't care about her or showed her concern, they just were acting like an animal, not paying her much attention at all. Like she was getting penetrated by object rather than a person.

I'm one of those people that thinks orgasm isn't the best thing for women. But pleasure and satisfaction is. Orgasm is a collapse, sure it's about getting to a maximum or peak in sensation, but if you an skip the collapse part and just keep on going higher and higher, it's ends up being a more pleasurable experience. If people don't feel intimate or caring enough, they will collapse before getting deep.

The the opposite is also true, but it depends on the circumstance. This just may be one of those cases. So I would agree with performance anxiety. And also keep in mind that orgasm doesn't necessarily mean you aren't doing a better job than those men. Orgasm I feel in our modern society is half placebo for pleasure.
 

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I'm one of those people that thinks orgasm isn't the best thing for women. But pleasure and satisfaction is. Orgasm is a collapse, sure it's about getting to a maximum or peak in sensation, but if you an skip the collapse part and just keep on going higher and higher, it's ends up being a more pleasurable experience.

Wow, I don't know where you get your ideas, but I do not agree at all. What if I said that men should only edge and skip ejaculation because that would somehow make sex "a more pleasurable experience"? Or that "orgasm isn't the best thing for men?" What an unbelievably condescending thing to say to about the opposite sex!

You seem to think that sexual pleasure in women is fundamentally different from that in men. Well, it isn't.
 

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Dang Batwoman, I like your little spunky ass. In a way, you remind me of someone....
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Sex without ejaculation is a more pleasurable experience on the man's side. I would know. The only reason ejaculation is so good, is because the subconscious ideas associated with it, it is not even that great of a feeling. I let people know that don't worry about me, let's just focus on getting other things than getting an orgasm. I can get an orgasm easy, orgasming in sex should not hold such emphasis for me, because I think it's not logical from my perspective.

And really the sexual pleasure can be different or the same it depends how the woman is conditioned. When woman orgasm they like the subconscious ideas associated with surrendering. Now sensation wise, orgasming is good, I mean I'm not a woman, but I think women would be more defensive about the orgasm, because it's harder for them to obtain it than men in regular sex, and if men don't try satisfying women that would be a big no-no. But is orgasm necessarily satisfying? No. It is not. There are different types of orgasms there are real orgasms and then there are orgasms to stop conflict. Just like the girl's can fake orgasm, their body does as well.

There are awesome Os. and there are Os. The Os really do not matter to me. Because if you just ignore them all together, and swat the Os away like flies you experience something much more humbling, something much more mature, and something that really takes your mind places. For a women though it's hard for her to distinguish sensation to other sensations, so all different types of sensations get wrapped under the same category, orgasm, but from a man's point of view, I only view orgasm as ejaculating. But I can manipulate the things an orgasm is made of so I do not ejaculate and do not feel an ease of tension. They try to categorize women's orgasm into categories, clitoral, g-spot, back of vagina, etc but that does not do any real good. Some orgasms feel awesome and some feel normal. Now then what constitutes an orgasm is mysterious for a woman, much more so than a man. So what I'm saying is orgasms do not matter, although because the complexity of women's sexuality it is used as a landmark, but I don't believe it necessarily should be. I believe people can go to heights without orgasming, and focusing on orgasm is probably more damaging for the sexual experience than helpful.
 

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Hey, you are a doup. Let me ask you a question, Mr. know it all.

If the feeling or orgasm wasn't there for the male, do you think that a man would even attempt to have sex?
Would he be driven to pursue a female if there was no orgasm?
This 'feeling' is what drives the whole reproductive cycle of the human species. And, I might add, the entire animal kingdom. (jP
 

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DoupDoupDoup, I hardly know where to start with this one. OF COURSE it is great to have nice, long buildups during sex and not try to rush each other to orgasm. Does anyone really doubt that? It seems to be true of both sexes that orgasms (however you define them) can be much stronger if you build up sexual tension for a long time before release. OK, so this might be something that teenagers have to learn for themselves, but I think most people of both sexes catch on really quickly once they start having regular sex.

But is orgasm necessarily satisfying? No. It is not. There are different types of orgasms there are real orgasms and then there are orgasms to stop conflict. Just like the girl's can fake orgasm, their body does as well.

Huh? So my female body has been faking orgasms for me so as to avoid conflict? What on earth are you talking about?
 

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Very complex question, JohnPop, that would bring up a bunch of other philosophical questions. It would take someone with much more writing competence than I to get those ideas across.

