Blakoe ring experience

[tryintogain]

Hey guys. I've been lurking for a while now but haven't really posted before. I've got a question for you guys about my blakoe ring/ring of power/zinger experience.

A couple of weeks ago I bought my zinger on eBay. I got the zinger 2 with silver and magnets. When I first bought it I was cynical but the principles made sense to me and I had a couple bucks floating around my paypal account. Anyway I got my zinger and cut it to my size. I wore it pretty much everyday for 3 or 4 weeks and lost it unfortunately. Still looking for it now grr. I was contemplating buying a new one but before I did I wanted to run my results by you guys to see if it's worth the reinvestment. I originally got this to help my size gains along and because I only had it for a few weeks I didn't notice much change in that department. I did however notice change in my testicles. Here's what I subjectively noticed. Week 1 the ring fit well. Around week 2 it seems like my balls were hanging lower so the ring seemed to be more loose on me. It kept almost falling off. By week 3 the ring seemed to be getting tighter again. Balls were still hanging lower but I assume were getting bigger as the ring was getting almost too tight. This is when I lost the ring. So based on this experience would you say I was positively responding to the ring? Anyone else with a similar experience? If I decide it was working I wil reinvest in the sports model most likely as it's very size adjustable. Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance.

 

[MisterGeo]

Galvanism is quackery.

 

[pterodactyl]

This has also been my experience with my RoP. I don't believe it will affect size at all except for a fuller flaccid hang. I think this is due to either light constriction or added heat in the general area. I have also noticed more semen volume but only after wearing it for at least 10 hours per day for 3 weeks or more. My balls definately hang lower and the sac seems more full. I only paid $16 dollars for mine but would still be happy if I had paid $32. Hope this helps man. I love mine =)

In regards to the increased testosterone I have noticed a slight increase in acne. I have heard somewhere that there is some correlation between the two but I could be wrong.

 

[XitemeM]

Galvanism is quackery.

Have you tried it?

 

[tryintogain]

This has also been my experience with my RoP. I don't believe it will affect size at all except for a fuller flaccid hang. I think this is due to either light constriction or added heat in the general area. I have also noticed more semen volume but only after wearing it for at least 10 hours per day for 3 weeks or more. My balls definately hang lower and the sac seems more full. I only paid $16 dollars for mine but would still be happy if I had paid $32. Hope this helps man. I love mine =)

In regards to the increased testosterone I have noticed a slight increase in acne. I have heard somewhere that there is some correlation between the two but I could be wrong.

I had also experienced a slight increase in acne. Not much at all but a little on my back. Unusual for me. Where dd you pay $16 for your ring?

 

[XitemeM]

I'm pretty sure he made it from a piece of zinc rod, a piece of copper rod, and connected by plastic/rubber tubing.

 

[pterodactyl]

I bought it on ebay from the seller PaylessPlaymore. You can make it yourself cheaper. I have no business trying to cut metal =)

 

[tryintogain]

I bought it on ebay from the seller PaylessPlaymore. You can make it yourself cheaper. I have no business trying to cut metal =)

Haha same. I got mine the same place. Any other members have similar experience with ring/insight?

 

[XitemeM]

Wow that it pretty cheap for a bought one. So pterodactyl, does the increased semen volume make your orgasms stronger? I think that would be a very nice side effect

 

[pterodactyl]

Sometimes stronger. I think that has more to do wit the sex though. Moreso longer with more contractions. Very enjoyable =)

 

[namsokiek]

I'm curious about this theory but pretty skeptical that raw elements accomplish the effect.

Assertions from the online infomercials:

1. Slight electrical stimulation around penis and testies will increase testosterone production.
2. Electrolysis can occur using flesh and sweat.
3. Copper/Zinc pairing is essential, Zinc more so because the effect on testosterone.
4. ROP claims greater contact area (i.e. rods instead of metal studs in blakoe's) improves results

My problems with these assertions:

1. I haven't looked too hard but this may be possible. Electrical stimulation which replicates normal nerve stimulation could produce activity. This has been duplicated with muscle flexing, jump-starting hearts, etc. However, I haven't read studies which demonstrate this effect on hormones. Again, I haven't looked too thoroughly. The side effects would have to be pretty obvious for me to notice if I tried (i'm a little obtouse when it comes to subtle changes).

2. This is the first physical/chemical problem I see. Electrolysis is based on maintaining a balance of solutes in conjoined solutions while electrons move from one metal to another via an alternate route. The available electrons come from the oxidation of Zinc causing the reduction of Copper both of which require a solute of zinc and copper to perform this action. To do this the zinc rod and the copper rod must "dissolve" some of their elements into the sweat on the scrotum, then the electrons travel from the zinc through the scrotum to the copper. This means the zinc continues to break-down while the copper absorbes the copper solute. The problems with these assumptions are:
1. copper solute is limited (if available at all),
2. sufficient corrosivity of sweat to corrode zinc and copper
3. The path of least resistance for electrical movement doesn't seem to be through the scrotum.
4. I think there needs to be two paths, one for the electron travel another for the electrolysis in the solution.

3. ROP takes special care to emphasize this pairing. I believe the assumption is based on the effects of zinc in the production of testosterone. The problem with this is it assumes the zinc solute produced is then absorbed by the skin and it is in a form which can be beneficially used by the body. I have not studied sufficiently to find the most efficacious mineral pairing with zinc, however I seriously doubt [zinc (s) + nut-sack sweat (aq) = best mineral pairing for testosterone production]

4. This is based on the more-is-better theory, however, it is more likely its greatest effect is to shorten the path for electrons to travel through the sweat instead of through the scrotum.

