Need advice on how to flirt, please!

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Sounding intelligent without sounding condescending is a turn on to women. They want to feel like you can offer them something stimulating aside from a hard penis.

I learned this from a good friend, establish TOUCH very soon, Like the first meeting. Flirting is making quick jokes with them, smiling to them and making them feel pretty. Giving them a passing compliment without waiting for the response is a sure fire way to get a girls attention. hell i know it makes ME feel good. No pressure to answer and you know that person has paid attention to you.

Compliment her on her smell or her look. her smile, or her hair. Her eyes especially. Though it's cliche and they've heard it all before, if you deliver it fresh it works like a charm, especially if you're sincere about it.

in general, Being confident, and being cordial will get you attention.

There's this girl that pretty mean. Friend of mine told me she was mean as hell. I noticed she was pretty stand-off-ish when I talked to her before. I found ways to talk to her here and there. Just in passing, "wow, that's a nice computer! I need to get me something portable like that!" smile and walk off. "you're looking happy today! i like that smile!" and walk off without waiting for her to say anything. Now she's REALLY nice to me, says hi! Smiles whenever she sees me. etc.

Not really a FLIRT so much as a breaking down her walls, and allowing her to see me as a nice guy and she wants to get to know me better :)

Leaning back and putting your package forward might be body language but some women will consciously catch it and not be impressed. I see it in the brag category.
 

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I'm pretty much hopeless as it comes to those kind of advances because I'm too worried about over-complimenting or being rejected. That type of game, the small talk maneuvering, I'm better off not doing. When I actually have a topic, I can be much more engaging and friendly. I guess my strategies will have to revolve around weaseling my way through the bad parts with finding good opportunities and then taking advantage when I become a friend after talking about shared interests. I figure getting really ripped, and I'm in pretty good shape now, will help. It's not like you can go waving your penis around, so having something else physical to help draw people in would be nice.
 

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I've just had the most amazing Saturday of my entire life. None of it concerns this cute receptionist girl, but it provided me with a guide rail for how to act around her.

In short, I will just be myself around her and not worry about if I'm doing things the "right way."

Basically, today I hung out with a lot of really cool, really nice people; really down to earth, unassuming, actually listen to you kind of people. I went to a friend's house and she baked some pies. Invited a bunch of us over to help eat them. I was feeling kinda blah about the whole thing, until I went outside onto the trampoline! It turned my whole mood around, and also changed the atmosphere of the whole party. Before, everyone was sitting together awkwardly, trying to find things to talk about. When I was on the trampoline, I couldn't help myself from laughing; uncontrollable, endless laughing! The sound permeated through the whole house, as I noticed everyone was watching me, and smiling. After I couldn't laugh any more, I went back inside. Everyone seemed a lot more open to me, I think because they saw how I could just laugh so freely. It made them all happy and made me more personable and approachable. It also made them all more friendly towards each other.

We all started dancing together, having a good time. I was being goofy and silly, which I think really lightened the mood again. Most everyone was watching and smiling, then they got goofy and silly too! Good times, good times!

Time came to eat he pies, I was talking to this one girl, super cute and very positive vibe. The kind of person I would like to be. We chatted for a good half hour or so, I just felt so involved and concerned with what she had to say! Empathy and compassion at its peak.

Then we piled into cars and headed to a house party. Got there and danced some more. I saw Heather (Victoria's Secret model) just flat out told her that I thought she was a good person. I really meant it. I explained that I had thought about it, and felt that it must be difficult because there are so many people coming after her, and she has to push them away without hurting their feelings. She gave me a real, honest "Thank you," we stopped dancing for a sec, and she gave me a really loving hug. I felt like this was my role in her life.

I felt that everyone else at the party was being really serious or trying to "hook up", but I was just focused on having fun. Because of this, everyone was watching me. I think they were trying to figure me out; they couldn't figure out what kind of angle I was playing. Well, guess what? I wasn't playing any kind of angle; I was just being myself and enjoying it!

And deep down, this is who I am; and this is who I want to be. No masks, no games. I am the light that brightens the entire room; people can't help but notice me. I think this is what makes me attractive, nothing else. I am the one that goes against all the "rules", and does so with grace and confidence. If I try to be anyone else, then I am just lying to myself.
 
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I've just had the most amazing Saturday of my entire life. None of it concerns this cute receptionist girl, but it provided me with a guide rail for how to act around her.

