Blood Injection Method

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Higher gauge needles won't allow insertion of blood because of its viscosity and would make the process more difficult.

I've come to terms that intense pain will be involved if not from the needle than from the pressure that will be created once the blood is injected.
 

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The largest needle I ever used for injecting Trimix was 28 gauge and I found it a bit uncomfortable. I normally used a 30 gauge needle. I can’t imagine the pain caused by a 16 gauge needle.

There's precedence for scarring caused by frequent injections. It stands to reason that higher gauge needles may increase this risk.
 

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In my humble opinion the idea is crazy. Hey it's just my opinion.
 

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Bro don't do this! You'll develop scar tissue from frequent injections all over your penis. Just do regular PE, it works and is 1000x safer.
 

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If you read what he has wrote, conventional methods require too much time and haven't worked for him (for whatever reason); so he is trying to think out of the box.
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I don't believe you can achieve plastic deformation with low pressures in a relatively short period of time; as you increase the volume of blood in a given sized container with it no where to go, the internal pressures will increase which demand greater external pressures to overcome the push back. If we theorize that you have a particularly tough tunica and that has been the obstacle to your growth; I can't imagine the pressures needed to reach plastic deformation without some major trauma and let alone keeping the needle in place. I hate to be a naysayer but I think this is a very risky procedure to be done by an individual without some qualified backup person on hand in the event of fainting or other mishaps.
 

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pfm: I've done my first couple of injections to familiarize myself with safe needle location. The volumes were under 10cc.

The pressure from insertion wasn't high with the low blood amounts but I feel comfortable now using the needle.

I would say the challenge is accumulating the liter or 2 of blood necessary for the procedure. I was able to withdraw under 10cc but 2 liters would be an undertaking for someone doing it unassisted.

I need some sort of device/needle that can allow for large transports of blood to a blood bag in a timely manner. I can't keep touching same withdrawal sites as often.
 

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thejefe: I can imagine all the challenges of collecting and safely storing that quantity of blood. Something along the lines of a portable dialysis machine to take in blood and return it via the penis would probably make more sense to me. I would be able, hopefully, to control the volume of blood in transport and perhaps push the return volume rate just enough to overload what the penis can normally handle to achieve deformation; "Just an idea".
 

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pfm: wow, I haven't thought of the dialysis machine(solid tip). I need to figure out what the penile blood outflow rate is to gauge an optimal inflow rate for constant pressure buildup.

I know fresh blood can be good up to 30 days. Online their are freezers or chilling devices to keep the blood stable preventing coagulation.
 

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So you gonna get a dialysis machine?
 

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thejefe: I was approaching the possibility of this idea and the thought of collecting lots of blood and keeping it all stable while you manually feed it into your penis was too primitive. There are methods to pull the blood to purify and oxygenate it real time and return it to your body with a plethora of controls. If you're going to do this at least optimize for success and reduce the chances of contaminated blood in your penis.
 

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So you gonna get a dialysis machine?

Well, he was going to buy a blood refrigerator and after that he would have to make other purchases to put the blood into his penis in a some manner.
 

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pfm: wow, I haven't thought of the dialysis machine(solid tip). I need to figure out what the penile blood outflow rate is to gauge an optimal inflow rate for constant pressure buildup.

I know fresh blood can be good up to 30 days. Online their are freezers or chilling devices to keep the blood stable preventing coagulation.

They advise no longer than 30 minutes outside of the temperature controlled storage; that doesn't give you a lot of time to get anything real done. If I was being rushed by time, I tend to make mistakes, drop things and so on that have the possibility of a negatively cascading effect.
 
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Here is something interesting I'd like to add.

First off, I would never advise someone to inject a foreign substance. I've read enough cases about various fillers requiring reconstructive surgery and possible resulting in penile loss and/or function.

However, I haven't come across anyone who has done high volume blood injection into the penis(not prp).

I've put together a simple operation for those wanting an alternative route.

