Cleave's Progress: Creating a Monster

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Today's routine although pretty similar yielded some slightly different results (slightly smaller flaccid, etc). My routine was as follows:
- No warm-up
- 100 wet jelqs
- 50 V-Jelqs
- 1 set 5-way stretches (50 count hold each direction) w/ 10 circular stretches left and right
- heli swings between each stretch

I have been doing my stretching in the shower over the last few weeks but this time I got the water quite a bit hotter than what I usually do. After my routine my dick felt slightly irritated and throughout it wasn't as responsive as it normally is. What's more is that yesterday when I had a super receptive unit, i also made sure to do a solid 15 minute warm-up and drank some green tea prior to my routine. I definitely don't think these things are a coincidence... Tomorrow I'll back down the temperature in the shower a little so that I don't irritate my dick and make sure to warm up as well :)

I should also mention that part of the reason I could have had a lighter hang today is due to my awesome roommates who had a grand old time yelling at their video games and playing music literally until 6 this morning. Needless to say, it got the day off to a rough start :/
 

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Is tomorrow an Off Day for you? You sound like you might be ready for one.
 

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Off days are now Friday and Saturday. So I've still got two more routines Pirate matey. I really think it was the lack of sleep the other morning and the slight alteration in my routine that dropped the PI's a touch though. My dick really doesn't feel fatigued at all.
 

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Very nice routine :) Kept the jelqs on the slower and lighter side and no irritated feeling afterwards. Stretches were at about a 7 again and were held for a 50 count. As I stretched, I also did a bit of a testicle rub because I'm finding it helps not only how low they hang but how low my entire unit hangs. To finish things up I did some of PE_zen's internal stretches, which are fantastic for hitting the ligs!

As is typical I'm not rocking the greatest of hang since I just finished with my routine but have a feeling that it'll be very nice later on today ;)
 

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Looking very good Cleavester. How long are you holding the internal stretches for?
 

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Looking very good Cleavester. How long are you holding the internal stretches for?

I hold them for about 40 seconds and I do one in each direction.
 

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Is the difference between measuring BPEL vs NBPEL that for the BPEL you are suppose to push the ruler into the bone? Not just hold it in front but sort of push it in a little so it rests there? I gain about 1 cm from that. Please advice on how to measure accurately. E.g. where to keep the ruler when measuring NBPEL? Inside the stomach, but not pressing in towards the bone?
 

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Is the difference between measuring BPEL vs NBPEL that for the BPEL you are suppose to push the ruler into the bone? Not just hold it in front but sort of push it in a little so it rests there? I gain about 1 cm from that. Please advice on how to measure accurately. E.g. where to keep the ruler when measuring NBPEL? Inside the stomach, but not pressing in towards the bone?

There's a little bit of debate as far as how hard you should push your ruler into the bone. I personally have a very small fat pad over my pubic bone and thus I gain about 1/4 of an inch from pushing it in to the bone. You're exactly right on the NBPEL thing though. That really is just holding the ruler out in front of your penis so that it just touches the skin.

If you still have questions, I would highly recommend reading this article: Penis Measuring - You Don't Want to Skip It. It's got a lot of good information.
 

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There's a little bit of debate as far as how hard you should push your ruler into the bone. I personally have a very small fat pad over my pubic bone and thus I gain about 1/4 of an inch from pushing it in to the bone. You're exactly right on the NBPEL thing though. That really is just holding the ruler out in front of your penis so that it just touches the skin.

If you still have questions, I would highly recommend reading this article: Penis Measuring - You Don't Want to Skip It. It's got a lot of good information.

I read that article, but what I don't get is how to measure the BPFSL. If I interpret BPFSL and BPEL correctly the difference is that the first you measure your cock when it is sort of "warmed up", the blood flowing, after some helicopters, etc, but NOT erect. Then you "pick it up" and measure it or are you suppose to really drag and stretch it? I read this article https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory-science-forum/2313-focus-your-pe-gain-tgc-theory-explained.html saying that the BPFSL is normally bigger than the BPEL. For mine the BPEL is bigger, but when I measured the BPFSL I did not stretch it out with force, just sort of "pick it up" after I made sure it was warmed up, blood flowing, etc..
 

