Condoms

[Pegasus]

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TL; DR - condom company owner explains why girths > 5.5 inch don't fit in normal condoms
hi all, you might know me from /r/sex but I own a condom company. Through my work, I have learnt more about fitting latex to dicks than is healthy for a straight guy to know.
A couple of things about fitting condoms to big dicks:

• length is usually less of an issue. Because of some obscure rules (the ASTM in the US, the CE mark in Europe) all condoms have to be at least 170mm in length (nearly 7 inches), and most are actually closer to 8 inches. If length is an issue it's really obvious, because the condom doesn't roll all the way to the base of your shaft. A correctly fitting condom needs to roll all the way the base, ideally without any bunching. Truly big condoms are 9.5-10" long.
  
• width is much more critical to comfort/pleasure than length. It's also just as obvious when it's 'wrong'. Same obscure rules mean in the US, all condoms have to be 47-57mm at the opening. Most store bought are actually 49-54mm, including magnum/magnum XL which are both 54mm opening width but have fancy 'flares' at the tips and therefore allow them to use some spurious marketing claims about being extra large. In the UK, Durex XL condoms are 1mm wider than the normal Durex, while the XXL are 2mm wider.
  
• dick maths : if your circumference is 5.5" (138mm) or greater, you are not going to fit comfortably in ANY store bought condoms (max 57mm width as per the rules). Why? Well, 57mm * 2 gives you the latex circumference of the condom (it's multiply by 2, not pi) i.e. the 'circle' the condom makes when non-flat. So 57 * 2 = 114mm. Your circ minus 114mm gives the amount by which the latex has to stretch to fit your member. At 138mm that's 24mm of stretch - nearly an inch. That's the limit for a comfortable fit (because the stretching force is reciprocated onto your penis). Any more and you are going to experience serious tightness at the base of your shaft, which is where the nerves and blood vessels exit. This = bad.
  
• for girths larger than 5.5" here's the condom lay flat widths you'll need: 6", 60mm. 6.5", 64mm. 7" or greater, 69mm.
  
• if you fit comfortably in a magnum or magnum XL, it is unlikely you have a truly big dick. You may have a long dick, but it will have to be of relatively normal girth. A long AND thick dick i.e. BIG will need a much bigger condom than a magnum. If you still don't believe that, then here's the VP of marketing at Trojan, who make magnum, admitting as much in 2010: A Hip-Hop Contest to Promote a Brand - The New York Times "(the Magnum condom) is the same length as standard condoms, with the same circumference at its base" Mr. Daniels said. “Some people feel more comfortable with that width, but you don’t have to be an overly endowed man to use a Magnum and enjoy it,” he added.
  
• the biggest problem big dick guys have with condoms is that people, especially women (who last I checked don't have dicks), don't believe that it is a legitimate problem and instead dismiss it as bragging about dick size. "But latex stretches" they will shout - well, it does. In fact a condom will fit over your head.. but there is a world of difference between fitting, and fitting comfortably. As recently as 2010 nearly 50% of men asked complained that condoms did not fit - this means they are too big, or too small so it's not just guys bragging about their size. The solution is to make more sizes of condom available which happens to be the solution we use for everything where fitted comfort and therefore pleasure is critical.. shoes, pants, shirts... bras.....

 

[Pegasus]

I like the last dot point.

 

[Zyxciz]

Thanks Pegasus, that's actually really helpful for understanding average size as well as finding a fitting condom. I'm curious though, it says the maximum comfortable stretch for a condom is about 1'' girth wise. If so, what is the "minimum" before it starts getting too loose. With my 4.65 inch girth, I get about 1'' stretch with the 47mm width. Once I start going up to the smallest store size of 49mm, the stretch becomes smaller. Will these condoms fit me or will they be too loose?

Also, this is somewhat off topic but if you had to take a guess, how much girth do you lose by circumcision?

<see thread on this circ vs girth here: https://www.pegym.com/forums/gym/122523-circumcision-girth.html
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[Pegasus]

Circumcision makes my blood crawl.


I would think could wear a 52mm fine now.

 

[Shamany]

About condoms, yeah I have problem in that regard as most condoms come very tight on my dick, one of reasons am liking without condom with my current girlfriend.

 

[Pegasus]

There are a large number of americans who should get there condoms from overseas. This is easy over the net. Why the US has the laws it does I can not say.

 

[Shamany]

There are a large number of americans who should get there condoms from overseas. This is easy over the net. Why the US has the laws it does I can not say.

I think it's Donnie's fault as always

 

[Pegasus]

Um guys start your own thread this is about condoms.