Disclaimer: If you have SCA or blood clotting issues I would advise against this

The procedure:
1)Have 1 pint of personal blood drawn(you have pay a phlebotomist). YouTube has self draw videos if you'd like to do it in stages
2)Use sterile needle to reinject that blood into your corpora cavernosa aka blood chambers(in flaccid state) at 3 and 9 o'clock position(left and right chamber)
3)Your penis will expand internally(a good thing) and blood will eventually exit

The expansion will be greater than any expansion you could get with clamping. This is the closest thing you can get to a high flow priapism that has minimal risks if the enlargement fails.

All thoughts welcomed!
[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif]priapism is interesting I had a minor event last month no growth since a major event some years back .. it grew a bit when that happened 0.5" but nothing from the minor ones since then honest I would not mess with such or attempt to do one as things might not end out evenly for you. over 7"nbpel and 6.5" girth(7"base girth) here I have high Flow version, it's always been big[/FONT]
 

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Cusp: not sure about dialysis machine anymore. It's expensive for something I might not need.

pfm: If you can think of another option besides a dialysis machine I'm all ears.

Thick unit: you've got a good girth. Have all your priapism episodes been naturally occuring(blood related) or did something like an injury cause it ? Also, i'm aware of the consequences but It's different coming from your viewpoint as you've always been big. Guys don't have proven options in that dept.
 

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Are you concerned at al that a high pressure flow may tear the tissue leading to complete loss of function?
 

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Cusp: I doubt it would cause loss of function considering the case of the Florida teen who had a 10 in girth and still has a fully functional unit. The penis is incredibly tough.

I'd like to max out at 7-7.5 girth during expansion process. The high pressure will be done gradually to offset the damage via some blood transferring device.

I know my expected girth is more than the typical women would want. However, I'd like to break into the industry as I have fresh ideas that would go great with the ability to be the actor as well.
 

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Yes your dick is tough; did you ever dissect one? I did. Funny we have guys on here who jelqued one time and they're shot for life and you're going at yours with a needle as if you're a doctor. First it will not work. Next you will end up damaging your best friend most likely via infection but if not than torn tissue or a problem with and embolism. I feel bad for you but don't say you weren't warned.
 

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Cusp: I doubt it would cause loss of function considering the case of the Florida teen who had a 10 in girth and still has a fully functional unit. The penis is incredibly tough.

I'd like to max out at 7-7.5 girth during expansion process. The high pressure will be done gradually to offset the damage via some blood transferring device.

I know my expected girth is more than the typical women would want. However, I'd like to break into the industry as I have fresh ideas that would go great with the ability to be the actor as well.

If you're referring to megalophallus, it needs to be understood that instances of this in cases of priapism are quite rare. If left untreated, priapism can result in heavy scarring of the penis.
 

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I recall an incident of mine, I had fallen asleep with my original X4 Labs extender non girth base and reinforced silicone strap. I awoke in the middle of my sleep with an odd sensation but no pain in my penis. I pulled back the covers to investigate and saw what looked like a penis blimp; I panicked and quickly released the strap to free my penis from the extender. Luckily I had no ill effects from that experience, but over the years I wonder what would have happened if I left it alone and closely monitored the time and etc. On and off I keep thinking about replicating the conditions over a span of episodes to achieve something along the lines of megalophallus. Realistically I don't want to risk any permanent damage to my penis.
 

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...On and off I keep thinking about replicating the conditions over a span of episodes to achieve something along the lines of megalophallus. Realistically I don't want to risk any permanent damage to my penis.

You do not want to attempt to induce megalophallus! Most who suffer from priapism do NOT induce megalophallus!

The best way to duplicate in miniature and under very controlled conditions what happens in megalophallus is to develop higher EQ and work up to training for a deep level of tissue stretch. Performing stamina exercises in conjunction with your enlargement exercises will also help.

You'll still maintain elasticity of the tunica- something which disappears once megalophallus sets in.