Beginner to Advanced Beginner Routine

[kingpole]

4 months in, haven't had any gains yet. Wondering what I'm doing wrong, so I will detail how I am following your routine. Started back around 9/11, MWF routine every week, have missed at most 3 or 4 days during this period due to lack of privacy/trips. My routine, I start with a warmup of about 5-10 mins, then do 10 min of 30 second stretches in each 5 directions (out, up, down, left, right). Also do 50 5 second kegals while doing this stretch, helps to keep me totally flacid. Next I do 10 min of helicopter stretches. Next I do 40 "V" grip jelqs, and then I follow this with 40 ok sign/normal grip jelqs. I try to keep my erection level as low as possible during the jelq sessions, and keep the form slow. I then finish the session off with 15+ min of edging, and then warm down.

Couple questions:
1. My V Jelq form is a lot like the "U" grip you described above, so how do you do the "V" grip jelq?
2. Should I do another set of 50 5 second kegals after jelqing in addition to the ones I do while stretching?
3. Do you see any changes I should make to this routine? It's been 4 months without gains, and getting a little disheartening.....

It is almost impossible to clamp on a tight "V" grip. So then how tight is your OK grip?
Also is youor penis getting plump while you jelq, does it swell and get a bit longer while jelqing. If your not gettting bigger while jelqing you may be gripping to tight. If your getting above 60% erect you may have to rest a bit in order for your erection to get under 50%. Your erection should be in a jelly like state. Also increase your warm up to 20 minutes. Also how long is it taking you to jelq? The slower the better.

It is not unusual to not gain for the first 3-4 months then suddenly you start to gain, hang in there.

Other factors that prevent gains. Certain medications like antihistamines, cold and alergy medications, Smoking. too much caffein in excess of 300mg. Are you relaxed when you do PE. Do you have anxiety, anxiety may prevent gains in my opinion.

I do my "V" jelq like the "U" grip style, which is much the same as the "V" grip.

 

[whatisit]

My ok grip is pretty tight, maybe I should try loosening that up a bit, although the way I do it right now, the head does swell up and the penis does get longer after each stroke. I don't take any medications or smoke, but have been drinking a lot of caffeine, I will try to cut that back a little bit. Also don't have any anxiety. I will try to loosen up the grip and slow down the stroke from here on out and see how that works out..thanks for the help.

 

[kingpole]

My ok grip is pretty tight, maybe I should try loosening that up a bit, although the way I do it right now, the head does swell up and the penis does get longer after each stroke. I don't take any medications or smoke, but have been drinking a lot of caffeine, I will try to cut that back a little bit. Also don't have any anxiety. I will try to loosen up the grip and slow down the stroke from here on out and see how that works out..thanks for the help.

Should work, if that don't work you can advance the routine a bit, say with 4 fingered squeezez and some dry jelqing.

 

[hazeakapiff]

what r v jelqs and u jelqs yes im a newbie i also posted a few questions the thread is titled newbie with questions and concerns if anybody can get back to me i would highly appreciate it

 

[kingpole]

what r v jelqs and u jelqs yes im a newbie i also posted a few questions the thread is titled newbie with questions and concerns if anybody can get back to me i would highly appreciate it

"U" jelqs and "V" jelqs are the same jelq. "U" jelq is done with a eretion level higher than 60% and is mainly for girth. "V" jelq is best done with an erection level below 60%.

 

[whatisit]

Should work, if that don't work you can advance the routine a bit, say with 4 fingered squeezez and some dry jelqing.

Ok, I still haven't made any gains...do you suggest I alter my routine a bit to fit one of those stretches you listed above? How do I do the 4 fingered squeeze and should I replace one of the stretches with that exercise or add it into this routine? Or should I continue with this current routine for a little bit longer...I was 5 months in after Feb 8th, with still no gains...not even any real flacid gains.

Also do you believe in a warm down after I finish my session or the cool down? I've read about both and have been using the warm down right now but was not sure which way to go.

 

[whatisit]

And also if you don't mind, could you explain to me how to do the V Jelq 1 more time, just want to make sure I am doing it 100% correctly...like what qualifies as 1 rep of a V Jelq. I am also using the OK Grip instead of the U Jelq as my 2nd jelqing method, where as you use the U Jelq, is there a big difference between the two? Should I maybe try the U Jelq for a few weeks to see if there is a difference?

 

[kingpole]

And also if you don't mind, could you explain to me how to do the V Jelq 1 more time, just want to make sure I am doing it 100% correctly...like what qualifies as 1 rep of a V Jelq. I am also using the OK Grip instead of the U Jelq as my 2nd jelqing method, where as you use the U Jelq, is there a big difference between the two? Should I maybe try the U Jelq for a few weeks to see if there is a difference?