But would I have sex if I didn't feel the orgasm? Yeah I would. I actually imagine the world would be a better place today if that was the case. Right now, we subconsciously perpetuate things, rather than consciously, so we lose our control to manage ourselves. That is the reason we have over-population and disenfranchisement. Over-population creates war and conflict.

But I believe there are better sensations than the orgasm. You know you can get to a peak and just plateau and rather than collapse, then you can go up again to another peak and plateau rather than collapse. People that have multiple orgasms are good at holding the energy in rather than letting it disperse. But orgasming is not the main concern at all for me.

Huh? So my female body has been faking orgasms for me so as to avoid conflict? What on earth are you talking about?
Batwoman, men's body will orgasm as well to avoid damaging it's member or for lubrication. This is one reason for premature ejaculation and how it is made worse by self-abusive masturbation. Who is to say that is not the same thing happening with women, but the nature of the defensive orgasm would be for different reasons and with different mechanisms. The thing is the more you orgasm defensively, it's not healthy. Orgasming when fully warmed up for a woman is healthy, but also not orgasming but experiencing something that is similar to what most woman call an orgasm may be healthier. The body is a separate entity, it may do things to defend itself against others and also defend it's self against bad habits and self-abuse.

PS: All I'm doing is explaining a perspective. Everyone has different perspectives. I'm not saying I hold this perspective entirely, but I believe that this point of view does exist and should be respected, just as orgasm-lovers should be respected as well. I think orgasming is great at times and with the right partner. Just I think people that don't orgasm shouldn't be mislead that the orgasm is the landmark for sexual pleasure. It is not the landmark for sexual pleasure. And orgasms are different. Not all are the same. Just because someone orgasmed doesn't mean it was good. What is happening here is people being simply conditioned to believe the orgasm or a sensation is good, I can pour boiling water over my left hand and it feels orgasmic, does that mean that it is good or worthy of being a goal. Maybe if I conditioned myself and everyone was talking about oh yeah "I poured boiling water over my left hand 6 times last night, it was so good". It's just mental conditioning. And it's basically peer pressure.

Masturbation may or not be defensive orgasm, you know to categorize something so firm like this is not realistic, everyone is partial everything is a mix. So what we are looking for then is the end goal. The end goal is health and happiness, if that is achieved through the sexual act, then it is a good thing, and that is the category it should be put in. But that being said orgasm is not the ultimate sexual means of health and happiness, I know from experience. Over analyzing ourselves sometimes makes it hard to experience life the fullest. All the best.

Orgasm is good for girls; it's everything everyone makes it out to be. I think it's a good goal. But it also isn't, it just depends on the details and the circumstance. When too many people embrace a concept without thinking about all the edges or the mechanism behind it, it causes problems for some.
 
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I think I came across weird, as well. I was thinking as I was writing, "hmm what am I trying to say here... oh man why did i go here"

But here is just an example of how social conditioning can affect couples: https://www.pegym.com/forums/womans-perspective/7979-trap-external-validation.html

I do not believe it is sufficient to categorize orgasm in the way they are categorized, I believe the popular attitude towards sex can be detrimental to people that don't have the intuitive side with them.

Also, sex is something that is more spiritual, we find ourselves doing all sorts of weird intuitive things during sex. Like huh why am I sticking my left hand out into the air while I put my right hand on my inner thigh. Why do I prefer being touched on this breast rather than the other today? Why do I feel like I'm in outerspace when I orgasm as the eyes roll back in my head? Why does my partner put his left middle finger and ring finger at my lower spine and his right hand on the back of my head, or how does my vagina get wet when I feel that guy's gaze when he is not even in my sight? How does that guy make me happy just by standing with him? There are ideas that are not publicly validated, but are observable and can be used to force outcomes by people that bother to observe them.
 
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If you think this is weird JP, go read his older posts.
 

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Watch her ass closely; she may be building an excuse to cheat on you or she may already be doing it. I know this is not the most positive advice but you have to consider it. Women are sneaky as hell and often look for excuses to step out.
 

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Watch her ass closely; she may be building an excuse to cheat on you or she may already be doing it. I know this is not the most positive advice but you have to consider it. Women are sneaky as hell and often look for excuses to step out.
Wow, what sort of horrible relationships have you had to get an attitude like that? Most women are just like most men -- they try hard at their relationships even if they don't always work. Geeez, give this couple a chance!