Expectation matching? and several questions from the pros

[wave]

hey so i have been reading quite some things here but i would like to have your take as a pro since the internet and especially in this type of area is full of sh*t and affiliates trying to grab cash on the expense of actual helpul info.

i'm now starting from 0, considering i practice solid as in the sticky treads, jelq, oriental, towel, all that, same amount of days in the week... what should i expect?
i understand that it's different from one person to another, but generally speaking, common results.

how does extenders and pumps come into play here? i never tried extender but i pretty like pumps, should i pump in parallel to the other things? does it replaces it?

My balls always get pressure from the pump, they're being pulled in, how can i manage that in a better way?

what is a literal scam that shows all over the place but it's better to avoid altogether?

Can some one repord a success first hand? how much growth in how much time and following which guides or what equips?

Thanks you all

 

[Whatit2ya]

hey so i have been reading quite some things here but i would like to have your take as a pro since the internet and especially in this type of area is full of sh*t and affiliates trying to grab cash on the expense of actual helpul info.

i'm now starting from 0, considering i practice solid as in the sticky treads, jelq, oriental, towel, all that, same amount of days in the week... what should i expect?
i understand that it's different from one person to another, but generally speaking, common results.

how does extenders and pumps come into play here? i never tried extender but i pretty like pumps, should i pump in parallel to the other things? does it replaces it?

My balls always get pressure from the pump, they're being pulled in, how can i manage that in a better way?

what is a literal scam that shows all over the place but it's better to avoid altogether?

Can some one repord a success first hand? how much growth in how much time and following which guides or what equips?

Thanks you all

Super loaded question PE like most things in life takes some form of dedication and consistency. The better question IMO instead of asking how long or is this is a scam is why are you going down this journey and how long are you willing to stay on a routine to achieve results.

Plenty of people have had gains and plenty haven’t. Tugging on your meat too much too soon is a sure shot way to see 0 gains and lots of injuries. Personally I prefer extending for length and pumping and clamping for girth that’s has helped me reach my goals…the first 6 months I did length only. The last 12 months (18 total) I do both together wouldn’t recommend until you’re conditioned for that.

This is not advice just opinion 3 hours of length worth 5-6 days per week starting at 1.5-2lbs eventually getting to 3-5lbs should get you some decent results if you’re a newbie. (1/2” + in a year is reasonable IMO) hope that helps you in some way

 

[wave]

Thank you! so you aren't doing jelqs and all the manual stuff at all? what devices are you using?

 

[Whatit2ya]

Thank you! so you aren't doing jelqs and all the manual stuff at all? what devices are you using?

No not anymore with manuals personal preference. I like repeatable actions you can see my log here for specifics for the first 12 months. I started with an old JES extender I had from 2008-10 I never used until last year. Then switched to a best extender when I had some nerve damage from the noose of the JES and then eventually modified the JES to allow for a vacuum cup still use both for maintenance but the JES I have pretty much out grown & no longer chasing length I wish I would have stopped that pursuit much sooner. For girth I use a leluv pump with gauge and 2 clamps one cable clamp from 08-10 and one new design cable cuff pro.

 

[Bueller86]

Take a good baseline measurement BPEL and EG first. I emphasize 'good' because a 'bad' measurement will possibly give you a false sense of accomplishment later on when you figure out haw to do measurements correctly and consistently.

Second - don't even think about expectations. Its a Trap! I didn't have expectations when I started, but I did extrapolate the 'beginner gains' after a few months and that set unrealistic expectations. If I had it to do over again, I'd wait 3-4 months to get the newbie gains into the equation and then set workout goals, but not enhancement goals.

Be prepared to have slow gains after the first 3-4 months and likely plateau.

Personally, I did mostly manuals and clamping. Resisted pumping but just started last week and the post-pump results are inspiring, but fleeting after a few hours. Time and persistence are my guardrails.

Lastly - don't go to fast. Injuries are not fun and can take a good bit of time for recovery.