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I think it's an encouraging sign that most of the guys here seem to be sporting a larger than average package, that would mean that PEing actually works!

I also think that the surveys that cite the 5.7 in. average BPEL range are correct, but I also believe that the average sized sexually active penis size is probably around 6.5 in. The guys who are huge will probably have a bit more of a swagger which makes them more attractive to females and will also find getting partners easier once word gets out. In addition, there are plenty of anecdotal stories of guys on this site who have abstained from sex at one time or another b/c they felt too small, and some of them are even above average sized! That tells me that the average penis that is getting around is certainly gonna be a bit larger than normal.

Finally you have to consider that on the internet, even with anonymity, guys with larger than average stats are going to be more likely to post pics or list stats than those below average.
 

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Im not sure why its so important for some people to believe that there are not many large cocks out there.

This is really silly.

There are certainly millions of very large penises in the world! All over the place. LOTS AND LOTS! There are also millions of average ones and millions of small ones...hundreds of millions of each type actually.

You only have to look on the internet to see pages and pages of photos of men with very large cocks.

I laugh when I hear all the talk about porn using special angles, cameras, etc. Sure they do SOME of that...BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE LARGE PENISES...PERIOD!

DEAL WITH IT PEOPLE. Worry about your own, see if you can enlarge it, and stop worrying about others large units.

YES huge cocks DO EXIST...YES some porn stars have huge units...special camera tricks or not....YES..some women like then and can take them! ITS LIFE..people come in all shapes and sizes.

Yes, there are 10 inch ones out there...yes there are people out there with 7+ inch girth. Most men with HUGE COCKS ARE NOT NOT NOT in porn! If you had a huge cock would you automatically become a porn actor...OF COURSE NOT!

Not everyone with a large penis wants a photo of it on the internet.....! Nothing is really secure or confidential..so its poor form to post your penis unless you want to. Just because someone does not post a pic does not mean that they are lying.

Anyway...Im a doctor...Ive seen them in all sizes....my wife is a doctor....she has seen them in all sizes (yes flaccid I hope).

She sees more than I do...but I have seen at least one over 12 inches...well over...and I have seen others easily 10 inches....FLACID!..easily. I have put catheters in them people. The do exist all over the place.

My wife says she mainly sees (and examines them too) differences in girth, less in length...which makes sense as they are flaccid. She says she has not seen them a foot long....so..but I certainly have seen one. (I dont see them anymore in my job, this was years ago).

So stop arguing about it...there are TONS of huge penises...

Get to work making yours huge! Ha....

If you dont believe it...google something like huge white dicks..and there are some forums where many pics are posted .... not all photoshopped....no way....why bother.
 
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Highly doubtful, you can see for yourself. Head over to lpsg.org, theres a thread about proving 8" + with a measurement pic started by "Mystic Wolf"
.. Less than a handful of guys have proved it I think it was like 3 guys, the thread is over 30 pages.. That forum has ( Members: 633,627, Active Members: 47,346) ..

So according to that thread, It is extremely unlikely that its 1-20..highly unlikely..in fact no way in hell thats true.

I thought t was over 40 pages last time I looked - I guess my memory is on a par with some individuals' measuring technique.

I guess it depends on how strict you want to be, but I saw only one picture that seemed half-way credible, with the subject measured along the top, while standing upright. Even then I couldn't properly see where the ruler started, but it did seem to be legit.

Anyway, your point is an excellent one. If 8" plus penises are as common as the anti-surveys brigade claim, then why is it so hard to find a photo of a properly measured example? Not just on LPSG, but among the billions of pictures posted on the internet. I have seen very very few non-photoshopped, properly measured photos of an 8" NBP. I have NEVER found one significantly larger than this. As I said elsewhere, it sometimes seems as though you can find a picture of anything on the internet EXCEPT a properly measured 10" penis.
 
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Sorry Syphon, but your argument carries no weight with me. I'm not saying that you are wrong - my number 1 in 20 was merely a suggestion. But I must ask you, where are all of the before and afters on this site? I suppose that the lack of photographic evidence is proof enough to surmise that PE does not work, or else it works on the very few individuals who have supported it with photographs? Start a thread demanding before and afters in support of alleged gains and see what comes up.


I simply thought it necesary to refute that statistic (1-20 8" inchers).. but I see it was just a suggestion.

