wow, just read all 40+ pages. so much information. people here have been saying they kegel at PONR, but on the PreE forums theyve been saying not to kegel. Is the end goal to be able to get to and past the PONR without kegeling? Also, i just started edging a few days ago and just stroking the shaft doesnt do much for me except keep me from losing the erection, but doesnt actually progress toward the PONR so ive been stroking the shaft plus the glands and just stopping when i hit the PONR. yesterday i did it 3 times in 30 minutes or so and the fourth time didnt stop soon enough and a little dribbled out so i decided to finish. when i get to the PONR should i stop completely or go to stroking the shaft until the feeling subsides?

