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Wow! Some negative energy.
All we are saying is give PEACE a chance!
I am grateful for this site, please mend some fences guys.
All we are saying is give PEACE a chance!
I am grateful for this site, please mend some fences guys.
Alright, that was my stated intention. JP says I am stupid, and wants me to drop this. How would you suggest mending fences?
Frog who picks the fight, and how do you see it ending now that it has begun?
I am willing, and gave very direct advice how I think peace can be accomplished and the forum healed. With love actually. JP however explained eloquently that I am misinformed and not smart. So...?
Frog who picks the fight, and how do you see it ending now that it has begun?
I am willing, and gave very direct advice how I think peace can be accomplished and the forum healed. With love actually. JP however explained eloquently that I am misinformed and not smart. So...?
I picked a fight?
Someone please please tell me what fight I started? I thought in my soul I was trying to stop the fighting. No negative energy or intentions on my part. WTF? :faint: I'm not going to spend what few days I have left on this planet wasting energy on people who thrive on misery. This will be a thread I will avoid in the future and any others that make me feel sad.
I didn't see where you started a fight either. Don't lose any sleep over his misapplied criticisms; I don't.I picked a fight?
I thought in my soul I was trying to stop the fighting. No negative energy or intentions on my part. WTF? :faint: I'm not going to spend what few days I have left on this planet wasting energy on people who thrive on misery. This will be a thread I will avoid in the future and any others that make me feel sad.
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Actually, misunderstood may be more appropriate.
I believe a reference quote and additional comma will help clarify this. I do not believe any attack was meant Frog.
Misunderstood also fits the other references, as it was very applicable. But, I guess direction defines statement. What is a "misapplied criticism" today, a week ago was appreciated;
Being reminded of shortcomings is uncomfortable, certainly, so a response as such is expected.
After waking up fully and seeing the post through Working4it's eyes, I understand what "Wishful" was saying. I think a lot of us are being hypersensitive for no reason.
For those of us with limited mental abilities, and obvious lack of ability to communicate, at least know Frog that I love you and don't think you started any fight. In the words of God though we must fight despotism almost at any cost. So while the fight starters and wrong doers sleep fine, I still have a smidgen of hope that they will wake up and do the right thing. Very small smidgen, but existing non the less.
Yes Cusp the wheels on the bus go round and round. I wonder who shall be thrown under next? I am not smart enough to guess.
Yes Cusp the wheels on the bus go round and round. I wonder who shall be thrown under next? I am not smart enough to guess.
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Stop JP;it's not worth it. Lemmings follow their leader over a cliff for what reason? It's their leader. You feel you have been wronged here then be a man,not an obsessive compulsive child and go someplace else to play!
Since I am not very smart Cusp could you explain in clear language suitable to one who is not smart, are you asking me to leave the forum?
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I've remained conspicuously absent on this thread as have many of the more active members here. With good reason, because I don't offer opinions on conflicts without having all or at least a vast majority of the information & facts necessary to assimilate or offer a reasonable resolution. I think 99.99% of the GYM members reading this thread feel the same way. But from my sidelines perspective, I'm less concerned with who "wins" this particular game, than the end of the season "Championship". I see nothing but negatives and injury coming from this particular contest, so I'm hoping for a "rainout", and a season that won't allow this game to be rescheduled.
I only know that if you continue to pick scabs from an injury, like a fool, it leaves scars that will last a lifetime. That's never a wise choice. Leave it alone and let it heal. Try not to make the same mistakes whether intentional or not, that led to the injury in the first place, going forward. It works best for everyone's mutual benefit, IMO.
I only know that if you continue to pick scabs from an injury, like a fool, it leaves scars that will last a lifetime. That's never a wise choice. Leave it alone and let it heal. Try not to make the same mistakes whether intentional or not, that led to the injury in the first place, going forward. It works best for everyone's mutual benefit, IMO.
That is the intention JITB. There are no scabs as healing has not begun. I have no leader as those I might follow are simply not worthy. The OTHER side team asks me almost daily not to involve myself. A place I love is being destroyed, and I offered some simple ideas for saving the place I love. It is unfortunate that the lemmings followed their leader over this cliff, and it is unfortunate that I can't keep quiet when these types of things continue.
JP I told you my ideas for what you and your team should do in my post to Namso. You said I was stupid, so obviously I won't go bring those suggestions forward again. The points still exist in the post if you actually want to read what I think you should do.
I live with some core beliefs that guide my life. I believe that I must speak my truth, even when my voice quavers. Sometimes it feels very unfortunate, but living under the shadow of the elephant in the room is not something I can do silently. The members deserve better. THIS IS MY TRUTH. Alone.
JP I told you my ideas for what you and your team should do in my post to Namso. You said I was stupid, so obviously I won't go bring those suggestions forward again. The points still exist in the post if you actually want to read what I think you should do.
I live with some core beliefs that guide my life. I believe that I must speak my truth, even when my voice quavers. Sometimes it feels very unfortunate, but living under the shadow of the elephant in the room is not something I can do silently. The members deserve better. THIS IS MY TRUTH. Alone.
