Double standards are a bitch

[The Maul]

Back in the old days you could backhand slap your wife if she got out of line
And then there was the Rule of thumb

But ever since the resurgence of "Chivalry" hitting girls has been a no no

Today I bumped into a girl at the mall

As a natural reaction I said excuse me but for some reason she not only doesnt return the sentiment but she blows up at me

She started yelling things I would have slit a mans throat for. Infact I have beaten the crap out of guys for MUCH less.

I felt my fist curl into a ball but I didnt raise it even though I knew how satisfying it would be just to hit her in the face 5-6 times

I was always raised to hold to door open for ladies and stand when every they leave the dinner table but to my chagrin and to actually hit one would go againt my 18 odd years of upbringing

Not to mention I remember what happened to the last dude I saw hit a girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LlEVv6YtWQ

Essentially that^ but in a crowded parking lot


So when do you think it will be socially acceptable to hit girls again? I mean that demand eqaul rights, equal pay etc but "Talk sh*t Get hit" doesnt apply to them? I Call BS

 

[RyanV]

I dont know, its just something you're not allowed to do. I was always taught to never hurt a girl. My blood always starts boiling when I see a girl getting hurt by a guy, makes me want to kill him. Oddly enough, I can't figure out the reason why.

 

[Gel King]

NEVER hit a girl. but if she really deserves it... swing her into a coffee table.

 

[E_Weazy]

I dont know, its just something you're not allowed to do. I was always taught to never hurt a girl. My blood always starts boiling when I see a girl getting hurt by a guy, makes me want to kill him. Oddly enough, I can't figure out the reason why.

First of all, I would never hit a woman, it must be something really offensive and rash before I ever touch a girl. But that doesn't mean I won't argue back and tell her to learn some respect.

I see this stuff all the time. Guys that are raised up not to hit women. I respect that, but I don't respect how these women aren't raised to treat men right/equally.

You can't go around doing sh*t without consequences. Thats the problem with these women that the OP bumps into.

Although I will respectfully disagree with you, Im sure under some certain situations, a man fighting back would be ok.

ie. A 200lbs fit woman beating on a 110 lbs small man, im sure you wouldn't hit and "kill him" just because he hit a woman.

Lastly, I appreciate once again your view on things, since many men are like you. But us people call you "white knights" although that term is rude, men shouldn't support the fact that women can get away with things like bitching out and man and slapping him without consequences.

 

[doupdoupdoup]

No... I think that's too aggro. I don't care about following standards, or norms, I do what I feel, and what I feel is men should never aggressively touch a woman or threaten them.

If you don't like a woman then ignore her. You bumped into her, she's a bitch. Get over it, you seem mental, and you might as well forget that you have the ability to kill, or maim other individuals in a society, if you want to participate in a society without any hitches. People that take pride that they have the ability to injure other people are straight fucking idiots. Society doesn't run that way, if it was trust me your ass would already be gone. Get over it.

 

[W.M.P.]

I would never hit a woman unless it was a situation where I would have to choose between defending myself by all means necessary or getting seriously hurt or even killed. Other than that, I'd just walk away. In fact, these days, with all I have seen in my 36yrs of life, I'd pretty much walk away from any potentially violent confrontation. Too many lunatics out there for me to let my ego put me in a regrettable situation.

 

[Guillotine01a]

I remember I was in a fight one time where the guy I was fighting friend hoped in. They were both pretty inexperienced so with effective evasion and properly timed strikes I handled them both. Except when the girls girlfriend hoped in I was kinda off guard. I didn't want to hit her but it would of been three on 1. So I grabbed her wrist and use my right leg to kick her legs from underneath her. I didn't want to touch her but I could of gotten hurt with her as a distraction. It was that or a left hook to the chin

 

[RyanV]

First of all, I would never hit a woman, it must be something really offensive and rash before I ever touch a girl. But that doesn't mean I won't argue back and tell her to learn some respect.

I see this stuff all the time. Guys that are raised up not to hit women. I respect that, but I don't respect how these women aren't raised to treat men right/equally.

You can't go around doing sh*t without consequences. Thats the problem with these women that the OP bumps into.

Although I will respectfully disagree with you, Im sure under some certain situations, a man fighting back would be ok.

ie. A 200lbs fit woman beating on a 110 lbs small man, im sure you wouldn't hit and "kill him" just because he hit a woman.

