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Kinda makes you think about the stereotypes put on women about how they should be/look....every girl in every magazine/movie/porno is "perfect".

That being said, most women - not to judge - really have no clue about measurements. That or the girl your talking to has been REALLY lucky! Laugh it off bro.
 

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Just think how lucky these girls who think 8" is average must be! Only 1 guy in 50 odd is 8" or more so that is a one in 50 chance ,but hang on to be 8" on average the next guy has to be 8" also that means you have to win 2 of those 50 to one shots in a row . Now that is 50 times 50 divided by 2, a 1 in 1,250 chance. Now if a girl has had 4 partners you are into the millions. Truth is, many girls these days who say they have had 4 partners, have had dozens.
 

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I seriously think that women are trying to mess with our minds. I wouldn't mind betting that a lady like Batwoman for example has got a queue of guys after her because in my experience there are not many ladies that have her attitude. It is our weakness that causes this problem - we should be confident enough to say this is what I have and I am proud of it - instead women light on penis size because they know it is our achilles heal. Now, personally I know that I am no Mandingo but even with 7" I fret and panic all the time that I am too small - soon 12" will be the gold standard. The worst part is that not once have I ever criticised a girl for the size of her breasts or any other body part - not even after a break up or anything like that.

Women are literally playing us guys off against each other which I believe is divide and conquer........

There seems to be one fact that we all neglect - men with big penises are not all Brad Pitt - I would not mind betting that half of the huge penis club is not much to look at.

On both sides of things I get quite cross, when I was at college I had a girlfriend who was a little tubby - but I genuinely thought she was a beautiful girl - curves in all the right places and she was really pretty. We ended up splitting because she was absolutely hung up on thinking she was ugly because of the media portrayal that only thin girls are attractive, just like we are hung up with the size of our chaps.

I am here because I genuinely want to experiment and see whether PE would work for me - of course I would be a liar if I said it would not have its advantages but my main objective is to test the theory of PE.

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QUOTE 7BY5
There seems to be one fact that we all neglect - men with big penises are not all Brad Pitt - I would not mind betting that half of the huge penis club is not much to look at. UNQUOTE


Yeah well I would trade my head and keep the rest if I could.
 

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maybe its just us guys exaggerating, i mean if i asked my friends then yes the average would come out as 7-8"
 

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That's guys exaggerating. I remember one time I was hanging out with some of my friends and my ex. We were all fairly drunk. She just spurts out, "He has a huge dick... I like.. I can put both hands on and suck it." "It's gotta be at least 7"." Then she asked how big my friends were... Somehow none of them were under 7". Wonder how that is...
 

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That's guys exaggerating. I remember one time I was hanging out with some of my friends and my ex. We were all fairly drunk. She just spurts out, "He has a huge dick... I like.. I can put both hands on and suck it." "It's gotta be at least 7"." Then she asked how big my friends were... Somehow none of them were under 7". Wonder how that is...

This post made me laugh to myself - what a random thing to come out with - that's alcohol for you I'm afraid?!

Nice to know that 7" is considered huge by your ex ;)

I bet she is really mad now NP97 because it must be even bigger after your PE work

Not surprising about the other guys though - men have two penis sizes - the first is the physical size, the second is the psychological size and they never quite seem to match up lol
 

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Yeah, I just never bothered with lying about it. Maybe rounding up, like when I was 7.9ish" I would just say 8". But I feel like there is no reason to lie about it. I do tend to call people out on that as well.
"Prove it, whip it out right now." Does that make me gay? Nope, it is for science.
 

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I bring news on this subject. After having a serious hunt around my garage I managed to find an old can of car carpet shampoo which measured in at 8.7" by 6.9" in diameter. Now, I presented this to the girl in question and asked if she would mind if I stuck it up her *cough*. The response was "f*&^ing no way hun". I asked her why and she said that it would be worse than giving birth which I thought was an interesting answer. I then expalined to her that this is actually low average in her expectations. Needless to say she was quite surprised. I then asked her later on to estimate 6" with her fingers. I then measured the distance which was actually 4.2". This excercise would suggest that her perception of 12" would actually be about 8 - 8.5". SO, although far from scientific this would certainly support the idea that women simply can't guage size. That is not meant to be taken as a sexist remark lol.

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Another point regarding size, I've been having a few frank and open conversations with my "player" friend lately, and even he, with his larger than average member, said he has been made to feel inadequate. Hence his dabbling in Chemical PE in Thailand. But anyway, he said of the 3 girls he is seeing at the moment, they all said they have had much larger than him, and didn't think his size all that impressive. He's said he's over 7" long. It really bent him out of shape.

Anyway, even though the penis size statistics show a true average size of 5.5" or whatever it is, because males of a larger size will be much, much more sexually active, I'm wondering if the average size a girl will be exposed to is thus larger than the demographic average. (ie, they're seeing alot of one side of the bell curve, and not much of the other).Which could also be a poor excuse for why women seem to think all men have giant schlongs, or should do, and if you don't there must be something wrong with you/you're not a real person.

If that makes any sense....
 

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I think there are a number of factors in play here. There is no doubt that women (for the most part) tend to overestimate size, and there is probably a tendency for a well-endowed ex to be bigger in memory than in actuality. But there are some huge guys out there, and some of them are pretty promiscuous.

The usual statistical methods such as standard deviation and standard error assume a normal distribution, and I do not think penis size is normally distributed. I think that penis size distribution has a distinct tail towards the large "outliers".

