'Do or do not, there is no try'... Aidan's log

[vulcan]

I wasn't actually no Vulcan, I took them in the morning just for the benefit of an empty stomach. Should the others be taken before bed then? Thanks for pointing that out.
I'd read maybe something about their effects counter-acting each other, is that why you're suggesting? I may just be making that up though!

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Sounds too credible for someone to have just made up.

Have you tried eating unsalted peanuts yet Aidan? I highly recommend. A combination of peanuts & tribulus seem to be giving me flaccid girth that is making me smile - new territory for me!

 

[aidan784]

Ahh cheers Vulcan. The supplements I bought were just on based on JonPop's recommendations in the 90 day routine when I started back in May. Was never consistent though, that's why I have some left.

I'm going to try and make some serious diet changes in the new year, and go for a few definitive supplements. I know you and Eric cut down from too many so I'll look into tribulus.

'Flaccid girth that is making me smile' hehe I didn't know Vulcans were capable of such emotions.
Does sound good though, thanks for the advice. Flaccid girth is often forgotten, but I'm still struggling to beat the cold though in terms of getting a good flaccid hang. More snow, joy...

 

[vulcan]

I have taken to doubling up on underwear while it is this cold, works a bit.

There is something to the not taking too many supplements thing, hard to prove. I might start cycling different things, I think Viper was saying he does this.

 

[aidan784]

Sounds like a plan, I've doubled up on socks so I don't know why I haven't with boxers.

I think ginseng is something I'm interested in. It was the only supplement that the 'big gainer' from thunder's used, doing a similar daily routine to going411by7 and now me. I don't expect massive gains because of it I just know it's supposed to be good. I know you've used it, was it the korean stuff?

I wouldn't know where to start with cycling supps.

Have you started experimenting with the ulis yet by the way?

 

[vulcan]

I was taking Siberian Ginseng, and using lots of different teas (all containing liquorice) & taking a product called Men's Tea - felt great but all of it together made my blood pressure go up. Now I am on an ARB to lower blood pressure.

I'd recommend Men's Tea to anyone without high bp ~ similar to erection tea.

The primary thing should be getting a clean diet ~ I for one try to mask my dietary failings with supplements.

 

[aidan784]

18th December 2010

18th December 2010

Well I ended up ejaculating twice, should I feel bad about that? Didn't seem to affect the session.
Anyway first was following a 40 minute edging session. Second was a couple of hours later after a 5 minute 'wank'.

Session went well, left a good 5 and half hours following the 2nd ejaculation. I was quite surprised that my penis was staying up at somewhat higher erection levels as much as it was. As a result EL's anywhere from 30-70 probably.
Thought I wasn't going to get the full hour in but I managed it. Couldn't do the 'mini edging' thing after my session though.

I suppose I'm starting to feel down about this turkey neck but if I let it get to me it will only get worse. Debate's out on whether anything can be done about it outside of surgery, again we'll see.

Think I need to hit the frenulum stretching more diligently now that I think about it.

10 days straight and counting...

 

[aidan784]

A quick update, Probably should leave it until my update for today, the 19th but oh well:

I was trying to do some of that reverse erect skin stretching stuff, after the first 3 or so sets EQ was a bit crap so I just gave up. But it was playing on my mind because I felt I looked particularly small so about half an hour later I thought 'whatever, quick unofficial measurement'...
Stood up, worked my way up to decent erection, not a 10 that's for sure, pressed the tape measure against the bone. I'm one of those whose boner starts to fade when I begin to press the bone, in any case with this fading woody I was clearing 6 11/16 easily!
It was unofficial so I didn't look for making a completely accurate measurement.

I should probably mention that since that official measurement, which was done both sitting and standing, I've done quite a few unofficial ones. Most of these were done kneeling up on my bed but I'm pretty sure I've done some stood up, with a consistent 6 11/16.
I'm trying to make the point it may be just because I was stood up but like I said I'm sure I've done some stood up.
I won't call it a gain though and I seriously did look small.
This also wasn't a post-workout or post-edging erection, but I don't measure those anyway. Maybe sometimes after 10 minutes of edging to get to a decent erection level.