If you wish to continue a fight that was over months ago, a fight where most guys on the forum no nothing about ( because they weren't even here yet) or care about and you're not happy here than be a grownup and go someplace else to play. It's over and done so either go about the forum and help guys out or just go. There is no need for this and you know it!
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Wise words JITB. However, without that additional knowledge, that is easier said than done.
You see, this is an example of exactly what I meant. Little insults thrown in, meant to bait and instigate.
Wish, I believe you (and others) would be the lemmings. I would be the one in mind with the "be a man" and "child" reference, as they are ones he used in private before. And also leaving, because Cusp doesn't really want me here.
Well, can't really say creating a thread to trash talk someone unable to defend himself is a manly position to cast stones from, eh Cuspie. Where was your own advice then? In, out, move on? How about this then.
Be a man, own your mistakes, swallow your pride and admit you were wrong, regardless of your personal disdain for me. Facts are facts.
Be a man, and quit hiding behind little insult baiting games. You have a problem with me, talk to me directly. Instead of cowardly PMs spreading tales.
Be a man, and keep your word for once, and show some of that integrity you preach about.
Be a man, and follow the rules you yourself are enforcing.
Be a man, and quit playing people against each other. They're humans, not pawns on your personal chess board for fun.
You see, this is an example of exactly what I meant. Little insults thrown in, meant to bait and instigate.
Wish, I believe you (and others) would be the lemmings. I would be the one in mind with the "be a man" and "child" reference, as they are ones he used in private before. And also leaving, because Cusp doesn't really want me here.
Well, can't really say creating a thread to trash talk someone unable to defend himself is a manly position to cast stones from, eh Cuspie. Where was your own advice then? In, out, move on? How about this then.
Be a man, own your mistakes, swallow your pride and admit you were wrong, regardless of your personal disdain for me. Facts are facts.
Be a man, and quit hiding behind little insult baiting games. You have a problem with me, talk to me directly. Instead of cowardly PMs spreading tales.
Be a man, and keep your word for once, and show some of that integrity you preach about.
Be a man, and follow the rules you yourself are enforcing.
Be a man, and quit playing people against each other. They're humans, not pawns on your personal chess board for fun.
OK, IMO I believe that ammends needs to be made here. One party feels very wronged, the other is still angry and will not lay down their arms.
As in any war both have done wrong, one party has admitted their fault. Now the other needs to admit theirs. It is strength to admit when one has done wrong, not weakness. I know I have had to do it alot, but it is healing.
Please brothers lay down your arms, lets become one group/family again. No more taunting, bullying, just kindness and helping each other to reach our highest self, including working on PE together guys, you need each other. I as someone who has a spouse who has been here need this place to remain positive for him too.
I pray that you all have a wonderful day and that crisis will bring about a positive end. We all always have something new to learn. Peace to all of you
As in any war both have done wrong, one party has admitted their fault. Now the other needs to admit theirs. It is strength to admit when one has done wrong, not weakness. I know I have had to do it alot, but it is healing.
Please brothers lay down your arms, lets become one group/family again. No more taunting, bullying, just kindness and helping each other to reach our highest self, including working on PE together guys, you need each other. I as someone who has a spouse who has been here need this place to remain positive for him too.
I pray that you all have a wonderful day and that crisis will bring about a positive end. We all always have something new to learn. Peace to all of you
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Wishful, you are evidently sided with workin against a perceived, months ago, wrong done against him. One that he will not let go of, and is determined to make the Admins pay for what he thinks was an injustice done to him.
He was originally banned for "Conduct Unbecoming a Moderator".
After many days of hard work by MY team, we came to the conclusion that both parties involved were equally to blame.
One resigned and workin was reinstated to Senior Member. He cannot accept the fact that he possibly, has legal ramifications pending against him and wants to argue this in open forum, over and over.
It is true what Cusp said about Lemmings, if you continue to listen to and support workin's one sided tirade, you will surely follow him over the cliff.
He was originally banned for "Conduct Unbecoming a Moderator".
After many days of hard work by MY team, we came to the conclusion that both parties involved were equally to blame.
One resigned and workin was reinstated to Senior Member. He cannot accept the fact that he possibly, has legal ramifications pending against him and wants to argue this in open forum, over and over.
It is true what Cusp said about Lemmings, if you continue to listen to and support workin's one sided tirade, you will surely follow him over the cliff.
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Really...legal ramifications...More of that, huh.
Oh, and that other resigned? Not what you said before.
Love how you guys say one thing, and post another.
And what was this conduct unbecoming? I still have yet to be told, as the accusations made previously were thoroughly proved wrong.
And so I was to believe more lies and let it go? And no one see's the problem with that?
Oh, and that other resigned? Not what you said before.
Love how you guys say one thing, and post another.
And what was this conduct unbecoming? I still have yet to be told, as the accusations made previously were thoroughly proved wrong.
And so I was to believe more lies and let it go? And no one see's the problem with that?
