How common are permanent injuries?

[Newbert_zero]

My dicks been turtled up for a month and I've basically read this whole subforum by now and alot of these stories are scaring the sh*t out of me. Is it really that easy to permanetly fuck up your dick? Youd think evolution would come up with a way to make our dicks indestructible by now. But it almost seems like you can kill your dick with just a few to many jelqs.

 

[Unit]

Be calm, as CUSP82 likes to say, "Unless you hit it with a hammer", it's not going to be permanent. My number one priority is my penis health. A huge dick would just be an ornament if it didn't work and I like using mine. I think it was PESG that said "Less is more". You don't have to go crazy to get gains. Go easy and gentle as you learn your techniques and work up to more time and pressure as you gain confidence and learn how your penis responds. You'll do just fine if you take your time. Good warm ups help a whole lot in the prevention of injury. If you're doing something and it hurts stop. Think about picking one of the simpler beginner routines to start with, they are designed to help safely condition the penis without injury. Learn and watch your PIs they will become your guide. The penis is an amazing organ and can recover from tremendous insults but it does take time to heal, so be nice to the little guy and get started. :Cool2:

 

[moxsum]

hey man.. the turtling/firm flaccid stuff is not permanent.. you ahve done no permanent damage to your penis.. its just a contraction.. it can take time and rest to heal though.. take it easy for a while.. and stay calm.. its not permanent!!

 

[LostInTorture]

Disregard everything he said about your penis being almost indestructible...

All I ever did was newbie routine in a hot bathtub and it permanently fucked my life up beyond repair.
And there are plenty of stories like mine and other who are less severe.
The question you got to ask your self is: are you willing to die for a few cm?
Thats actually the reality, because once your dick goes numb and ED suicide is very close, I want to be brutally honest.

To put it in perspective:

Before PE:
I was working daily with a good income, doing very well for my age, also in school getting a good education, had my girlfriend(underwear model) who was willing to do anything, and we had frequent 3somes etc.
I had tons of friends, always socializing, basically at the age of 20, I was living the life and a lot of good things was on the horizon.

Then I discover PE and decide to get a extra inch on my dick

After PE:

Quit my job, couldn't focus or even bring myself out of bed anymore.
Quit school, dropped out, wasted a lot of money on that and I wont be going back.
Dropped my girl and told her I needed time, I can't be with her in this state...
I no longer really go out at all, it sounds extreme, but this is what it is, you don't feel hole, this is worse than losing loved ones, this is worse than being diagnosed with terminal disease and only having 10 more normal years to live...
At first you go into denial and wishful thinking occupies your time: "this is temporary, this will go away", then when it doesn't you start obsessing, reading everything about it on the internet, then as time goes on you start checking for sensitivity EVERYDAY in some desperate hope of one day feeling anything.

Some will say "not everyone reacts to a nerve injury like that" and I agree, sure, some may handle it better than me, but at the end of the day, we are a product of 3,7 billion year evolution where the single goal of our whole existence is sex.
EVERYTHING changes when you no longer experience sex.
It's not just your mentality towards sex, its EVERYTHING.
You start not caring about yourself _AT ALL_

Would I advice against PE? yes, if you have a average sized penis, don't risk it.
But if you have a "small penis" and you want to try, sure go ahead, MOST LIKELY nothing bad will come of it, but you have to ask yourself what risk you are willing to take.
I want to compare it to steroids, most people handle it pretty well, some get bad side effects and some kill themselves from severe depression.


Reading your symptoms, seems like there is no permanent damage done.
Just lay off PE and "hard sex" for a few weeks and it'll heal up, but you should really evaulate if you want to continue after that...

 

[DryJelq]

@ LostInTorture - Did you tear your dorsal nerve or something? What happened to you?

@OP - I would try doing a simple warm-up routine without any PE. This always works great for me. Your dick loves a good warm-up. I do some very light massage on top of this, but I feel that it's just optional.

I really can't describe in words how much this helps me. I don't do it often enough, but when I do it's like night and day with my hang and EQ.

 

[moxsum]

wow man.. so what happened to your dick? firm flaccid??

I cant speak for your situation but I think you are over-reacting. How do you know its permanent? How long have you had this problem? Why would you break up with your girl over it if she didnt break with you??