Guys who have grown thru PE most likely didnt take before pics, dont really feel like posting pics of theyre schlongs probably cause they are doing PE they are still in progress of hitting theyre goals and other reasons im not aware of..

Now the guys sporting massive 8" ers, are more than likely to post pics of their dongs esp. on lpsg (large penis support group). Yet they are very rare amongst that forum.

So as far as likening before and after pics to 8" valid measurement pics is really not a good argument imo.

But someone really should start a thread on that topic.. or at least somebody with lots of time and patience should scour every PE forum and grab everyone who has before and after pics, and list them out..lol
 

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I think it's an encouraging sign that most of the guys here seem to be sporting a larger than average package, that would mean that PEing actually works!

I also think that the surveys that cite the 5.7 in. average BPEL range are correct, but I also believe that the average sized sexually active penis size is probably around 6.5 in. The guys who are huge will probably have a bit more of a swagger which makes them more attractive to females and will also find getting partners easier once word gets out. In addition, there are plenty of anecdotal stories of guys on this site who have abstained from sex at one time or another b/c they felt too small, and some of them are even above average sized! That tells me that the average penis that is getting around is certainly gonna be a bit larger than normal.

Finally you have to consider that on the internet, even with anonymity, guys with larger than average stats are going to be more likely to post pics or list stats than those below average.

On the abstinence thing, there are men above average who choose to stay abstinence until they find the woman they want to be with. I was one of them who was sick of having the going-no-where relationships and decided to wait for who now I call my wife. I have also met dude's who admit that they are average but are great in bed sleeping around. It is all in the mid-set of the individual.
 

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BPEL as I would say they were low body fat percentage as men among the gay community are because we have a certain look that most of the D.C. and NYC boys like. My partner is also the same way as far as low body fat (6-8%) and he's larger than me in penis size but only an inch taller in height. I encountered one 10" penis but I never measured it to know for sure, we just messed around before I got into a relationship. The other guys I compared by penis to penis and not an actual ruler. I know my own size and made rough guesses and my life partner did the same. Nothing scientific, so not exacts, but I know what an inch or two looks like approximately. That is not to say I never encountered smaller, because I did and so did he.

"Most guys" you have met were 6 and 7"? Is that BPEL? Even if it was that's a remarkable statistic if accurate. The fact that you have encountered a 10" penis is even more remarkable. None of the contemporary surveys I can recall have ever encountered a penis this size. Even if they do exist they would be staggeringly rare. How did you measure these men?
 

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Im not sure why its so important for some people to believe that there are not many large cocks out there...

It's not a question of belief. It's a question of evidence.

No-one is disputing that large penises exist. What is being disputed is what exactly constitutes large and how rare they are. Those who argue that they know better than the multiple surveys that have been conducted need to start backing up their vehement assertions with credible evidence.



This is really silly.

No. What is silly is believing unsubstantiated anecdotes, especially when they are directly contradicted by the substantiated conclusions of credible surveys.

There are certainly millions of very large penises in the world! All over the place. LOTS AND LOTS! There are also millions of average ones and millions of small ones...hundreds of millions of each type actually...

This is a rather meaningless statement. What do you mean by "large" for example? Of course there are millions of penises that could be described as small, average and large - but what is the relative frequency of each category?

You only have to look on the internet to see pages and pages of photos of men with very large cocks....

Oh for goodness sake. Do you unquestioningly believe photos posted on the internet? Find me ONE properly measured non-photoshopped photo of a 10" penis.

I laugh when I hear all the talk about porn using special angles, cameras, etc. Sure they do SOME of that...BUT SOME PEOPLE JUST HAVE LARGE PENISES...PERIOD!...

And I laugh when people believe what they see in porn. The entire industry is built on fantasy - or if you like, deliberate distortion of the truth.

Big-dick porn productions routinely use numerous tricks to exaggerate the size of the male talent's penises...PERIOD. You can find female porn stars who will admit that most actors are not that much larger than average.


YES huge cocks DO EXIST...YES some porn stars have huge units...special camera tricks or not....YES..some women like then and can take them!...

Unfortunately for you, Caps lock does not turn your statements into facts.

ITS LIFE..people come in all shapes and sizes...

Then find me someone 12 feet tall, or someone with ten foot-long arms, or someone with a head-shaped like a teapot.

Yes, there are 10 inch ones out there...yes there are people out there with 7+ inch girth...

Repeatedly insisting something is true does not prove that it is. In order to do that you need to produce some credible evidence. Supposition and assertion is not evidence, no matter how often you resort to it.

Most men with HUGE COCKS ARE NOT NOT NOT in porn!...

Assuming that by "huge cocks" you are referring to sizes for which there is no credible evidence, then you would expect to have seen at least one among the torrent of films that are produced every year.



Not everyone with a large penis wants a photo of it on the internet...

No-one is asking everyone to post a photo. Just one, solitary, measly photo would be enough. It doesn't seem to be too difficult to find compromising photos of people showing parts of their body, or doing other things which might be potentially embarrassing. If people are willing to post pictures of themselves having sex with small children, it seems remarkable that every guy with a 10" plus penis is too shy and retiring to post pictures of it, or that no-one has ever sought to do it without their permission.

Just because someone does not post a pic does not mean that they are lying...

No. But it does mean that their claims are unsubstantiated and therefore can't be used as evidence for the existence of some of the monstrous sizes claimed.

Anyway...Im a doctor...Ive seen them in all sizes....my wife is a doctor....she has seen them in all sizes (yes flaccid I hope).

She sees more than I do...but I have seen at least one over 12 inches...well over...and I have seen others easily 10 inches....FLACID!..easily. I have put catheters in them people. The do exist all over the place...

You and your wife are doctors? And you claim to have seen flaccid penises that are larger than any erect penis found by any credible survey, anywhere, " all over the place" ? Perhaps you should publish your findings. After all, your colleagues in the medical profession are embarrassing themselves by producing inaccurate surveys indicating that such sizes only exist in the realms of fantasy.

Given that condom companies have commissioned surveys and have never produced results that remotely match your claims, I suggest you contact them too. After all, one of the principal reasons they conducted such surveys in the first place was to manufacture condoms in sizes that would protect the largest number of individuals to the greatest degree, while still being able to make a profit. Since their findings have been blown out of the water by your years of exemplary medical practice, I think your hippocratic oath alone suggests you should help them correct their error.

My wife says she mainly sees (and examines them too) differences in girth, less in length...which makes sense as they are flaccid. She says she has not seen them a foot long....so..but I certainly have seen one. (I dont see them anymore in my job, this was years ago).

So stop arguing about it...there are TONS of huge penises...

I don't mean to be rude, but is English your first language? It's just that the way you marshal your facts and arguments and your grasp of written grammar, punctuation and syntax don't seem to correspond with someone who has had the years of higher education required to practise medicine in English-speaking countries.


If you dont believe it...google something like huge white dicks..and there are some forums where many pics are posted .... not all photoshopped....no way....why bother.

Been there, done that. Never once seen a credible photo of a 10" plus penis.

Sorry.
 

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Agreed! My partner and I were the same way after dating before we got together. We are both well endowed and abstained from sex because we wanted an LTR not a FB or one night stand. No thanks!

On the abstinence thing, there are men above average who choose to stay abstinence until they find the woman they want to be with. I was one of them who was sick of having the going-no-where relationships and decided to wait for who now I call my wife. I have also met dude's who admit that they are average but are great in bed sleeping around. It is all in the mid-set of the individual.
 

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Sorry Syphon, but your argument (contrasting the virtual absence of credible photos of 8" NBP penises on LPSG, with claims as to the frequency of such penises in the general population) carries no weight with me. I'm not saying that you are wrong - my number 1 in 20 was merely a suggestion. But I must ask you, where are all of the before and afters on this site? I suppose that the lack of photographic evidence is proof enough to surmise that PE does not work, or else it works on the very few individuals who have supported it with photographs? Start a thread demanding before and afters in support of alleged gains and see what comes up.

This is a false analogy. You are assuming that the populations and their asociated motivations and attitudes to their penises are the same on LPSG and PE sites.

LPSG is a site designed for guys who are unusually large. It is also a "show-off site" - you only need browse for a short while to realise that members are far more willing to post pictures of themselves than on most PE forums, where by definition many members will have some sort of issue with their penis size.

In spite of the huge number of photos on LPSG in general - and not just in the thread in question - it is very rare to find a credible photo clearly showing AN 8" NBP. It is staggeringly rare to find a photo of a penis bigger than this and to my knowledge a credible photo of a 10" penis has never been posted.
 

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It's not a question of belief. It's a question of evidence.

No-one is disputing that large penises exist. What is being disputed is what exactly constitutes large and how rare they are. Those who argue that they know better than the multiple surveys that have been conducted need to start backing up their vehement assertions with credible evidence.





No. What is silly is believing unsubstantiated anecdotes, especially when they are directly contradicted by the substantiated conclusions of credible surveys.



This is a rather meaningless statement. What do you mean by "large" for example? Of course there are millions of penises that could be described as small, average and large - but what is the relative frequency of each category?



Oh for goodness sake. Do you unquestioningly believe photos posted on the internet? Find me ONE properly measured non-photoshopped photo of a 10" penis.



And I laugh when people believe what they see in porn. The entire industry is built on fantasy - or if you like, deliberate distortion of the truth.

Big-dick porn productions routinely use numerous tricks to exaggerate the size of the male talent's penises...PERIOD. You can find female porn stars who will admit that most actors are not that much larger than average.




Unfortunately for you, Caps lock does not turn your statements into facts.



Then find me someone 12 feet tall, or someone with ten foot-long arms, or someone with a head-shaped like a teapot.



Repeatedly insisting something is true does not prove that it is. In order to do that you need to produce some credible evidence. Supposition and assertion is not evidence, no matter how often you resort to it.



Assuming that by "huge cocks" you are referring to sizes for which there is no credible evidence, then you would expect to have seen at least one among the torrent of films that are produced every year.





No-one is asking everyone to post a photo. Just one, solitary, measly photo would be enough. It doesn't seem to be too difficult to find compromising photos of people showing parts of their body, or doing other things which might be potentially embarrassing. If people are willing to post pictures of themselves having sex with small children, it seems remarkable that every guy with a 10" plus penis is too shy and retiring to post pictures of it, or that no-one has ever sought to do it without their permission.



No. But it does mean that their claims are unsubstantiated and therefore can't be used as evidence for the existence of some of the monstrous sizes claimed.



You and your wife are doctors? And you claim to have seen flaccid penises that are larger than any erect penis found by any credible survey, anywhere, " all over the place" ? Perhaps you should publish your findings. After all, your colleagues in the medical profession are embarrassing themselves by producing inaccurate surveys indicating that such sizes only exist in the realms of fantasy.

Given that condom companies have commissioned surveys and have never produced results that remotely match your claims, I suggest you contact them too. After all, one of the principal reasons they conducted such surveys in the first place was to manufacture condoms in sizes that would protect the largest number of individuals to the greatest degree, while still being able to make a profit. Since their findings have been blown out of the water by your years of exemplary medical practice, I think your hippocratic oath alone suggests you should help them correct their error.



I don't mean to be rude, but is English your first language? It's just that the way you marshal your facts and arguments and your grasp of written grammar, punctuation and syntax don't seem to correspond with someone who has had the years of higher education required to practise medicine in English-speaking countries.




Been there, done that. Never once seen a credible photo of a 10" plus penis.

Sorry.


This was entertaining :) Great stuff.
 

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Assuming a guy measures accurately, all he has to do is tell a girl he has an 8 inch dick and he'll be banging her in no time.

I have been well over 8 inches for quite some time but I know the world doesn't work that way buddy. I can assure you for the more "slutty" girls it was a pleasant surprise but most young girls don't even know how to react.
 

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It seems like this debate pops up on here or thunders every week. I'll just post my thoughts on why this phenomena exists. Feel free to agree or disagree but these are just some ideas. No one really knows for sure the exact average penis size.

I trust most of the studies when they conclude the average size is somewhere around 5.5ish. However, I think this number is NBPEL. BPEL is great for tracking your progress but in the real world people only care about NBPEL. I have no idea what the average fat pad is but I'd guess around .75 inches? Putting the average penis at 6.25 BPEL which seems pretty reasonable to me.

Even with the best intentions, guys will tend to measure incorrectly. The first 6 months of PE I was measuring while lying down and with the ruler to the side of my penis. This made me believe I was .7 inches larger than I actually was. I've seen guys pressing their erection downwards, measuring across their penis with a tape measure, using a measuring tape that isn't completely tight. IMO this is all just cheating yourself.

You are never going to see a perfect distribution of penises. "A group of your friends at a party" is already a population that is likely to have a larger penis on average.
On average this population will:
- Be in better shape which means less fat pad
- Be more confident than average since they are out socializing
- More likely to be white or black than Asian or Hispanic (blah blah blah all races are the same). I believe there is a small difference in size when it comes to race, as much as I hate to admit it. I'm half Asian
-and on top of this, only the biggest guys there are going to whip it out in public. Throw in porn and women's inability to guesstimate and its hard not to believe the average is 7 NBPEL.
 