Also decided to wrap my 13cm strip of paper around after this measurement, and while the ends did meet they didn't overlap and I wouldn't class it as more than a 50 percent erection level. Hmm...

Suppose it should put me in a better mood following the turkey neck thing, but like I said I'm not classing this as a gain. Think next official measurement I'll do will be just before I start bringing the stretches in, seems like a decent plan.

 

[aidan784]

19th December 2010

19th December 2010

One of those where I could quite easily have missed it, really tired, glad I didn't. I did only warm up for 10 minutes though because of that.
Feeling tired didn't seem to affect me once I started the session, all went well. Really big variation in erection levels again, at times I was keeping it up at 70-80 for around 5 minutes if I worked up to it. Mostly around 30-50 though I would say.

For once I haven't got much to say about the actual session, but being curious from the events earlier on I measured post session. Edged for about 5 minutes, took a stood up measurement, I swear I could claim a 7bp measurement. Again I was just looking to see if I was beating 6 11/16 nothing serious.
I also had a pretty clear 6 NBP, not something I've been able to realistically claim before. I did still look small though.
EQ was questionable.
Main thing I've taken from it is I need to lose weight! Get that fatpad down to half an inch if possible, would be nice. In fact that would be fantastic. To echo going411by7's sig over at MoS 'lose 15 pounds gain half an inch', I'll really try and work at it in the new year.

Thing is these 'gains', if that's what they are, are without stretching, so I still think I can have a pretty fair growth spurt when I bring them in if I do stay consistent.
Bottom line is this routine seems to be doing good

Need to hit the kegels more seriously. There's a 4 minute routine I used to do incorporating holds of various lengths, will try that later and see if I can manage another set etc.

 

[vulcan]

I looked back through your log Aidan to try & find out, but I am a little unclear as to what it is stopping you from stretching?

Could you explain it again briefly - I want to understand, so as to be able to offer one of my 'trade mark' solutions!

 

[aidan784]

Haha a solution undeniably based on logic?
Esentially, at least to begin with, it was because my inability to retract the foreskin, having read that with glans covered you're mainly just stretching skin, something I wanted to avoid because I have a fair bit of foreskin as is.
Plus I always struggled with a good grip, I did try baby powder which would help for a bit but I was getting through loads of the stuff. Gripping using material closer to the base gave me an ok stretch but because by the glans is usually suggested I just stopped while working on retraction and just jelqing.
When I do bring stretching in I think I'll stretch from several points along the shaft.

After doing a good few months of a slowly progressing jelq only routine I decided to follow going's original routine because it meant no rep counting.
Like I've said in here I have full flaccid retraction now so technically I could start stretching but I might aswell follow his routine as best I can.

Sorry for a long-winded post which realistically could have been answered with 'tight foreskin'. Thanks for checking in aswell.

 

[aidan784]

20th December 2010

20th December 2010

Supps:
2x1000mg l-arginine
2x500mg l-lysine
Taken at different times of the day, Cheers Vulcan.

Ended up leaving it really late, didn't start warming up until 1:25 am. 15 minute warm up.
Upped the jelqs but I can't be sure by how much, don't know whether to class it as 65 or 70 minutes because of working upto required EL again etc. See how I feel tonight's workout, haven't decided if I'll do 65 or 70 yet.
All in all session went well again, when I worked up to around 70-80 percent it lasted a while but quite a lot of the session done at around 30 percent, a pretty plump flaccid esentially.
Did do some more erect UV's though, that expansion is addictive but need to stay away really.

 

[vulcan]

Got it. Could be tempting to give the stretches a blast (now that you can) - as from memory you are getting close to 7" bpel & that landmark would give you a massive psychological boost. We all know they are just numbers, but it sets something off in the brain when we reach certain goals.

Just my Vulcan logic.