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I read that article, but what I don't get is how to measure the BPFSL. If I interpret BPFSL and BPEL correctly the difference is that the first you measure your cock when it is sort of "warmed up", the blood flowing, after some helicopters, etc, but NOT erect. Then you "pick it up" and measure it or are you suppose to really drag and stretch it? I read this article https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory-science-forum/2313-focus-your-pe-gain-tgc-theory-explained.html saying that the BPFSL is normally bigger than the BPEL. For mine the BPEL is bigger, but when I measured the BPFSL I did not stretch it out with force, just sort of "pick it up" after I made sure it was warmed up, blood flowing, etc..

Ok I understand now. No BPFSL stands for Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretched Length. So you do want to make sure to warm it up and such before taking this measurement but you also want to stretch it out (don't try to rip it off but stretch it until it just naturally won't go any further). It sounds like you more or less just measured your flaccid length which would explain why the measurement you got was smaller than your erect length.
 

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Ok I understand now. No BPFSL stands for Bone Pressed Flaccid Stretched Length. So you do want to make sure to warm it up and such before taking this measurement but you also want to stretch it out (don't try to rip it off but stretch it until it just naturally won't go any further). It sounds like you more or less just measured your flaccid length which would explain why the measurement you got was smaller than your erect length.

Yeah it all made sense now :) But EG. Where on my penis should i measure it? I measured it on three different places (close to my balls, in the middle and head) and there are small differences.. What is the general rule? Just choose the biggest I suppose? :)
 

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Yeah it all made sense now :) But EG. Where on my penis should i measure it? I measured it on three different places (close to my balls, in the middle and head) and there are small differences.. What is the general rule? Just choose the biggest I suppose? :)

I would say that the majority of people measure at Mid-shaft but there are also a couple that measure at all three points and take the average. Either way is fine as long as you are consistent with where you're measuring.
 

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My hang was decent yesterday but not quite what I was hoping for.

As far as today goes, I did everything as it came natural to me... This may sound weird but having done PE for a little while now, I don't have to think about how I do my routine. Today I just focused on relaxing and thinking about things to keep me at the desired erection level while jelqing (about 30%). I also incorporated one squeeze after my jelqing and held it for 30 seconds. I couldn't believe how hard I actually got from it. I don't know if these will be a constant part of my routine in the future but I am kind of trying them out.

Will post later on PI's for the day :)
 

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Very nice Cleave. I have been the same way lately. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the exercising. I know my sessions have been much better now that I'm no longer trying to examine every last mm of my unit while I'm jelqing and stretching. Let your hands do the work, relax the mind :D. And yes, squeezes are awesome. I throw a bunch of them in while I'm jelqing. Good job brotha!
 

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Ok so I just realized that yesterday was the second week since my last measurement. I think that I will go ahead and wait until next Wednesday to measure again. If it turns out that I am gaining from my current routine, I'll stick with it and probably won't measure again for at least a month (maybe 2)... if it looks like I'm not gaining, I will tweak it again and measure after just a couple weeks to see if things are looking up with a slightly altered routine.

Also... I've been hanging pretty damn heavy all day long. One of these days I'm going to get around to measuring my flaccid girth so I can have a reference point, but I don't think that today is going to be the day...

Edit: After posting that, I was way too curious not to measure and find out for certain what the dimensions are. When I refer to a "meaty" or "heavy" hang, that usually means somewhere right around 5.75"x5"... So much fun :)
 
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Edit: After posting that, I was way too curious not to measure and find out for certain what the dimensions are. When I refer to a "meaty" or "heavy" hang, that usually means somewhere right around 5.75"x5"... So much fun :)
Holy God of flaccids. Damn Cleave. LOL I wish my erect dick was that big :D
 

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Holy God of flaccids. Damn Cleave. LOL I wish my erect dick was that big :D

Your going to laugh about that one day in the future Gator man. Probably somewhere around the 8x6 mark ;)

Seriously though it would be fantastic if it were like that all the time. I just don't bother posting about it when it's like an inch less in length and girth (which is probably closer to average). It is nice though that it's been happening more often lately.
 

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Cleave,
You make me smile, man. You are doing great and you keep smiling.
Happy jelqing!
 
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Cleave,
You make me smile, man. You are doing great and you keep smiling.
Happy jelqing!

Thanks Pairate! The more I hang around this place the more I enjoy all the people we have here :)