Ballooning 101

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After doing this hybrid method (I call it "Riding The Orgasm") for 30 minutes last night with no ejaculation, I am getting steady light tingly full-body orgasmic waves all throughout the day and a very pleasantly warm fuzzy feeling in my penis. It is kind of distracting, to be honest. lol. Here I am at the office with bedroom eyes and the ladies are looking at me in curiosity. Even just urinating feels crazy good. It has been 5+ hours into my day and I am still feeling it.

Cock is still hella heavy. Horny as hell, but I think I could get used to this. :p
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Anyways, reverse Kegels are the key. Wait until you get to about 8 out of 9 arousal, hold the reverse Kegel strong and try to ride the feelings between 9 and 10.

The way I see it, a reg Kegel increases pleasure, and those random flutters can push you over the edge. If you clamp hard on it, you may (or may not) be able to stop yourself from ejaculating, but it is much more difficult than simply riding the dry orgasm. The orgasm from cumming is in that split second before you have those ejaculatory contractions. Extending that split-second over several seconds allows you to experience the orgasm completely dry and it lasts longer without even a drop of pre-cum. Although the contractions enhance the orgasm, without it, the orgasm is warmer and full body.

Let's say the arousal scale usually goes 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 (Half-Erection Stage) - 4 - 5 - 6 (Full Erection Stage) - 7 (Pleasure Stage) - 8 (Building Stage) - 9 (Pre-Orgasm Stage) - 10 (PONR Stage = Contractions+Ejaculation)

If you reverse kegel at 8, then the arousal scale looks more like:

8 - 8.1 - 8.2 - 8.3 ... ... ... 9.5 - 9.6 - 9.7 - 9.8 - 9.9 - 10
-------------------->[ "The sweet spot" / The Orgasm Stage ]

The orgasm stage is actually tucked in between 9 and 10 and most men don't know that you can separate the orgasm out from the ejaculation by going past 9 but not reaching 10. Even prolonging the building phase is extremely pleasurable, going each small step from 8 to 9.

It basically extends the scale between 8 and 10. The first time you try, the scale isn't all that extended, but the more you practice the longer you can hover and ride out 9.5 - 9.9, where the dry orgasm happens. Without the reverse kegel, you will go straight from 9 to 10, with the orgasm coinciding with ejaculation. However, you can separate out the orgasm at around the 9.5 - 9.9 stage. The closer to 10 you get, the more intense the orgasm is going to be without cumming. If you accidentally go from 9.8ish to 10, then just shift from the reverse Kegel to a reg Kegel to stop it and then restart from 6 or 7 (80% to 95% erection).

Don't be afraid to stroke the frenulum to get to 8 or even occasionally message it to build up from 8 to 9 while reverse Kegeling. It feels amazing (why not?), and if you have a strong PC (train!) then your reverse Kegel will give you plenty of time to switch over to a less sensitive spot to ride the "The sweet spot" where all that orgasmic goodness happens.

TL;DR train reverse Kegels. I argue that reverse Kegels are far more important than traditional Kegels.

Side note, this is way more challenging during sex. If you want to try it, I would suggest going with oral first. Let your girlfriend or lover lick your frenulum and slowly stroke your shaft by hand until you get to 8, reverse kegel, have her continue to lick but slower, and then once you reach 9, have her switch to kissing, licking, or sucking on the underside of the base of your cock. If that isn't enough to ride a dry orgasm, you could have her try just massaging your magic spot. Communication is super important here. During penetrative sex, this is like ultra expert mode. It is far easier if she is on top and grinds you than thrusting, as pelvic movements make it extremely difficult to maintain a good reverse kegel, although it is possible. If you do get to the point where you try thrusting, go with the coital alignment technique (CAT) (Google it!) and when you get to 9, go balls deep, reverse Kegel h-a-r-d and grind against/inside of her to ride the dry orgasm. (Make sure to void your bowels and/or take a gas pill first :rolleyes:) Also, note that it takes a lot of practice to remain present with your lover while being able to focus on the sensations in your cock. It might be best to let her know that you may get in the "zone" if dry orgasming is your goal.
 
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You are welcome! I have been lurking on these forums for quite some time. I hang, do JP90, and balloon as my exercises and I have gone from a 5.5" BPEL to a 6.5" BPEL, and a 5.5' BPFSL to 6.75' BPFSL. Girth went from 5" to 5.25" (I mostly hang with LG Hanger). Been doing this for a total of about a year's worth of time with some long breaks in between. I am now a shower rather than a grower, and EQ has never been better (I am 36). My goal is to gain another inch in BPEL and after focusing on girth, another inch there too.
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I feel this technique was too good not to share. :)

As far as PE goes, I plan on not ejaculating from this until after 90 days (I am currently on my own version of No Fap/PMO). Without ejaculating my flaccid penis is so much more full and much easier to reach the hardest erection I have ever had. I would say I am in an extended state of half erection (3 out of 10 arousal). Combined with hanging, I am hoping the gains will come quicker, but only time will tell.