In short, I will just be myself around her and not worry about if I'm doing things the "right way."

Basically, today I hung out with a lot of really cool, really nice people; really down to earth, unassuming, actually listen to you kind of people. I went to a friend's house and she baked some pies. Invited a bunch of us over to help eat them. I was feeling kinda blah about the whole thing, until I went outside onto the trampoline! It turned my whole mood around, and also changed the atmosphere of the whole party. Before, everyone was sitting together awkwardly, trying to find things to talk about. When I was on the trampoline, I couldn't help myself from laughing; uncontrollable, endless laughing! The sound permeated through the whole house, as I noticed everyone was watching me, and smiling. After I couldn't laugh any more, I went back inside. Everyone seemed a lot more open to me, I think because they saw how I could just laugh so freely. It made them all happy and made me more personable and approachable. It also made them all more friendly towards each other.

We all started dancing together, having a good time. I was being goofy and silly, which I think really lightened the mood again. Most everyone was watching and smiling, then they got goofy and silly too! Good times, good times!

Time came to eat he pies, I was talking to this one girl, super cute and very positive vibe. The kind of person I would like to be. We chatted for a good half hour or so, I just felt so involved and concerned with what she had to say! Empathy and compassion at its peak.

Then we piled into cars and headed to a house party. Got there and danced some more. I saw Heather (Victoria's Secret model) just flat out told her that I thought she was a good person. I really meant it. I explained that I had thought about it, and felt that it must be difficult because there are so many people coming after her, and she has to push them away without hurting their feelings. She gave me a real, honest "Thank you," we stopped dancing for a sec, and she gave me a really loving hug. I felt like this was my role in her life.

I felt that everyone else at the party was being really serious or trying to "hook up", but I was just focused on having fun. Because of this, everyone was watching me. I think they were trying to figure me out; they couldn't figure out what kind of angle I was playing. Well, guess what? I wasn't playing any kind of angle; I was just being myself and enjoying it!

And deep down, this is who I am; and this is who I want to be. No masks, no games. I am the light that brightens the entire room; people can't help but notice me. I think this is what makes me attractive, nothing else. I am the one that goes against all the "rules", and does so with grace and confidence. If I try to be anyone else, then I am just lying to myself.

Good for you, Qarzan. Just being yourself in my opinion is the best way. Of course, when you're out trying to attract a girl, you step up your game a little, but not so much to where, you can't even recognize yourself. And you've got a great trait going for you: breaking the ice when everyone's a little up tight. Girls like that:)

You must be young because us older hens don't do the whole trampoline thing. Well, occasionally when my kids want me too and it is ALWAYS funny!
 

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I am the light that brightens the entire room; people can't help but notice me. I think this is what makes me attractive, nothing else. I am the one that goes against all the "rules", and does so with grace and confidence. If I try to be anyone else, then I am just lying to myself.

I absolutely agree with above. What girls react to the most is not really what you say, but your negative or positive "energy". As long as you are in a good mood and are happy to be alive, you'll send off an attractive vibe and stand out from the rest of the dudes politely chuging their beer - enthusiasm is contageous! What you say, does matter to a degree, but your inner mood/energy always determines how you say it, and even what you say.

Someone said earlier something about my definition of flirting as going after "submissive women". Takes one to know one, my friend! haaaaahahaha!! Based on your personality, Qarzan, I'd say the women that are attracted to you are very much the opposite. These are the very same ones that will enjoy bantering and flirting with you. Ones that are too laid back and have no or low self esteem, will simply not offer up a fight at all - the flirting and the chasing will not appeal to them.
 
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Be real always. A woman would rather have a man who is real then find herself stuck with a man who was a fake during courtship but an asshole in reality (which happens more than admitted).
 

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Good for you, Qarzan. Just being yourself in my opinion is the best way. Of course, when you're out trying to attract a girl, you step up your game a little, but not so much to where, you can't even recognize yourself. And you've got a great trait going for you: breaking the ice when everyone's a little up tight. Girls like that:)

You must be young because us older hens don't do the whole trampoline thing. Well, occasionally when my kids want me too and it is ALWAYS funny!


This is so very true. being true to yourself is always key.