Lets say your sitting down on the side of your bed. Your semi erect penis and balls are just hanging between your legs. You grab you penis and point it up. Look at the meatus (pee hole) Now place a OK grip at the base of your penis and gently squeeze a little. Then make a "V" grip just above that ok grip. Now gently and slowly jelq up to the glans. Now your OK grip is constantly holding this tension. With the other hand your "V" grip moves up the shaft about twenty times. Now change hands.
this is a form of the "V" grip jelq. I call it the uli "V" grip jelq. This is an advanced jelq for sure.

A more simple form of the "V" grip for beginers:
your sitting at the side of your bed, balls and semi erect penis just dangleing there. point the meatus(pee hole) uo to where you are eyeball to eyeball with it. Your pointing your dick up towards the belly button. Now form a "V" grip at the base of your shaft and slowly move that grip up toward the glans.

 

[whatisit]

Lets say your sitting down on the side of your bed. Your semi erect penis and balls are just hanging between your legs. You grab you penis and point it up. Look at the meatus (pee hole) Now place a OK grip at the base of your penis and gently squeeze a little. Then make a "V" grip just above that ok grip. Now gently and slowly jelq up to the glans. Now your OK grip is constantly holding this tension. With the other hand your "V" grip moves up the shaft about twenty times. Now change hands.
this is a form of the "V" grip jelq. I call it the uli "V" grip jelq. This is an advanced jelq for sure.

A more simple form of the "V" grip for beginers:
your sitting at the side of your bed, balls and semi erect penis just dangleing there. point the meatus(pee hole) uo to where you are eyeball to eyeball with it. Your pointing your dick up towards the belly button. Now form a "V" grip at the base of your shaft and slowly move that grip up toward the glans.

All right so I have been doing it correctly..I am now 6 months into this program and still have not seen any erect gains. My penis has become more stretchy it seems at this point but it has not translated over to any gains in erect or flacid length/girth...been following your original routine everyday, maybe missed a max of 3 days total in there...do you think I should throw in any advanced or difference exercises/stretches to see if it will jumpstart my gains? 6 months seems a long time to go without any gains at all and am becoming a little worried..

 

[kingpole]

All right so I have been doing it correctly..I am now 6 months into this program and still have not seen any erect gains. My penis has become more stretchy it seems at this point but it has not translated over to any gains in erect or flacid length/girth...been following your original routine everyday, maybe missed a max of 3 days total in there...do you think I should throw in any advanced or difference exercises/stretches to see if it will jumpstart my gains? 6 months seems a long time to go without any gains at all and am becoming a little worried..

Probably time to make a change. I feel your on the crust of a gain. Try PE one day and edging the next, work on getting your edging session up to half hour. Also try some lower erect jelqs say around 40-50% see waht happens.

Also thier blocks to gains via diet.
To much beer, maurijauna, porn.
Certain depression medications.

 

[kingpole]

Resistance, one must avoid resistance while jelqing. The seemingly annoying feeling you get in your dick when it no longer wants to be worked. At all times your semi erect penis must be pliable and warn to the touch, hot would be better. When and if things get less pliabe and stretchy, floppy, sloppy, gummy, maleable you must stop jelqing. Let the erection subside and go into the bed fowfer position to get your ding dong sloppy and floppy again. If it does not return to the maleable stage stop jelqing and call it a day.

 

[Larger]

Why is this not stickied yet?

 

[kingpole]

I don't know, lets see if it works first. This is a routine i did while i got my greatest and biggest gains.

 

[redin]

Definetly interested
sign me up.

 

[Z0mbii]

Hmm..

Hmm..

Sounds interesting... I am going to try this for the next month. If i see significant improvement ill stick with it.

 

[kingpole]

Sounds interesting... I am going to try this for the next month. If i see significant improvement ill stick with it.

You may have to do it for se veral months to see results. You hvae to get your edgeing time to at least 3o minutes following yout 15-30 inutes of PE. This routine is time consuming and requires a minimum of three days per week.

 

[Larger]

LARGER stickie thread. Thread need stickie. Many PM about thread. LARGER sleep.

 

[kingpole]

Are you awake now larger? If you think this one is good you need to go take a look at "Im in the mood to mentor 2" Heehehehehehehehehe!

 

[kingpole]

Im In The Mood To Mentor 2

 

[dave8899]

I want to do this it looks like it could be very good. Im a newbie and i have a few questions about how to do things:

- is the V grip left at the base of the shaft?
- it's done with lubricant right?
- what is PE edging?
- what is the BC muscle?
- sorry could you explain what the u grip is exactly;i mean the actual grip that you use to move up the shaft?