I like it dark and strong with heavy whipping cream and just a teaspoon of organic sugar. I had four 12 oz cups of espresso. The thing is I turtled up to 3". Im going to do an expirament in a few minutes. Im going to take 6 grams of AAKG and 300mg of Ginkgo Biloba to see if that can undo the turtle. Now I had the espresso around 2pm and it is 10:02 pm now. Im still turtled even after 7 hours.