For me, i'm a playful, laughing happy go lucky person. I'm one of those guys who likes to smile, wear my heart on my sleeve (not super sensitive, but you know how i feel without me saying anything) and I come across as very genuine.

when you come across as genuine, you're actually attractive to all sorts of people.

glad you figured out how to be yourself Q... that's all you need in life. The girls will come when you are yourself :)
 

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Ok so apparently cute receptionist girl un-friended me. I blame facebook. Or maybe her own insecurity / jealousy. There was a lot of communication going on between me and a bunch of my dancer friends (read: cute girls) about meeting up, and then lots of posts on each others' walls for such a fun time, yadda yadda. I mean, hell, it was Halloween weekend, right? There's gonna be lots of stuff going on, and a lot of coordinating, and then lots of talk afterwards.

I'll still be nice and smiley when I see her next. No need to be angry or upset.

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On another note, was shopping for the last bits of my costume for tonight's party (yes, this is the 5th party in 3 days!), going as a punk rocker, but adding in some cutesy type stuff (hello kitty necklace & bracelet, elmo socks, temporary tattoos of butterflies and peace symbols). I went in to Spencer's and was looking for some clip-on earrings, was helped by this pretty cute cashier. Just played it normal because I didn't want to intrude or seem creepy (unwelcome advances are interpreted as creepy, so I only advance when I sense attraction).

About a minute into it, I noticed she was being really helpful and ignoring other customers to help me. I told her she could take care of the other people, so she left to do that. She kept coming back and saying, "I'll get back to you right away" every 2 or 3 minutes, I guess to make sure I wasn't going to leave. I said things like "No don't worry about it," "Take your time," and "No rush." Then we started looking at jewelry (I have my navel pierced).

I made a few jokes that got her laughing. She asked to see my navel ring. It's a typical ring with a single ball. She said, "Oh, I was expecting something else." And I said, "What, like a unicorn?" She laughed and said, "You're funny!"

Then she found out the gauge (size) of the ring, it was 14-gauge. I told her I might be willing to go with a thicker metal, since a thicker ring would look more manly. There was a 10-gauge one that I liked, but then I said that I think it would be too much of a jump to go from 14 to 10, and I said, "It'll be too big. I won't be able to fit it in." Then we continued looking, and about 10 seconds later I said, "That didn't sound too good." She laughed again.

There were these navel rings that had the Playboy bunny logo on the ball, really small logo. She said, "Well, it's so small nobody's gonna see it unless they get really close." And then I said, "Yeah, nobody's gonna see it. ... Well,... if they do see it, they'll already know anyways... if they're down there already." She laughed, and then asked for my name.

I told her I used to have my tonuge pierced (which is true). She said she would do it, but people usually think you're slutty if you're a girl with a pierced tongue. I said that I could understand that. Then she asked why I took mine out, I told her because it was damaging my teeth.

After she rang me up and I paid, I asked if she went dancing. She said "no" and then told me that she was in culinary school learning to be a pastry chef. We talked about that for a while, she seemed like she enjoyed talking to me. I asked follow up questions. Then I gave her my phone number, written on receipt paper (with my name, number, and the description "Punk with feelings :)" ), telling her that if she ever wants to try dancing, she should call me.

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So, there it is! Any advice / suggestions? Debriefing? Was it right to give her my number, or should I have asked for hers instead?

I've pretty much found out that, like most people here say, facebook is a death knoll on any potential budding relationship, which is why I didn't ask for hers. I also used it at a party on Saturday to "deflect" the advances of a pretty hot girl. Really hot, blonde Australian girl that locked eyes with me on the dance floor, so I just walked over to her, but something about the way she was acting made me feel like she was trouble. I felt that she was advancing too quick, and when she asked for a way to get in touch, I told her to look me up on facebook (which she did). Now I know that facebook is a "deflection" device, and a phone number is the way to go.

I feel more comfortable giving her my number because then I don't have to worry about the timing, when should I call, is it gonna be too forward?

I'm thinking, if she doesn't call me after a week or so, I'll go in and see her. Not buy anything, just see if she's there, and then say, "oh, I'm not here to get anything, I came in to see you" and then maybe invite her out to something that's going on. If she isn't there, I can leave a note for her co-workers to leave in her work inbox or something, letting her know about what this thing going on and to call me if she wants to come (or if she just wants to hang out).

I like this idea of just coming out and being forward and clear. It's more my style. But I understand that I shouldn't label it as "date" or anything.
 
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Very good i really like your outgoing positive attitude,thats how i am but i practice flirting with my customers so regulary now i forget im doing it!.Another thing i have found myself doing is when i am out and theres a women i like i give her a nice smile(nothing creepy) and 95% smile back and hold eye contact for a while,its just a habit i have got into.If you go fishing with a big enough net you will catch something,just filter out the mingers.
 