I know some have reported voltage using their ROP or homemade devices; but how was it measured? If the probes touched the metals, the gauge provided a path (and perhaps the only path) for electrical transfer. I would be more convinced if the probes recorded voltage through the scrotum, away from the metals. Not sure how to do this without having the probes in the scrotum (and I recommend against that).

Can the hypothesized copper/zinc electrolysis be substituted with another electrical source like one AAA battery? This seems more likely to provide electrical stimulation through the scrotum because electrolysis occurs inside the battery leaving one to provide a path for electrons to move, i.e. sweaty scrotum.

Thoughts? Are there others willing to give it a try?

 

[XitemeM]

They're very well thought out arguments and questions. But, seeing as how it's pretty cheap and/or easy to make, it might be just worthwhile testing it out to see if it actually works through first hand experimentation. You said you can be obtuse to subtle changes, but one of the suggested side effects is an increase in semen volume, and that's something that could be actually measured. You could use your belly button (or someone elses) as a receptacle

We know that skin has some conductivity though. There's lie detector tests and biofeedback devices that work on this principle. And also there wouldn't be any danger of electrocution if the body wasn't at least a little conductive. The copper zinc electoysis across or through the body though must be very small though.

Pterodactyl and tryintogain, does the copper and zinc rods need to be regularly cleaned? That would be a sign that something is occuring right?

 

[pterodactyl]

Evry day. They get pretty nasty after about 10 hours.

 

[xparky]

I made my own ring according to Tom Hubbard's instructions, using the zinc rod, copper rod and surgical tubing. I'm pretty sure it works in keeping me "plumped" pretty much all the time, as well as enhancing my semen consistency/thickness if not volume. Having not worn it for quite a few weeks now, I notice a decrease in flaccid hang, fewer random erections, etc. vs. when I was wearing it, so I'm a fan for sure.

I'm glad to see that there is still a small discussion community around this thing. Unfortunately, most of the standard posts on the subject - the Tom Hubbard stuff, the Thunder PE Forum threads, etc. - are quite a few years old. I think it would be great to maintain an ongoing dialogue and support network somewhere around the construction and usage of this.

Most important unresolved issue IMHO is the "saline bridge" question... This is the bit about filling the tubes with water or saline (or vinegar, etc., any electrolyte).

Now I'm no electrical engineer, but WITHOUT THE SALINE I get a reading of .5 volts or so when I span the two rods with a body part (any body part) and then measure pole to pole with a multimeter. I get a 0 volt reading when the two rods are completely isolated and I measure with a multimeter. WITH THE SALINE, I get .8 to 1.0 volts with the two rods otherwise isolated and about the same (if I recall correctly) if I put it on (with saline in the tubes) and measure.

I recall seeing some posts out there on the web that suggest that the saline bridge short-circuits the unit by providing a path of least resistance, rendering the outside of the rods useless. On the other hand, a few other posters have suggested the opposite -- saying the saline bridge is absolutely necessary for the thing to work.

Now, most of the diagrams I've seen of standard batteries have them connected through some kind of shared electrolyte medium as well as having a positive and negative terminal. And this would be in keeping with my limited investigation where measuring from the positive terminal of one 9 volt battery to the negative terminal of another, I get no reading (whereas I get 9v, of course, measuring terminal-to-terminal across the same battery).

I also get very good results filling the tubes with regular tap water -- an increase in voltage without the crusty residue that saline causes within a week or so.

Overall, I feel that there's evidence to support the saline bridge being NECESSARY and very little to support its being inadvisable. Any and all input is appreciated - thanks!

 

[pterodactyl]

I don't use the saline bridge and I notice the same effects that you do. I prefer to be able to take my ring apart completely for easy cleaning. Also I can wear it while I sleep as it will come apart before causing too much constriction during nocturnal erections.

 

[namsokiek]

xparky,

I understand your experience but I don't know if it is caused by electrolysis between the two rods or the continual stimulation of the pressure exerted by the rods. This will probably remain unresolved until someone conducts an experiment using nothing, a placebo ring, and ROP; measure the results and publish.

Regarding a conductive solution in the tubes. I believe there needs to be two paths in the circuit; one for oxidation/reduction and another for the movement of electrons. If you fill both tubes then one tube can perform the oxidation/reduction and the other is where the electrons move; which is causing the voltage drop. If the easiest path for electrons to travel is through the saline solution and not the scrotum, then the ROP could not claim to provide stimulation via electricity. If, however, you fill one tube I believe it more likely the oxidation/reduction will occur in the saline solution and the path of the electrons will pass through the scrotum.

Oxidation/Reduction reations occur in a battery, but only when the terminals are connected. In the ROP circuit if one tube is filled it mimics a battery with terminals disconnected. Once you bridge the connection (hopefully with your scrotum) the electrons move. If you take a reading with that configuration the voltimeter also bridges the connections and provides a path for electrons and should give you the voltage difference.

But can similar results be achieved using a AAA battery with terminals ending on either side of the scrotum?

 

[tryintogain]

I'm not so sure about the battery thing. Bump for other blakoe experiences?

 

[MurphKitty]

I just bought my ROP last night from ebay..

 

[Qarzan]

Heheh... me too.

 

[tryintogain]

I still need to reorder mine. I may have to get serious and do some pre ROP measurements. Where'd you guys order from?