why should I jelq? why not just do girth and length exercise?

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Curious on why jelq? Why not just focus on and do length exercise's with all the different types of stretching and pulls. Than do girth exercise's with all the types of squeezes and holds, plus uli jelqs. Than you'd be able to focus and increase the intensity for each. The jelq works both but the intensity doesn't seem to be as great. And I know in the gym high intensity training is what gets u size. In the gym u build size much more if u have high intenstiy (weight) low volume (sets) and right amount of rest (time off). Jelqing I feel like I'm doing intense cardio for my penis(like a runner- but runners don't develop muscles quickly, very slowly over time, not a size work out) so I feel like jelqing is more of a condition exercise which great. But it takes away from pure ize exercise's. And it intense enough where I feel like it easily can help overwork you penis if you do that plus a good amount of length and girth exercise's. This is just my opnion. I know everything about gettin huge in the gym. Trying to do the same for my penis. :) your opnions, thoughts???
 

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Have you done the p90 routine yet? it has stretches and jelqs, and most people get length and girth, so why do one or the other when you can get both in one routine. Well some like to get length first then girth or the othe way around, but getting both seems to kill 2 birds with 1 stone
 

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I ment than why jelg though? Why not just do specific length exercise's than girth exercise's right afterwards. Jelqing does kill 2 birds in one stone but the intensity in my opnion is not high enough and the volume to much. High intenisty and low volume is key into getting size in the gym. Jelqing itself seems more like a condition exercise. Why not do stretches than a specific girth exercise such as a squeeze of some sort. If your really trying to develop size in your legs your not going to run up hill for 30min. Your going to do leg extenions and than leg curls.
 

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Jelqing is NOT a conditioning exercise. When done correctly it is one of the most effective exercises out there.
I made most of my early gains with light stretching and jelqing only.
 

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Ofcourse your going to get early quick gains. Anybody who adds stress to an area of the body is going to trigger a response. If you cause stress to your body that's never been done before it immdieately tries to adapt to it and grow. Your body think its for survival. If you've never worked out before your going to get fast quick early gains even if your exerciseing improperly. Plus just because you jelq doesn't mean its the best way. Pe has only been around a couple of year. The exercise world much longer but 20 10 5years ago it has completely changed and improved even from 5years ago. I realize now my foot ball coach was an idiot. A kid can work out in the gym and get to a certain size in a year. But if he works out correctly it can take him 6 months. Just because you see results doesn't mean its the best, the fastest, the safest. The trick is to keep the gains coming. By seeing how long it take ppl to sometimes to gain just an inch boggles my mind and makes me question. If we used the same concept as we do for pe in the gym it would take forever to get huge.
 

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‪Drew Baye T21C 2009 [Full] -- High Intensity Training Explained‬‏ - YouTube this convention vidoe explains why you want to high intenity traing and the fastest best way to get huge. Watch it if your cuirous. Very informative and will probably reverse your beliefs in the gym. Bodybuilding.com - What Is The Best Doggcrapp Workout? this is one high intensity traing program for the gym. I agree with it somewhat but you can def get some great ideas. And its only for someone that's been working out for a while. Or at least well.
 

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Well the muscle is not skeletal muscle like the rest of your body. It's smooth muscle and needs exercised differently.
Jelqing does work, and leads to great gains. Many people only stretch and jelq and gain in both length and girth.
Yes, jelqing is not the best for everyone, but for most people it is.
PE has been around for a long time man. Not super long, but not a couple of years.
Please fix your spelling and grammar and don't talk to me like I don't know what I'm talking about.


Jelqing can also be good for gaining length.
 

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Haha yo take a chill pill. First of all I'm not attacking you or talking like you don't know anything. I'm trying to have a civilized discussion. All I'm doing is questioning and puting my reason behind it. Pe may have been around a long time but not in the medical field, not yet. Or at least on a large scale with scientific studies and research. That's why I'm questioning. I'm just curiou that's all. I like to know. And yes I know the penis is not a skeletal muscle. That's why I'm asking. That's why I want to know more. You could be absoultely fucking right, I just like to know why. For me not enough studies and scientific methods. Its good to question, jut because someone tells me something doesn't mean its the best, even from guys with expierence. In the exercise field it has totally changed from 10 years ago. Stuff ppl's dad learned I'm sure are not the best way to work out anymore. Same could be with pe. And about my grammer, its off my shitty blackberry with sticky keys. So chill son and may you get your dream dick. Good luck
 

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Xsmiles, Your penis and your biceps are two completly diffrent things, you better take things slow or you are going to learn the hard way with no gains and an injury, you better listen to people that have actually made mistakes learned and are now making gains so you dont have to make the same mistakes, but hey if you wanna just make and account here in june 2011 just starting PE and start off with really intense excersizes like Uli and erect bends because you have this idea that that is best go for it !
 

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cause they feel nice
 

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NP is giving you advice that is solid, your dick and your biceps do not grow in tbhe sam way. period
you are not ready for advanced exercises if you cant do the jeque well enough to feel the great effects it can have.
your also not the only weight lifter at this gym. yo want to mess your dork up than donttake advice, but dont ask for it then tell the people who are giving you avice to take a chill pill.
you should read up on the exercises a bit more and work on your technique and also work on your social skills whileyour at it
 

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Yes it can and it's best done at low erection level 30-40%.

Oh man, and I was mad at myself for not getting enough erection during the Jelqs :\
Should just stay low..
 

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Oh man, and I was mad at myself for not getting enough erection during the Jelqs :\
Should just stay low..

I've been told by other PEers if you jelque at a low erection level it will help get length and high erection will help get girth. Maybe you could PM a mod to get their opinion then update in the thread.
 

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If you want to keep comparing this to a gym literally...
When you first start lifting, you don't dive into put 315 on bench and do a 10 other excercises targetting the chest. In that case, you're starting out with too much intensity, risk injury, and probably find little gains. The best thing to go when starting weightlifting is to find where u are with weight and reps and augment upon that routine with time and gains. For most people, the best gains are through compound movements that focus on the entire body. Like squats. The jelq is like the squat. Leng extensions and curls would equate to that seperate routine ur talking about. This is just how I see it. Id stick with cimpound stuff initially then explore as I learned more. However, if this doesn't work for your body, then fuck it and try something else(an intense multi exercise or non jelq routine.) Sry if grammer is a little off. Typing from phone.
 

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My problem with Uli's, compression holds and other squeezes is that your blood is static while performing them. When you jelq it is more dynamic. Blood is forced in then out, repeatedly. I am of the belief that dynamic blood flow is more conducive to cell change than static blood is. Many people have only experienced temporary gains when using pumps (I have never used one, but many have said this - many have made claim to permanent gain also), and I believe it is this reason it doesn't often work long term.