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drabman, my wife is former nurse and has seen many of penis' working in a hospital and she told me that most flaccid penises are about the same only few noticeable larger or smaller. My wife's ex-husband was too long (she said like 9+) although not as girthly as I am (shapes and sizes always vary). She said that he would go to far and go past the cervix which would hurt like hell (what a dick and I told him that). But really what is huge depends on the woman's preference. Some woman like it super hung, some hung, some average, and ironically, some below average.
 

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So you are saying ,guys with 8" plus get 5 times as many partners, as I said I don't buy it. Now guys with money /status on the other hand lol.

No. and thats a personal choice I do not want to be a man whore.
I rather be the stud muffin any day, it's better then being a man whore.
 

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I trust most of the studies when they conclude the average size is somewhere around 5.5ish. However, I think this number is NBPEL.

Medical studies an serious surveys use bpel bacause fat or skin is not a factor.
 

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You are never going to see a perfect distribution of penises. "A group of your friends at a party" is already a population that is likely to have a larger penis on average...

No they aren't. It depends who your friends are and how diverse they might be.

On average this population will:
- Be in better shape which means less fat pad...

My friends are in better shape than average? I hate to insult them, because they're very nice human beings, but to suggest that they are in better shape than average is nonsensical. The general proposition makes no sense either, since all sorts of people go to parties - although to some extent it depends on what your definition of a party is.

Be more confident than average since they are out socializing...

Excuse me? Are you suggesting that the average person is not confident enough to socialise? This is absurd.

(They are) More likely to be white or black than Asian or Hispanic (blah blah blah all races are the same)...

Again, this is a wild generalisation - it depends where you live. "Blah, blah, blah" all you want - there is little or no credible evidence of a racial correlation with erect penis size. Even if this were true, your assumption that the population of all the surveys conducted on penis size is significantly different to the general population of the majority white area where I assume you live, is speculation. The thing about surveys that give a BPEL in the 5.5 inch range, is that they have been conducted in specific countries - studies of Indian and Israeli soldiers for example - and they are all fairly consistent.

I believe there is a small difference in size when it comes to race, as much as I hate to admit it. I'm half Asian...

Fair enough. However since there is little credible evidence, I don't believe there is.

...and on top of this, only the biggest guys there are going to whip it out in public....

Which suggests that the average size might be even smaller than 5.5

...Throw in porn and women's inability to guesstimate and its hard not to believe the average is 7 NBPEL.

Exactly right.
 
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I seriously doubt that the average penis is 5.5"BPEL
 

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I seriously doubt that the average penis is 5.5"BPEL

Believe what you like. If you choose to ignore the only credible evidence on the subject in favour of supposition and conjecture then you have the perfect right to do that.

These two sex researchers/journalists/authors, including the fairly well-renkowned Betty Dodson, would appear to concur with the surveys though - assuming that the average figure of 4" which they gleaned from surveys and which they claim matches their own experience is NBP. Interestingly they say they've encountered "many" penises even smaller and would be reluctant to sleep with a guy with an 8" penis.


"What is The Average Penis Size?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYguQ4JYriI


How Big is a Big Penis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf4kW_UkRIo&feature=related
 

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drabman, my wife is former nurse ... She said that (her ex-husband) would go to far and go past the cervix which would hurt like hell ...


???

She was a nurse? And she doesn't realise that many men can go past the cervix? After all a gynaecologist can touch it with a finger. It sounds as though she's confused the cervix with the cul-de-sac - a common mistake on PE forums.
 

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Believe what you like. If you choose to ignore the only credible evidence on the subject in favour of supposition and conjecture then you have the perfect right to do that.

These two sex researchers/journalists/authors, including the fairly well-renkowned Betty Dodson, would appear to concur with the surveys though - assuming that the average figure of 4" which they gleaned from surveys and which they claim matches their own experience is NBP. Interestingly they say they've encountered "many" penises even smaller and would be reluctant to sleep with a guy with an 8" penis.


"What is The Average Penis Size?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYguQ4JYriI


How Big is a Big Penis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf4kW_UkRIo&feature=related

LOL what credible evidence?? And that would make a minimum of 75% of PEers starting stats above average to well above average.