 

[aidan784]

Haha hard to deny Vulcan logic. Yeah I have been tempted to do it, I've experimented with trying to get a good grip and that. I just fancy trying following Going's example for the most part, I'm not particularly impatient.
Plus I'm still not entirely sure what stretches I'm going to do, mainly long holds of basic stretches I think. Going spoke about his straight out then straight down, I also read over Wadzilla's 'big gainer' pdf from Thunder's and he did particularly straight out and up. So mayve just directionals, including BTC, of holds of around 3 minutes. Not sure...
Sorry for the long reply Vulcan, this is mainly a suggestion for myself for when I read back over the log.

That 7 does seem pretty close though, but like I said I'm not anxious about gaining. I didn't particularly expect to gain in the jelq only portion, going got his half inch from improved EQ/newbie gains. But I assume I've already had my newbie gains, and I'm just hopefully pretty decon'd to stretches at this point.
If I can manage to stick to the full routine including stretches for 2-3 months and get around 0.5-1 inch length, not the 3 that going got, then I'll be ecstatic. And I'll still have so many more intense exercises to rely on if I want any more length.
Oh yeah, and I'm considering getting an IR lamp after christmas that I can use to stretch under, another reason to wait.

Why are all my posts so bloody long-winded, apologies Vulcan.

 

[aidan784]

21st December 2010

21st December 2010

Supps:
2x500mg l-lysine
Forgot to take arginine later on

Edged for around 30 minutes with ejaculation earlier in day.
Around 45 minutes foreskin stretching done all together.

Session was an odd one, it was almost like there was no grey zone between being more erect than I'd like to be or too flaccid. I may have been at 30 percent when I thought I was flaccid and it's the 70-80 stuff throwing me off. I've never jelqed at such high levels really before since this routine. So yes, varying erection levels, moderate grip for the most part. The sheer length of the routine is starting to get to me but it's probably just doing it at at 1-2:00 am.

May start tracking fitness/ weightloss stuff in here in the new year, it's keeping my PE more consistent so it may help in that sense also.
Again this is just a note for myself

 

[aidan784]

22nd December 2010

22nd December 2010

Supplements:
2x1000mg l-arginine
2x500mg l-lysine

I've been neglecting talking about kegels in my log but I've mentioned that I'm an involuntary kegel'er with masturbation. So the past few days I've given them a bit of a rest, and today I did solely reverse kegels.
What a great idea that was. I was avoiding doing any edging because I thought it would defeat the purpose because I'd be involuntarily kegel'ing like a madman.
At some point I ended up wanking though and what a difference just a day made, not as much involuntary stuff and I could rub my frenulum close to PONR and it didn't cause a massive reaction. Staying power seemed better aswell, glans staying 'inflated' for longer with no physical stimulation.
Didn't ejaculate anyway, I'm going to keep this mainly reverse stuff up though.

Session was a typical one, at least based on these standards of late. Ie I was jelqing at too high levels of erection when I'd worked upto them. Still, a good session in general, again somewhere between 65 and 70 minutes, not sure.

Got some foreskin stretching done during the day, maybe 20 minutes.

Still haven't figured out how to get a session in on christmas day but christmas eve may be ok.

 

[aidan784]

23rd December 2010

23rd December 2010

Session done. Will update/ elaborate later. 'edged' till ejaculation after session.

 

[vulcan]

Why the 2am sessions Aidan - is it a stealth thing?

 

[aidan784]

Yeah warming the rice sock after family are in bed. Still, it doesn't need to be that late.
I can get some sessions in the day during the week but come weekend that goes to cock, and because I try and keep as close to 24 hours between sessions it makes sense for it to be a late night thing. Although today's, if I manage one, will be during the day.
Typical me left all my shopping till today though, oh the joy of Christmas Eve shopping!

 

[aidan784]

24th December 2010

24th December 2010

I've missed my session today, I'm actually going to purposefully try not to log in to the gym on christmas day, it's essentially an addiction hehe...

 

[Going411x7]

Merry Christmas, Aidan--all the best to you and yours. Watch those 80 % to 90 % jelqing sessions. :nono: