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Really? The studies are bone pressed? I am like 6.7" in length as well bone pressed, something really close to that figure anyway. You mean to tell me the studies were bone pressed? That can't be right.
The studies were most definitely NOT bone-pressed. Anyone who tries to say that the studies were bone-pressed have spent way too much time at the PEGym, as this term was essentially invented by the PE community. That said, I believe OP is average but with some dedication can reach the above average range in a reasonable amount of time.
 

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The studies were most definitely NOT bone-pressed. Anyone who tries to say that the studies were bone-pressed have spent way too much time at the PEGym, as this term was essentially invented by the PE community. That said, I believe OP is average but with some dedication can reach the above average range in a reasonable amount of time.
Why would they not be bone pressed?
 

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The studies were most definitely NOT bone-pressed. Anyone who tries to say that the studies were bone-pressed have spent way too much time at the PEGym, as this term was essentially invented by the PE community. That said, I believe OP is average but with some dedication can reach the above average range in a reasonable amount of time.
The only studies that are not bone-pressed are not ones that are not recognized by the scientific and medical community as being accurate. Even if the PE community created the term bone-pressed, that doesn't mean they created the process of measuring. The method of measuring length from tip of the glans to the pelvic bone is even more valuable now with the vast majority of overweight people.

To think that these doctors and scientists don't understand that excess body fat can hide inches of the penis, and assume that no matter what, your length is only that of which you can see, is simply asinine. If they were indeed all done in NBP fashion, the average would be far lower than is recognized. But of course by your logic, since the PE community also made up the term non-bone pressed, that measurement method must not be used either.

I guess people of average length, but have 1-2" of fat pad or more, are medically considered to have micro-penis, huh?
 
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The only studies that are not bone-pressed are not ones that are not recognized by the scientific and medical community as being accurate. Even if the PE community created the term bone-pressed, that doesn't mean they created the process of measuring. The method of measuring length from tip of the glans to the pelvic bone is even more valuable now with the vast majority of overweight people.

To think that these doctors and scientists don't understand that excess body fat can hide inches of the penis, and assume that no matter what, your length is only that of which you can see, is simply asinine. If they were indeed all done in NBP fashion, the average would be far lower than is recognized. But of course by your logic, since the PE community also made up the term non-bone pressed, that measurement method must not be used either.

I guess people of average length, but have 1-2" of fat pad or more, are medically considered to have micro-penis, huh?

There is no evidence to back up that any of these studies were done "bone-pressed". Most people judge a penis by whats visible. Condom manufacturers make condoms based on visible penis. Obviously if someone is being measured by a doctor or nurse and they have a mound of flesh covering their penis then by all means push it back and take the measurement. And, while pushing all the way into the bone might be a "true" measurement of anatomical penis, it is mostly phantom invisible penis until you PE enough to 'pull it out'. If a girl were to take out a ruler and measure your penis and its 5" along the top, are you going to argue with her that you have an extra inch of hidden penis beneath your 'fat pad'? While you may be right from a physical perspective, most people count visible penis as the penis.
 

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There is no evidence to back up that any of these studies were done "bone-pressed". Most people judge a penis by whats visible. Condom manufacturers make condoms based on visible penis. Obviously if someone is being measured by a doctor or nurse and they have a mound of flesh covering their penis then by all means push it back and take the measurement. Pushing all the way into the bone might be a "true" measurement of anatomical penis, but it is mostly phantom invisible penis until you PE enough to 'pull it out'. If a girl were to take out a ruler and measure your penis and its 5" along the top, are you going to argue with her that you have an extra inch of hidden penis beneath your 'fat pad'? While you may be right from a physical perspective, most people count visible penis as the penis.
Got any proof to back up that the studies are not what is known as bone-pressed? There's a reason why condom manufacturers make condoms based on visible penile length too. A condom is of no use to what is behind the pelvic fat pad.

Most people may count visible penis as the penis, but that doesn't make it what is medically considered the true penile length.
 

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I wish someone could contact somebody at LifeStyles and solve this debate (at least for the Cancun study).
 

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I wish someone could contact somebody at LifeStyles and solve this debate (at least for the Cancun study).
Pointless really. I just searched their site and Trojan's, and both basically say there's no point in measuring average. Both say by rule of thumb, 5" is below average, 6.2" is above average, so a 7" long condom will work for all. Girth is more important to take averages of.
 

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Hey everyone iv just joined the site tonight and im very excited and optimistic about building a bigger penis. For a few years now iv had insecurities about my size and have tried to put them to the back of my mind and although i apparently fall under 'Average' for size in most polls.. i have doubts that is the true average and il tell you why in a second.