 

[Pegasus]

This from Letsgivehermore
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The new custom condoms are for shorter lengths. What they have realized is that one size fits all doesn't completely work for length. The unrolled portion of the condom is tighter and more restrictive than a completely unrolled condom. This causes erectile issues for men that don't either don't have the full length of the condom and/or that have above average girth. Economically, this one size fits all looks great. In practice, this gave many of the first AIDS-aware generation "condom ED". It is a complete boner killer. Even though condoms are very stretchy, the more they stretch the more pressure they create. A penis isn't a completely rigid object and it takes mental state and good feeling feedback to keep an erection going. When you put a ton of uncomfortable pressure on it, it shuts off for most men. This completely fucked up my sexual youth. I wound up only having PiV sex with girls that I trusted and were on birth control. ONS were usually limited to oral.

 

[Pegasus]

In regard to the last post of course over the net you can get all kinds of shapes and sizes .

 

[Phoenix7672]

Without using customs, I really don't know how some guys do it, comfortably. Even at around 5.2" at the base, 56mm work perfect for me, but regulars pinch and cause a bright red ring when finished.

If I ever do make it to 6" girth, that's a lot of stretch for a 56mm condom, so I guess I'd go the online route (although technically a small price to pay for a girth of that size). Honestly girth goals are linked to mainly 2 things for me -- Primarily how girls react/take it, and secondly, condom issues (including sourcing them).

 

[CLOSEDDennyA]

The guy who owns the condom company is 100% spot on and matches my past experiences with condoms too. I figured out magnums and magnum xl's were a marketing ploy many years ago. Great post!

 

[Pegasus]

Without using customs, I really don't know how some guys do it, comfortably. Even at around 5.2" at the base, 56mm work perfect for me, but regulars pinch and cause a bright red ring when finished.

If I ever do make it to 6" girth, that's a lot of stretch for a 56mm condom, so I guess I'd go the online route (although technically a small price to pay for a girth of that size). Honestly girth goals are linked to mainly 2 things for me -- Primarily how girls react/take it, and secondly, condom issues (including sourcing them).

At 6.25" girth I found a 60 mm condom fine and at 6" a 58 mm but there is a lot of individual vary in how this works .
Certainly a too small condom gives issues with maintaining an erection.

 

[master-gauge]

I actually have yet to wear a condom with my new girth (let alonesex ), so this is kind of helpful.. I figures Skyn Large would fit me alright as they are readily available here..

 

[Pegasus]

I actually have yet to wear a condom with my new girth (let alonesex ), so this is kind of helpful.. I figures Skyn Large would fit me alright as they are readily available here..

Yes a good choice.

 

[Pegasus]

Clinical





Does it fit okay? Problems with condom use as a function of self-reported poor fit

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  [*=left]R A Crosby1,3,4,
  [*=left]W L Yarber1,2,3,6,
  [*=left]C A Graham1,3,5,
  [*=left]S A Sanders1,2,3

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[h=2]Abstract[/h]Objective To identify associations between men's self-reports of ill-fitting condoms and selected condom use problems, using an event-specific analysis.
Methods A convenience sample of men was recruited via advertisements in newspapers (two urban and one small town) and a blog on the website of a condom sales company. Men completed a questionnaire posted on the website of The Kinsey Institute for Research in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction. Inclusion criteria were: at least 18 years old, used condoms for penile–vaginal intercourse in the past 3 months and the ability to read English.
Results In controlled, event-specific, analyses of 436 men, those reporting ill-fitting condoms (44.7%) were significantly more likely to report breakage (adjusted odds ratio (AOR 2.6), slippage (AOR 2.7), difficulty reaching orgasm, both for their female partners (AOR 1.9) and for themselves (AOR 2.3). In addition, they were more likely to report irritation of the penis (AOR 5.0) and reduced sexual pleasure, both for their female partner (AOR 1.6) and for themselves (AOR 2.4). Furthermore, they were more likely to report that condoms interfered with erection (AOR 2.0), caused erection loss (AOR 2.3), or became dry during sex (AOR 1.9). Finally, they were more likely to report removing condoms before penile–vaginal sex ended (AOR 2.0).
Conclusions Men and their female sex partners may benefit from public health efforts designed to promote the improved fit of condoms.

 

[Thick_Unit]

The guy who owns the condom company is 100% spot on and matches my past experiences with condoms too. I figured out magnums and magnum xl's were a marketing ploy many years ago. Great post!

I swear they used to be bigger before the box design change in 2010

 

[Pegasus]

I have seen condoms to 69 mm in stores . In general though anything over 60 mm you will have to go online.

 

[bigbob23]

I don't wear latex condoms anymore. Haven't in years. When I did, used the ultra thin so I could feel better.

I use tpe condoms/sheath as part of my pe. I have used them for her pleasure...but it turned out to be more novel than effective.