DLD aka Mike Salvini and MOS

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I'm not sure if anybody has done this yet, but I just wanted to connect some dots here and inform members of this community about something that's been going on in the larger PE community since summer 2021.

First a little background as a run-up...

The Biohacker forum community first appeared as PE Gym in about 2006-2007. It was founded by remek, a member of an earlier penis enlargement forum community called Th***er's P**ce.

About 3 or 4 years before remek created PE Gym, another member of Th***er's P**ce named DLD (Double Long Daddy) had created his own commercial PE site called M*****s of S*ze (MOS).

DLD had been participating in earlier PE communities like the original PE Forums as early as perhaps 1999.

DLD has appeared in documentary television productions on penis size and enlargement. He produced his own DVD demonstrating his myriad variations on manual exercises. He has worked personally with thousands of guys over the years. He has invented devices and techniques.

For nearly two decades now there have been three big PE forum communities. Th***ers P**ce, MOS, and The Biohacker (formerly PE Gym). Each of these communities has it's own character and it's own style. The communities have been mutually complementary and seem to have enjoyed a mostly healthy competition over the years. Consumers of PE information have benefited from all three of these communities. Likewise, enterprisers in the PE market have benefited from the market research these forums place at their fingertips.

Say what you will about DLD, also well known as Mike Salvini. It's probably already been said! He's put himself at the center of some of the most dramatic controversies in the history of the Internet PE scene. But he remains one of the most popular, creative and entertaining figures in both the communal and commercial markets. For 20 years he has been hands down the most attentive host of his own forum community.

In the summer of 2021, Mike lost his eyesight. From what I've gathered from his own posts on the MOS forums he is completely blind at this point. He has family close to him helping him with some basics. He is getting good medical care. He composed some of his most recent threads on the MOS forums with some sort of speech to text technology for seeing-impaired persons.

If this weren't enough, earlier last summer Mike also lost a close friend - MOS forum technical helper and business associate, Lightning. And then he also lost another close friend who he has identified as the hip-hop artist Biz Markie.

I tried to join his forum recently to search around in the archive there and get more acquainted with the place, and this is when I learned these things. MOS has apparently not been processing new members since mid September 2021. As per a recent post on TBH by straight_jack the admins at MOS are apparently unreachable.

MOS forum activity has sharply fallen off, but I think that's true of all of the PE communities lately compared to what they once were. Mike's was usually the last word on every thread. But his most recent scattered posts now seem to date to early September 2021.

I don't know his exact current status and don't need to if he doesn't wish to publish that. In some of his last posts from Sept 2021 he was finding strength in his Christian faith and he was continuing to work with other associates including Lightning's wife on new products, including a new DVD with new exercises.

I just thought that members of The Biohacker Forums community should be as informed about this news that does and will surely impact all of these communities going forward.
 

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The Pe community in general has taken a hit over the last few years
 

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try looking for saiyan22, at some sites you might have to switch to "intensive mode" search.
 

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Just looking over my post I noticed that two sites I named had asterisks in place of the full spelling of the names of those sites. Is this one of those things that's going to be ironed out? Or are we really not allowed to even mention other sites by name anymore?
 

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This Policy/practice is carried over; Google dings our search rankings when its spiders/bots/web crawlers see other url's, sites.
Search rankings/ratings determine where our site shows up on other people's search requests. Like does our site get listed in the first few hits, or at the last of the page of results. This is why we discourage use of links, urls, hidden links, outside site talk.
If you search for 'left handed widgets' for example. Ever wonder why some sites show up at the top of the results, why others are at the bottom, or on page 2 or 3 ? Search rankings.
Ever wonder how sites determine rates for advertising ? If your site has good ratings, you can charge more. Your site shows up on page 5, you can't charge as much.
Has nothing to do with site to site friendliness or bitterness, being a good or bad site, if you are part of some brotherhood, its all in the dollars. This site is as free as can be managed.
Understanding some of the business gears that are part of the internet workings does help, as I hope my explanation does.
Thank you.
 

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I was there for a while but their forum crashed and never worked right afterward so I just lost interest.
 

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Hmm. I guess I’d just like an answer why PE sites are under attack? What did I miss in my absence? I mean my recent visits to three different urologists are all on board.
 

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This Policy/practice is carried over; Google dings our search rankings when its spiders/bots/web crawlers see other url's, sites.
Search rankings/ratings determine where our site shows up on other people's search requests. Like does our site get listed in the first few hits, or at the last of the page of results. This is why we discourage use of links, urls, hidden links, outside site talk.
If you search for 'left handed widgets' for example. Ever wonder why some sites show up at the top of the results, why others are at the bottom, or on page 2 or 3 ? Search rankings.
Ever wonder how sites determine rates for advertising ? If your site has good ratings, you can charge more. Your site shows up on page 5, you can't charge as much.
Has nothing to do with site to site friendliness or bitterness, being a good or bad site, if you are part of some brotherhood, its all in the dollars. This site is as free as can be managed.
Understanding some of the business gears that are part of the internet workings does help, as I hope my explanation does.
Thank you.
I'm not part of any brotherhood, Dangler. If my OP was a problem just delete it. Geeze.

I didn't post URLs. I used proper names of sites familiar to most users of this site, but perhaps not to all. So the policy is censorship in the name of Google Search Result rankings. I do comprehend how the Internet works. I just wasn't under the impression that we couldn't speak freely here about the larger PE cyberverse.
 

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My momma said if I aint got nothing nice to say , don't say anything at all.

I got nothing to say
I knew somebody would say that :)

I'm a free speech guy, so don't let your mom stop you if you have something to say.
 