Lastly, I appreciate once again your view on things, since many men are like you. But us people call you "white knights" although that term is rude, men shouldn't support the fact that women can get away with things like bitching out and man and slapping him without consequences.

I understand you, I would also argue back and tell her to learn some respect. But I can't hit her, if she gets rough I would become really angry and give a hard shove to put her aside. Only the women that really deserve it

Maybe its me, but I do kickboxing and I'm afraid of my own punches. If I would hit a woman, she would most likely die. But most women aren't strong enough to hurt me, so no hitting. Maybe if she's trying to kill you, then ok.

 

[Batwoman]

I am totally against guys ever hitting girls unless their life literally depends on it. It is a slippery slope; not one a thinking man should start down. Of course this is a double standard -- no doubt about it. But in this case, I think it is one that should be respected. I'm with WMP on this -- just walk away. Hard to do sometimes, but afterwards you will be glad that you did.

 

[millia]

I dont know, its just something you're not allowed to do. I was always taught to never hurt a girl. My blood always starts boiling when I see a girl getting hurt by a guy, makes me want to kill him. Oddly enough, I can't figure out the reason why.

Thats the same way I was brought up.. Rape makes me wanna do the same thing. I can't stand that crap. It really grinds my gears, but then again, I also have been pushed to beyond anger by some females. The stupid thing is that they can really get nasty, and deserve a nice pop to the jaw (personally would never be able to do it) and there's nothing a man can really do about it.

 

[Radiohead]

The Maul,

You are a deranged individual. What kind of a man fantasizes about beating up women? You would actually get satisfaction out of hitting another person that is 10 times weaker than you? Disgusting. I know people that are exactly like you. One day, you will get the living crap beat out of you.

"So when do you think it will be socially acceptable to hit girls again?"

You're disgusting. I'm holding myself back from doing anything to your account, just because you're so awful. You dont know the first thing about the abuse some women have to endure because of men like you. Shame on you.

 

[JonPop]

This thread has been reopened for comments. (jP

 

[007]

Oh man, where to start....
First off, I agree with maul with his call of bullshit. Now the thing at the mall...yeah you'll meet lots of asswipes, male and female, just better to walk away. There might be a lot of jerks you meet in public you'd like to pop in the jaw, but a civilized society is civilized because people do not go around acting on impulse.

But this chivalry thing is a whole 'nother can of worms. Chivalry is sexist, because it encourages the treament of one differently from another simply because of their sex. Females are equal to males and should be treated as such, but then to demand equal rights and chivalry....this is another double standard.

Why should I hold the door open for you, or stand whenever you leave the table or pay for dates....just because your a woman?!!!! Are you not equal to me?!? Can't you, shouldn't you do these things for me as well!?! Why don't we teach kids to do these things for ALL people not one over the other? In fact, chivalry is disempowering to females for the very implications that females are weak and need to be coddled and protected by the big tough male folk.

Respect needs to be earned not simply awarded because your female. I try to do "nice" things for all people, male and female.

But E-weazy makes an excellent point, because of the "never hit a female" mantra, more than a few females are growing up without a sense of responsibility for their own actions, instead males are taught to step in and protect females from the consequenses their actions precipitate, consequences that males must face all on their own.

It is cool for females to taunt and tease males, yet not cool when they get a physical response. It is almost accepted as common place for a female to slap a male, and we have to sit and take it. It used to be that touching and tickling was the way to show your affection, now I see girls hitting boys in public or swating them in the nads, and this "non-violent" abuse is supposed to tell me the girl has a crush on the boy!!!???? WTF is all this negativety towards males....it simply re-inforces what we teach...reach out and put your hands on males whenever you want, don't worry they can't touch you back.

I have seen females stir-the-pot causing guys to fight over them as simply an ego booster to the chick...I mean it's cool for women to incite violence, yet under no circumstances can they be touched by it......REALLY?!!!! If you taunt and tease a tiger, do you think it gives a crap what gender you are...your lunch either way.

Now as a general rule we should not hit ANYBODY regardless of gender. No, not all females abuse males. And yes there are some monsters out there that really do abuse females, and should be dealt with. But this atmoshpere of females being pampered and protected simply because they're female, is unhealthy, especially for females, because it holds them unaccountable for trespasses they make against males, trespasses that males get dealt with since they don't have a get out of jail free card simply because of their sex.

And this attitude of just shut up and take it nothing you can do, is just fuel to the fire. No, I'm not advocating violence towards women, or men. But most religious texts speak of repayment in kind for those who trespass against you, why should that not apply here.