1st of all i measured my penis two days ago and it was 5.8inches long and 4.75 inches thick but after only doing two days of jelqs and some stretching in the shower i measured at 6.1inches long and 4.75inches thick.. this i most definatly due to the fact that my erections were REALLY hard the second time i measured and im curious as to why this is...? i doubt my penis has actually grown in two days.. its just the fact iv got better harder erections.. so even if PE doesnt work for me at least i know it works at making me really hard for my future GF.

and the reason im asking about 6 inches being a true average is because iv a girlfriend cheat on me in the past sayin my dick wasnt big enough and also i slept with alot of girls at uni and got a bad name as a player but aparently they were also saying i had a small dick.

would be glad for any responses.. .also how long do you rekon it would take me to reach 7inches?x


7" would be great but do no forget GIRTH thats what will fill them up and give them better pleasure.
A nice 7"length X 5" girth would do very well with the ladies and your own confidence !
Good luck.
 

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There is no evidence to back up that any of these studies were done "bone-pressed". Most people judge a penis by whats visible. Condom manufacturers make condoms based on visible penis. Obviously if someone is being measured by a doctor or nurse and they have a mound of flesh covering their penis then by all means push it back and take the measurement. And, while pushing all the way into the bone might be a "true" measurement of anatomical penis, it is mostly phantom invisible penis until you PE enough to 'pull it out'. If a girl were to take out a ruler and measure your penis and its 5" along the top, are you going to argue with her that you have an extra inch of hidden penis beneath your 'fat pad'? While you may be right from a physical perspective, most people count visible penis as the penis.


If you read the methodology on these studies, while they might not use the term bp is what they are doing.
"Most people" who are these?
No ,condom makers make condoms well longer than the average bpel for a reason. If they based on nbpel they would be smaller than they are and growing smaller all the time as guys get fatter.
If you have vigorous sex ,you will use bpel nothing "phantom " about it.
Who are these" most people" where the girl routinely measures your dick nbpel? You ought to have a look at these "most people" you are mixing with.
 

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Got any proof to back up that the studies are not what is known as bone-pressed? There's a reason why condom manufacturers make condoms based on visible penile length too. A condom is of no use to what is behind the pelvic fat pad.

Most people may count visible penis as the penis, but that doesn't make it what is medically considered the true penile length.

Again, most condoms are a lot longer than average bpel , if they were based on nbpem they would be shorter. Also have condoms grown shorter in recent years as guys have grown fatter ? No and they would have if they were based on nbpel.
A condom has no use for what is behind the pad , you must have sex a lot less vigorously than I do.

Again who are these most people ?
 

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Again, most condoms are a lot longer than average bpel , if they were based on nbpem they would be shorter. Also have condoms grown shorter in recent years as guys have grown fatter ? No and they would have if they were based on nbpel.
A condom has no use for what is behind the pad , you must have sex a lot less vigorously than I do.

Again who are these most people ?
You asking me, or jetsetter439?
 

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At 6.7" bone pressed, you're well above average in length, girth still average. Those studies done to get the average are all bone-pressed length. It's the only true way of measuring the penis, since differing body fat percentages can affect how much actually shows. During sex, you typically also use more than what you can visibly see.


Hi DemOne!



"During sex, you typically also use more than what you can visibly see."


Sorry, bro, but how´s that?

I honestly thought that only the NBPEL part gets in the vagina...!

How much more can be used? Do you know? Would you explain me how does that happens, please?


Thanks!
 

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You can press down in sex and some of the fat pad goes down.

Hey, Edge!

Yeah, I know that. :) But my question was in a situation where one doesn´t press down the fat pad.
 

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Well, if you're dick is long enough that you don't use the stuff behind the fat pad, who cares? Still usable. Just not for you your partner.
 

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Hey, Edge!

Yeah, I know that. :) But my question was in a situation where one doesn´t press down the fat pad.
In that situation, one does not use more. Doesn't make it untrue for those who do.
 

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Well, if you're dick is long enough that you don't use the stuff behind the fat pad, who cares? Still usable. Just not for you your partner.

Loool! That´s for sure. But I guess it´s not my case. 6.45" is not bad, but those extra 0.65" would be great! :)
 
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Loool! That´s for sure. But I guess it´s not my case. 6.45" is not bad, but those extra 0.65" would be great! :)
Go run around some and burn those calories, you'll get some of it to show.
 

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Go run around some and burn those calories, you'll get some of it to show.


Heheheh! Well, I weight about 137lb and my height is 5´7''. I´m kind of thin and athletic. :)
 

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If you read the methodology on these studies, while they might not use the term bp is what they are doing.
"Most people" who are these?
No ,condom makers make condoms well longer than the average bpel for a reason. If they based on nbpel they would be smaller than they are and growing smaller all the time as guys get fatter.
If you have vigorous sex ,you will use bpel nothing "phantom " about it.
Who are these" most people" where the girl routinely measures your dick nbpel? You ought to have a look at these "most people" you are mixing with.
so when the oft-cited Lifestyles condom survey was done and the average was found to be around 5.50", you are saying these were bone-pressed measurements? this basically puts the visible penis average at around 4.75" - 5" nbpel.
 

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so when the oft-cited Lifestyles condom survey was done and the average was found to be around 5.50", you are saying these were bone-pressed measurements? this basically puts the visible penis average at around 4.75" - 5" nbpel.
NBP average may actually be smaller than that these days.