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I knew somebody would say that :)

I'm a free speech guy, so don't let your mom stop you if you have something to say.
What could I say that hasn't been said already.

I do wish the guy well but I do not respect many of the things he has done.

He did put a platform out there in the name of PE but he's lied about stats and this is provable. He manipulated photos (again, easily provable) and plain and simply made many bogus claims.

He ran a site that if you even dare questioned him, you would be banished from his forums and then in many cases harassed on others.

Pushes extremely dangerous routines on new guys, claims He can help with overall health but his appearance puts his knowledge into question.

He sold products under the guise of helping while taking extreme cuts from the product manufacturers as well as plain out used the ideas of others as his own.

Hes also invited a few very shady product reps to push their products as well.

PE is a far safer and more honest place without DLD in it and I will stand by that no matter the consequences.
 

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What could I say that hasn't been said already.

I do wish the guy well but I do not respect many of the things he has done.

He did put a platform out there in the name of PE but he's lied about stats and this is provable. He manipulated photos (again, easily provable) and plain and simply made many bogus claims.

He ran a site that if you even dare questioned him, you would be banished from his forums and then in many cases harassed on others.

Pushes extremely dangerous routines on new guys, claims He can help with overall health but his appearance puts his knowledge into question.

He sold products under the guise of helping while taking extreme cuts from the product manufacturers as well as plain out used the ideas of others as his own.

Hes also invited a few very shady product reps to push their products as well.

PE is a far safer and more honest place without DLD in it and I will stand by that no matter the consequences.
Thanks BigO. Well said.
 

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DLD had a lot of valuable info on his site just like TBH has, I suppose we just pick and choose what info we want in different sections.
DLD was a different character than most.
Loosing your eyesight must be hard and I do feel sorry for him.
 

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This Policy/practice is carried over; Google dings our search rankings when its spiders/bots/web crawlers see other url's, sites.
Search rankings/ratings determine where our site shows up on other people's search requests. Like does our site get listed in the first few hits, or at the last of the page of results. This is why we discourage use of links, urls, hidden links, outside site talk.
If you search for 'left handed widgets' for example. Ever wonder why some sites show up at the top of the results, why others are at the bottom, or on page 2 or 3 ? Search rankings.
Ever wonder how sites determine rates for advertising ? If your site has good ratings, you can charge more. Your site shows up on page 5, you can't charge as much.
Has nothing to do with site to site friendliness or bitterness, being a good or bad site, if you are part of some brotherhood, its all in the dollars. This site is as free as can be managed.
Understanding some of the business gears that are part of the internet workings does help, as I hope my explanation does.
Thank you.
I'm not part of any brotherhood, Dangler. If my OP was a problem just delete it. Geeze.

I didn't post URLs. I used proper names of sites familiar to most users of this site, but perhaps not to all. So the policy is censorship in the name of Google Search Result rankings. I do comprehend how the Internet works. I just wasn't under the impression that we couldn't speak freely here about the larger PE cyberverse.
Hi Dangler. I'm sorry for my reaction to this. In fact I was reacting to my own misreading of what you were saying. I read it in haste, probably because I was fatigued after a very physical day, and thought you were suggesting that I was part of DLD's brotherhood. So I'm sorry for that and hope that this clarification can repair any misunderstanding my response might have caused.

I do understand the bind a site like this must be in. Just to stay on the radar in today's Internet, everyone has to acquiesce to Google's rules. It's constrained free discussion and that's frustrating for me. PE has a long history of having to navigate social and cultural norms and conventions. It's not often that I feel the imposition of Big Tech and I admit to being a little touchy about it when I do.
 

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The Pe community in general has taken a hit over the last few years

Hey, Pegasus. I'm curious if you have observed any contributing factors to this decline?

I remember a while back a big change to Google's algorithm that had a major impact on the visibility of YMYL sites.

I've also wondered if PE reached as much cultural saturation as it possibly could, and so what we're seeing is sort of a cultural verdict on the subject that says something like, "Meh."

As well more people have gone mobile and follow the herd to social media. So forum communities in general might not be getting as much traffic.

It seems that there's a lot going on that's contributed to this apparent decline, so I'm curious if you have thoughts. It's probably a subject worthy of its own thread.
 
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Hey, Pegasus. I'm curious if you have observed any contributing factors to this decline?

I remember a while back a big change to Google's algorithm that had a major impact on the visibility of YMYL sites.

I've also wondered if PE reached as much cultural saturation as it possibly could, and so what we're seeing is sort of a cultural verdict on the subject that says something like, "Meh."

As well more people have gone mobile and follow the herd to social media. So forum communities in general might not be getting as much traffic.

It seems that there's a lot going on that's contributed to this apparent decline, so I'm curious if you have thoughts. It's probably a subject worthy of its own thread.
I can tell you the Google algorithum change hurt and was a major factor . It is a weird sort of censorship.
 
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I think another factor the past couple years is that Reddit has been attracting a lot of the people interested in PE, likely due to its mobile accessibility.

Unfortunately the lack of structured forums have made it a chaotic wasteland of muddled and mixed information. The people who go there seem to be far less knowledgeable than the people on this website.

The only structured content is personal guides that M9ter pins to the forum and I really don't agree with everything he says. I still can't believe he says that clamping is less dangerous than jelqing. That still sounds preposterous to me.
 
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WOW OP, I remember all the early website you listed. Shoot I was in my early 20s when I was in the original PE Forum. Awful news reading that DLD went completely blind. I hope he continues his work in the PE community.
 
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