I am not trying to win friends with this post, but I am sick of seeing males, good hearted-decent males, put up with female abuse and sit there and take it like it's their job to be a whipping boy for females. I have seen too many instances of this and it torques me to no end!!!!

Just don't hit others...male or female....period. How 'bout that!

 

[Cleave]

So when do you think it will be socially acceptable to hit girls again? I mean that demand eqaul rights, equal pay etc but "Talk sh*t Get hit" doesnt apply to them? I Call BS

The answer is NEVER. This gets my blood boiling faster than anything else. I get it and I agree the double standards that some women get to benefit from are ridiculous at best but unless you felt seriously threatened, like your life was in danger, this thought should have never in a million years crossed your mind.

 

[W.M.P.]

Very good post, 007. I'm all about equality and here in NY, most women open doors and pick up the tab for males as much as males do for women. Up here things are equally competitive and both genders are equally driven; except for Firefighters, pretty much every single profession here (doctors, lawyers, engineers, finance sector, professors, etc.) has as many females as it has males. At the hospital I work at, it already seems like female physicians are outnumbering males. This I personally find to be a wonderful thing.

Also, I must point out that as part of my work, I have dealt with many cases of domestic violence where women have been the perpetrators and they HAVE been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Assault is assault regardless of who inflicts it, and women of all ages do get in trouble for hurting males if these males have the courage to let go of all the preconceived notions of machismo that keep them from fessing up to being physically hurt by a woman.

As you pointed out, we live in a civilized society, therefore we must restrain from inflicting violence at the slightest provocation. No matter how badass you might consider yourself to be, you must keep in mind that there will ALWAYS be someone badder, crazier and willing to take things WAY further than you could ever think of.

In a world filled with stress and all kinds of provocations, us males must be especially watchful of any itching for lashing out with violence. This is even more crucial for all you youngsters out there, with all that testosterone rushing through your system making you feel invincible and immune to all the horrible consequences that might come your way as a result of letting your ego cloud your ability to reason. Make sure to channel those hormones into something productive cause it's really easy to find yourself in a deeply regrettable situation as a result of thoughtless, impulsive actions.

 

[b123]

Im not saying its good to hit a woman but i think if a man does it should be treated just like if he hit a man,because when i was abit younger a girl kneed me in the balls for no reason she asked for a hug and then kneed me if a man did that to me i would off kneed him back harder,i was in pain for days and she was aloud to just walk off and laugh because nothing could be done to her.

And when i was about 15 or 16 there was this girl that was very big and strong and she would pick fights with any man because they couldnt do anything back seems unfair to me.

 

[JonPop]

No matter how badass you might consider yourself to be, you must keep in mind that there will ALWAYS be someone badder, crazier and willing to take things WAY further than you could ever think of.

Great post. I'll give you an example of this quote. War!. (jP

 

[W.M.P.]

I'll give you an example of this quote. War!. (jP

Yup! The govt sent you guys to Vietnam, never imagining the atrocities that those squatty, scrawny, 90 pound dudes were truly capable of. You just never know what the guy next to you is ultimately capable of when the proverbial gloves come off.

 

[calixto]

Back in the old days you could backhand slap your wife if she got out of line
And then there was the Rule of thumb

But ever since the resurgence of "Chivalry" hitting girls has been a no no

So when do you think it will be socially acceptable to hit girls again? I mean that demand eqaul rights, equal pay etc but "Talk sh*t Get hit" doesnt apply to them? I Call BS

The answer is NEVER. This gets my blood boiling faster than anything else. I get it and I agree the double standards that some women get to benefit from are ridiculous at best but unless you felt seriously threatened, like your life was in danger, this thought should have never in a million years crossed your mind.

OK, I know this section of this thread is over, but everyone should calm down a bit. Sure history was bad, but so is alot of things.

I think there is one key question: "Is it ok to defend yourself if you are HIT FIRST by a woman?"

That is what I WANNA KNOW???

NO ONE should get a "hit the fuck outta anyone I want to" card.

 

[millia]

I think there is one key question: "Is it ok to defend yourself if you are HIT FIRST by a woman?"

That is what I WANNA KNOW???

I wanna know that as well.. What if a girl hits me in the face, I warn her not to do it again and she does so, what do you do then?
I mean I'm against any type of woman abuse (emotional, physical) etc, but if she comes asking for it then ... ?