Too much moderation?
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Pirate
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We each have different areas to which we pay particular attention. Those areas over lap. For example, I look for questions about kegels, DO, MMO and similar issues. Newer Mods tend to focus on greeting new members. Some Mods enjoy the non-PE areas of the gym far more than I do.
I understand that, and in fact it would be fair to consider you the "experts" in your respective fields, right? So if there was a thread on kegels going around, your input would not only be appropriate but also necessary to ensure that the correct advice and information was provided.
However, who is the expert in "the gym?" Is there a political or religious guru? There obviously is none, as in most cases there is no right answer anyway. So in my opinion there is no need for moderation there unless, as I stated earlier, name calling or or other offensive situations arise. And as I also mentioned, that is not to say that moderators wouldn't be welcomed to give their opinions - that would be awfully silly.
Am I missing something?
Batwoman
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Well, one problem with leaving the Gym forum unmoderated would that some really offensive threads could be posted there and live on forever, and put the site in jeopardy. Search engines troll us, what would happen if we ended up with a bunch of flaming racist threads there, for example? We might attract more and more people who are not interested in PE but just go anywhere that racism is being spouted. Or wacko religious or anti-religious views. I don't see any of that as a good thing.
More immediately, we also find (based on past experience) that arguments on one thread often spill over onto others. When people get heated with each other on one forum, they often start sniping at each other's views on other forums and on other threads. If we let members duke it out until they get flaming mad with each other on the Gym forum, it is extremely likely that it will spill over onto the PE threads.
In general, it just seems like good sense to try to keep the political and religious threads (and associated rhetoric) to a minimum here. And to keep blatantly racist/sexist/homophobic threads off the boards here as well. Those topics all seem to be hot-spots that get people riled up, and detract from the purpose of the site: PE and sex-related topics and advice.
More immediately, we also find (based on past experience) that arguments on one thread often spill over onto others. When people get heated with each other on one forum, they often start sniping at each other's views on other forums and on other threads. If we let members duke it out until they get flaming mad with each other on the Gym forum, it is extremely likely that it will spill over onto the PE threads.
In general, it just seems like good sense to try to keep the political and religious threads (and associated rhetoric) to a minimum here. And to keep blatantly racist/sexist/homophobic threads off the boards here as well. Those topics all seem to be hot-spots that get people riled up, and detract from the purpose of the site: PE and sex-related topics and advice.
Batwoman I agree with most of your post and I think it is filled with a pretty good argument for keeping "the gym" moderated. But I think you are exaggerating the damage that is caused by those threads. With the Republican Primary and General election coming up in the next year and a half, not to mention this whole 2012 fiasco, you're not being realistic if you think political discussions will not occur. And like I said, if racist/sexist/homophobic threads emerge, that would constitute "offensive," which I suggested would be grounds for moderation. However, political debate is not.
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We get a lot of spill over actually.
Some people just don't like each other and need to argue. Arguing through PM's (which is what we suggest) tends to never happen, so they bounce from topic to topic just berating each others opinions.
Some people just don't like each other and need to argue. Arguing through PM's (which is what we suggest) tends to never happen, so they bounce from topic to topic just berating each others opinions.
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There are thousands of members here at the gym... its the same very small cluster(count them on one hand) of people that complain about how things are done here.. There are roughly 600 members active here everyday....
If moderation was bad or corrupt more would be chiming in...esp since we aren't heavy handed with banning so it is safe to express your opinions(as long as they aren't bashing, name calling crossing the general line of conduct then you are safe)
As moderators we are always fine tuning and discussing things, trying to improve... We can't please everyone, but considering how few are complaining and the numbers i don't think there is an issue with how things are done here.. JMO
If moderation was bad or corrupt more would be chiming in...esp since we aren't heavy handed with banning so it is safe to express your opinions(as long as they aren't bashing, name calling crossing the general line of conduct then you are safe)
As moderators we are always fine tuning and discussing things, trying to improve... We can't please everyone, but considering how few are complaining and the numbers i don't think there is an issue with how things are done here.. JMO
Not just would other users be complaining, we'd have the site owners complaining to us about how things are being run.
Well I think keeping them to a minimum means not have reiterative threads. Its enough to see people posting about the same old problem with their penises when they could easily look it up, but I'd personally rather not see several threads occurring at the same time about how Obame stinks or Bill O'Reilly is wrong. Arguments should be intelligently argued and I know if any of those threads sprouted up we'd have several members posting about how the OP is just emotionally charged.
I've got to disagree with you guys on this one. There is plenty of PE info and new PE threads and posts on here everyday which is the main point of the site but I think the non-PE related threads is what seperates this from the other PE sites which to me seem very boring in comparison and although I'm a member of two others this is the only site I ever use.
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I understand why the gym needs to be monitored. I do know religious and political threads can go way crazy. If people want to go into those subjects there are many forums boards out there to go to. As far as religious boards, if you stick to a board that is strictly say Christian, you will have to keep your posts in line with those beliefs. There are boards that are multi-faith and they tend to not be as nazi like. The Christian board I went to had a member that was alpha female and she ran everything. She had loyal followers, more like a gang/thugs both male and female. Worst board I have ever been on.
locking threads is the worst possible scenario.A person goes to a bit of debate and it gets locked because it "might" "get rude or whatever.There are just too many mods and i knew this wasn't going in the right direction.
In the Ron Paul thread there were 2 posters who were making fun of it.
1.first one said "does he PE" although it was clear it was in the GYM section where THERE IS NO talk about PE.
2.second said Ron Jeremy is more important than Ron Paul,well sorry but i just can't overlook that post and say that's the most ridicilous thing i have ever heard in my life.
SImple if you don't like it or don't know anything about it please don't post in it.If those posts occur just delete them.
In the Ron Paul thread there were 2 posters who were making fun of it.
1.first one said "does he PE" although it was clear it was in the GYM section where THERE IS NO talk about PE.
2.second said Ron Jeremy is more important than Ron Paul,well sorry but i just can't overlook that post and say that's the most ridicilous thing i have ever heard in my life.
SImple if you don't like it or don't know anything about it please don't post in it.If those posts occur just delete them.
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