I think your severely depressed and need help.. believe me ive experienced similar problems and I know how terrible they are psychologically.. but my issues have always improved with time, sometimes they come back but in general they get better.. not permanent. I doubt your situation is either. ABsolute worst case scenario you can take ED meds or get a implant done.. and sitll live a relatively normal sex life.

Your dick/sex is not your existence.. I know as a man its like your whole being, I get it.. but ultimately, theres a lot more to life..

Its true that your dick is not indestructible.. no one said that. but it heals from most problems, although sometimes it takes a while.

I have experienced numbness, loss of sensation, ED, no libido, firm flaccid etc. and all symptoms have improved at times, other times like right now they re-appear for a little while but, there was a time when I thought my life was over too.. i thought id have this firm flaccid/numb dick forever, but it went away after a few weeks..

i think your attitude is not helping your situation.. stress/depression/obsessing makes any health problem 10x worse.

 

[NP97]

What did you actually do?

 

[Newbert_zero]

Damn lost in torture I don't even know what to say that's pretty much the most depressing thing Ive ever heard. Theres nothing you can do? Surgery anything? What makes you think my injury isn't permanent? Fuck I don't want to die a virgin. You really permanently injured it with proper warm up and just sticking to a basic routine? Damn

 

[UYN]

I think he stated a good point, there are risks. Think about your options, then take a decision. It you think it is worth it, then do it, if not then don't. Everybody is different and of course reacts differently. There are risks in absolutely everything in life, but considering "the benefits vs the unwanted effects" is what you should think about.

Let's take alcohol as an example. "Should I go out and drink a fair amount and have fun with my friends, maybe get some new acquaintances , meet a girl, create a good memory" vs "The cost of going out, what effects it might have on your health, etc.". So you weigh in, then make a decision, I don't really understand don't use the same thinking pattern when it comes to PE, it is after all about what you think will benefit you the most.

-UYN-

 

[LostInTorture]

I'm not trying to say PE will kill you or is SUPER dangeorus, I just want people to understand that these stories exist.
Over at thundersplace they actually ban / delete people's posts who are negative against PE, which is basically censorship...

This is not overaction, it's been nonstop dead dick for 12+ months now...
At first I denied believing it was permanent, I was basically in denial, didnt overeact, went to doctor etc. got reinsurance from PE forums etc. etc. but after time went on and NO change happened, you lose hope.
Nowhere on the internet have I read that u can recover nerve damage after 12 months...

ALL I did was some light jelqs and stretches....
THATS IT, NOTHING ELSE.

So please take it into consideration, its easy to get hung up on the dick size, i was OVER the average (still is) and felt like "well if I only get a inch longer Im a fullblown pornstar" and it cost me _EVERYTHING_

I understand people may feel like I overreacted, but trust me, if you were in my shoes I doubt you'd do any better...

Its easy to say "there is more to life" when you are living a life thats normal..

 

[moxsum]

hey man, i feel your pain ( to some degree ).. but I dont believe thers no help out there for you.. as I said before, WORST case you can get an implant.. therse no point living the rest of your life in this state feeling sorry for yourself..

have you tried viagra, cialis etc. have you been to multiple urologists? do you have pelvic floor problems? maybe a pelvic floor therapist.. I dont think some light jelqing and stretches could cause serious permanent damage to your penis.. clearly your very depressed/anxious wich will stop you from feeling sexual at all.. im not saying thats the only cause, but even if you were 100% healthy, you still wouldnt feel sexual or get any boners in the mental state your in now..

anyway, i wish you all the best.. i think you should not give up and go see some more uro's / naturpaths / figure this thing out.

 

[LostInTorture]

I dont think you have read my problems at all... Your obviously just saying the standard thing to say to people in a negative PE situation.
I HAVE NO ERECTILE PROBLEMS, so implant would do NOTHING for me.
My dick is DEAD, it's like a strapon, NO sensation, what so ever...
Which is waaaay worse than a simple erectile dysfunction that IS treatable...

This is 0% mental and no I have no pelvic floor issues, I wish it was that simple.
This happened 1 night while jelqing...