Thanks for reading!
 
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Great article! I find that without visualizations or porn, the best way to get aroused is simply to jelq and do a few Kegels. Lifting weights, taking ZMA before bed, using penis enhancing cream (the recipe on PEGym is great for this), and other methods to boost testosterone and blood flow to the penis will make getting and maintaining an erection easier.

I find that moaning and groaning as I am training gets me way more aroused. Hearing the sounds of ecstasy helps, and I could say the same thing to women -- your moans and sighs might also turn you on too. It is truly a "fake it until you make it" kind of trick. Making sexy noises and saying out loud "Fuck that feels good!" is just as hot when you're by yourself as it is when with a partner.

Another thing that helps is heat. A rice sock, hot damp cloth, directional heater...whatever you have on hand to apply heat to the penis.

Finally, for any guy who wants to stop using fantasies and porn to get aroused, your number one weapon in your arsenal is going to be meditation. I am dead serious. The more you are used to having a clear mind and being 100% present with the sensations in your penis, the more sensitive to pleasure you will be. This is why when fucking your woman, being present will not only make her feel amazing, but it will allow you to adapt to her body language and sexual queues. In fact, distractions like porn or visualizations are just going to take you out of the moment. Being 100% present with your partner, while it might seem that you will lose stamina due to the intense passion, it will train you to take things slowly and savor her rather than rushing through it and having (by comparison) a mediocre experience. And going slow and progressing to more rough sex can actually boost stamina as you remain grounded in your body.

So when it comes to training, it should just be you and your penis. Connect with your penis as if it is your lover. Treat it with the same sensual finesse as you would when making love.
 

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Even if one has serious anxiety issues, if they can train using positive emotional visualizations- picturing themselves performing in an unencumbered fashion- then this can begin a positive conditioning process which can be transferred over to live scenarios.
 

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What does the term ballooning and edging mean, I can't get it. Thanks.
 

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Great OP! I will try this! I've struggled to have a proper boner for many years, even though I train between four to six times a week, weights and cardio. I also eat healthy, and don't watch porn. I think it might be because I'm predisposed with a depression and selfconsciousness about Junior. I 've done PE before, three months of stretching and pumping, and it got better, with some morningwood. But I almost never got random wood during daytime. I did not do this exercise however.

Anyways, just a quick question. I' m circumsised. So I don't feel much, or anything around the head. So I can't get hard by caressing the spot mentioned in the OP. Does it matter how I get hard as long as I follow your other instructions? Thanks for all help!
 

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Edging 101 thread might also be some use .
Consider a kegel/rk workout .
What have been the numbers on any hormone tests you have done.
 

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Edging 101 thread might also be some use .
Consider a kegel/rk workout .
What have been the numbers on any hormone tests you have done.

Thanks for replying Pegasus. I haven't measured my hormone levels, so maybe I should visit my doctor and ask him to do that? 🤔
 

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Will do. I haven't thought about my hormon levels at all. Forget to mention that I can get an erection, but it only happens right before I have an orgasm. In other words I have to edge /balloon if I want to have an intercourse.
 

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Am I suppose to hold the rk or just like 1-2 second then another 1-2 second, repeat, repat.
 

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From here on out , I am incorporating ballooning to my pre-e routine . If I’m not mistaken the sweet spot is the underside of the penis right where the pee comes but below it ? For me this is my magic spot , when rubbing it my IK’s go crazy . Cowgirl during sex really hits this spot and it’s hard to last in this position . So can ballooning stop my IK’s ? I’ve done major pelvic floor work , Hindi squats and everything so I’m just tryna figure out what is the best route for me ? Did my first session today and it was hard to last . IKs were crazy and I’m gunna keep working on this .
 

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when i get a full body massage i ask the masseuse to gently rub under the head and then the shaft at end of massage. i always get so hard!;)
 

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OK GUYS HELP, because I am really lost here but is there any picture or video on how ballooning should be? What is the "Pit" is that where your cum comes out of? I am really clueless to what ballooning is and how it should be done. Can somebody help me?
 

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Ballooning is a form of edging there is lots of info onsite about many different forms of edging .

The normal begin point is Stop/start edging
 

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Hi I tried ballooning and not getting erection on doing the rubbing magic spot. I used to stroke for edging since one year and getting good quality erection. Is it okay to make hard by stroking and do the the rubs. I tried simply rubbing but not getting the good erection level. I did it after 30 mins of strething and 20 mins of jelqs. Is it the reason ballooning not worked for me as the unit is tired of or coz of the regular stroke type edging? Please advise

Thanks