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Ok, MrMark, so can I ask you this question?

If one of those customers that you practiced flirting with came back and asked to go to lunch, how would that make you feel? Would you say yes?

Well, I'll still probably do it, regardless of your answer, but I'd still like to know. Thanks!
 

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Yeah definitly,i only flirt with the ones i am physically attracted to so if one came and asked me to go to lunch i would take the offer in a heartbeat.If you like her then go for it before someone else gets in there,its surprising how a smile can bring down peoples barriers,when a random lady smiles at me when im out it makes me feel really good.Good luck
 

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Hmm, ok, so I hear you saying I shouldn't wait. I was planning on going on Monday since that's when I'm certain she works, assuming next week's schedule is the same as this week's. But now I'm thinking I'll go tomorrow, just to see if she's there. If not, I'll go back on Monday.
 

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Qarzan, your drive is infectious. Never lose it x
 

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Thats the spirit i like to see just remember you have nothing to lose and everything to gain,the absolute worse thing that can happen is she says no then you just move onto next on the list!.
 

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Haha! Yeah, I was thinking about my options, and here they are:

1) ask her out; or
2) never see her again

I've also been thinking about what to say if she rejects me (by telling me she has a boyfriend). Things like this:

"Can't blame a guy for trying, right?"
"Figures. All the good ones are already taken."

Or even bolder:

"Well, you have my number, so if things don't work out, give me a call. Except, I don't want to be the rebound guy, so make sure you have your rebound first before calling."

I think preparing for rejection is better, mentally, than preparing for acceptance. That way I won't be disappointed when she says, "no."
 

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Haha! Yeah, I was thinking about my options, and here they are:

1) ask her out; or
2) never see her again

I've also been thinking about what to say if she rejects me (by telling me she has a boyfriend). Things like this:

"Can't blame a guy for trying, right?"

"Figures. All the good ones are already taken."


Plain and simple... That's the only things you have to Believe whenever you make a move...

"you never know until you know"
 

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So apparently cute receptionist girl isn't closed off to me after all. I went up to her today when there was no one else at the front desk and said, "So, how come you haven't called me?"

She said, "What? You didn't call me." Then she thought for a second and said, "Oh wait, yes you did." I think she un-friended me from facebook because she was angry that I didn't call her over the weekend. However, the last message from me to her asked her to call me back when she had time. And then I waited.

I asked her if she'd like me to call her, she said yes. Then after the dance there was a text from her saying that she does want to hang out, and that she's free on weekends. So I'll call her tomorrow.

BUT... I'll also go visit the cute cashier girl and see what's going on there. Man, my confidence is going through the roof!

I've realized that the title of this thread is a misnomer. I don't need advice on how to flirt. I'm already a pimp.
 

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How to flirt??

You aren't doing bad at all! :)
 

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Guys place so much importance on flirting and I know the following is a bit cliche, but it definitely holds true "it's not so much what you say as how you say it". Basically if you are comfortable with yourself and display a measure of confidence and a good natured disposition then you are already doing well for yourself. Now, you can't really tell someone to "be confident" and expect them to magically do it. Being confident is basically about building social momentum for yourself.

If you're in a bar and you've been off in the corner by yourself drinking, then your confidence will be low, but if you are out in the crowd being social and saying Hi to people and smiling you naturally build your social momentum so if you do decide to approach a girl you're into, it will be so much easier b/c you're already in a friendly and social mood. Confidence to me is more a way of life than something you can switch on and off.
 
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... Being confident is basically about building social momentum for yourself.

... Confidence to me is more a way of life than something you can switch on and off.

Dude, this is so true. You're a genius. Repped.

Oh hey, so I'm gonna call cute receptionist girl at around 11am today, then right after head to the mall to see if cute cashier girl is there.

I thought about this little thing I could do with cute receptionist girl about the whole "un-friending" me thing. I'll bring it up lightly in conversation, just saying that I noticed she un-friended me. Then I can say something like, "Well, you're gonna have to work to get back that facebook friend status." Then she'll probably ask what she has to do. And I'll say, "Dinner. With me."

And then after having the dinner if she brings up the fb friend request, I'll say something like, "You know, it really wasn't about the facebook friend request. I just wanted to spend some time with you." Then her heart will melt. :)
 
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