 

[TTBB]

What did the urologist say when you saw him and what advise did he give you to resolve the problem?

 

[LostInTorture]

Well the first time they did this test to check my sensitivity and it was infact lowered, however since the technology to study individual nerves are still very much nonexistant, there wasn't anything beyond that they could do.
As for treatment? "Dont be rough with it and come back if sensation hasnt come back in 1 month", I dno why the fuck they would say that, when I came back, same test, just to tell me "well, this isnt good, there is unfortunately no treatment"...
And thats the answer you get from every urologist and neurologists in 2010....

Thats just it, there is infact no treatment.

 

[flex]

I'm not trying to say PE will kill you or is SUPER dangeorus, I just want people to understand that these stories exist.
Over at thundersplace they actually ban / delete people's posts who are negative against PE, which is basically censorship...

Thunder's is actually very tolerant of injury discussions and threads, permanent or otherwise. Furthermore, I don't know of any other sites with a "Warning to Newbies" like they have. They are to be commended for that.

 

[LostInTorture]

I also commend them for that, but I've seen users banned and threads locked/deleted because the admin felt like people who hurt themselves doing PE was saying everyone would die because of PE or something, I dno.
All I know is that there is a very big misconception that everyone that gets injured heal...

 

[moxsum]

hey man.. ya maybe i missed something..

well, thats awesome that you have no erectile problems.. could be a lot worse man, atleast you can still fuck women!! and make them feel good!

I know for me, one of the most exciting aspects of sex is pleasing a woman.. it makes me feel good an makes me excited knowing shes enjoying oral or my hands or whatever even not using my dick.. so you can definitely still derive pleasure from sex even if you felt 0% sensation in your penis..

none the less, i sympthatize. that definitely sucks big time.. but i think you need to look at the positive things too, you can still get boners no problem.. also, it seems odd that, if your nerves were totally destroyed down there, you probably wouldnt be able to get an erection?

So you feel absolutely no sensation? even if you pinch your dick? what about the glans is it sensitive? Ive experienced and am currently experiencing reduced sensation because of the firm flaccid thing, but ive seen it improve over time so im not gonna stress myself over it too much..

You could try some supplements for nerve health, and try and figure out if you have a nerve injury to the dorsal nerve.. have you experienced any other symptoms at all? any prostate problems, urinary symptoms, etc. did you feel pain when this happened? do you feel numbness or tingling, or just lack of feeling?

 

[LostInTorture]

I don't want to offend anyone, but trust me, erectile dysfunction is NOTHING compared to no sensation in penis.
ED = embarassing and you feel like "less of a man" because you can't get it up unassisted, but fact it's treatable like hell, tons of supplements, medicine and worst case scenario implant...

While in my case, sure I can get erect, but I don't even know that I'm erect, it's that dead.
Imagine chopping off your dick and replacing it with a strapon, would that be better than having to pop a pill before sex?
hell no....

Yes sure it's good to be able to pleasure a girl, but you'd have to have a personality disorder to only want to pleasure a person and never get anything but frustration in return.
Trust me...

I find it hard to compare it to something but if I had to I would compare it to a normal headache vs cluster headaches.
You could argue "well be glad you don't have stress in your life that cause a normal headache from time to time", while cluster headache actually drive people to suicide.

Thats how I feel, there is no treatment for cluster headaches, there are infinite treatments for normal headaches, which would you choose?

 

[TTBB]

Your are right there is a huge difference between a headache and a cluster headache but there are treatments and medications for cluster headaches ..they are more effective for some people then others ...Cluster headaches are not that common and not all doctors know how to treat it and most of the time they are misdiagnosed.. so its more about finding the right doctor and pushing the issue until you find one that has the knowledge to help and it could be the same thing with your penis problem ..

 

[Gogulik]

If you think your life is over, please try this. Are you saying when you get an erection you don't feel the throb, you don't have that erect feeling? Try meditating (you can find how to do this on the internet) and you will probably get an erection spontaneously if you think about something that turns you on. I think you will some feeling, try it.

I am the same... and I think I completely disconected my penis from myself with negative thoughts and other worries. Anything can be healed when you heal it in your head. Try doing some visualization exercices and other alternative things to help with your condition, obviously western medicine can not do anything