I have discussed the size issue with a few female partners I had gotten to know very well and trusted. For all of them, I was bigger than average, but for none was I the biggest.
 

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Another point regarding size, I've been having a few frank and open conversations with my "player" friend lately, and even he, with his larger than average member, said he has been made to feel inadequate.

Not surprising, player's tend to exude a certain confidence/arrogance and I am sure many a woman would take the opportunity to knock him down a peg or to. Girl's can be quite insecure and like to level the playing field - how better to do this than to hit a man where it hurts?

Hence his dabbling in Chemical PE in Thailand. But anyway, he said of the 3 girls he is seeing at the moment, they all said they have had much larger than him, and didn't think his size all that impressive.

Obviously impressive enough to keep seeing him though?

He's said he's over 7" long. It really bent him out of shape.

Take this with a pinch of salt - a majority of guys tend to inflate their size - a 7" could easily be a 6.5" or 6"

Anyway, even though the penis size statistics show a true average size of 5.5" or whatever it is, because males of a larger size will be much, much more sexually active, I'm wondering if the average size a girl will be exposed to is thus larger than the demographic average. (ie, they're seeing alot of one side of the bell curve, and not much of the other).

I see where you are coming from here; however, according to the Kinsey survey (where the participants were self measured I add) only about 17% were shown to be 7" or bigger - now in reality this is probably only in fact about 10% as evidenced in the Lifestyle's survey where participants were measured by medical professionals and couldn't tap on an inch or so. Further still, I would say 8.5" and above would be significantly bigger than 7" to the point where a girl might make a comment. The amount of men with this size and above is tiny as a percentage of the male population. So, on the basis of this analysis I would say that either your friend is smaller than he makes out or the girls he is seeing are messing with his mind and trying to dent his confidence. The chances of all three girls only having experienced larger than 7" penises are statistically very low.

Which could also be a poor excuse for why women seem to think all men have giant schlongs, or should do, and if you don't there must be something wrong with you/you're not a real person.

If that makes any sense....

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For all of them, I was bigger than average, but for none was I the biggest.

This is interesting Redbear, may I ask what your stats are to give us an idea of what size your friends consider bigger than average?

I too agree, I think there are certainly multiple factors at work here.

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Apparently, 8 - 10 inches is average or so I am told by a member of the opposite sex. Who, interestingly, has yet to mount the horse if you know what I mean ;)

I will add here that the girl in question that I originally started this thread about is still a virgin, doesn't watch porn and has never seen a man's penis. She told me that her friend told her that this was the average... there could be an awful lot of this conventional wisdom circulating amongst the fairer sex.

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At the time I was about your size, around 7 inches of visible length and around 5 inches girth, at mid shaft, about a half inch thicker at the base. My wife told me she had one lover who was probably about my girth, or slightly more, but quite a bit longer (out of a couple dozen partners she admits to).

I suspect she is correct. I would just occasionally have to be careful not to box her cervix in certain positions with absolute maximal penetration, but this guy gave her a cervical erosion over the course of a couple of months which caused her quite a bit of vaginal bleeding and forced her off sex till it healed. She said having sex with him was pretty uncomfortable, but she admitted there was quite a line of women waiting at this guy's door.
 

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At the time I was about your size, around 7 inches of visible length and around 5 inches girth, at mid shaft, about a half inch thicker at the base. My wife told me she had one lover who was probably about my girth, or slightly more, but quite a bit longer (out of a couple dozen partners she admits to).

I suspect she is correct. I would just occasionally have to be careful not to box her cervix in certain positions with absolute maximal penetration, but this guy gave her a cervical erosion over the course of a couple of months which caused her quite a bit of vaginal bleeding and forced her off sex till it healed. She said having sex with him was pretty uncomfortable, but she admitted there was quite a line of women waiting at this guy's door.

Thank you for sharing that Redbear.

So, the biggest she had could have been 8 -10" somewhere in that range?

The cervical erosion sounds painful - ouch!

I'm in interested in what you say at the end of your post about there being a queue for him - given the fact that your wife found the sex uncomfortable with him makes me wonder whether the larger penis is not just a psychological stimulant?

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Yeah, based on what she estimated he was relative to me I suspect he was pretty gigantic, at least 8 inches (NBPEL) and probably 9. I think that for her it was a psychological attraction and a bit of an ego boost. I asked her why she stayed with him if sex was uncomfortable and awkward and she told me "He went through women like they were Kleenex, and suddenly I was a napkin".

The cervix itself isn't all that sensitive in many women. It can even be biopsied some times without anesthesia. What is painful to women is when the cervix suddenly gets pushed, which stretches the ligaments that suspend the cervix and the uterus in the pelvis at the top of the vaginal canal. Those ligaments are very sensitive to stretch. The cervix itself does become very sensitive with pelvic inflammatory disease or sometimes during ovulation.

So my wife didn't have pain from the cervical erosion, just a lot of bleeding and discharge till it healed. She just had pain when he was banging her. I guess he wasn't particularly sensitive about his size.
 

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Now it's posts like this that make me worry about my target size - I recently revised it up an inch to go to 9.3/9.4" bpel which would give me a visible 9" penis; however, the thought of hurting a loved one or being restricted in sex due to penis size being too big is very off putting - especially as it would be of my own doing lol But then again, you must be around the 8 or 9" mark now Redbear? You don't think that I will be making a rod for my own back do you by aiming for too much size (if there is such a thing lol)?

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