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Nobody is pushing for a Christian Nationalist country. Is the left, specially insurrectionists like Jyless Reid, a very dangerous element who brought the topic as if there was something wrong with a Christian Nationalist. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with White Christian, Straight, Patriot Nationalist. She and her co-conspirators are the problem.
I never said there's anything wrong with being a christian nationalist. But you're wrong about nobody pushing for a christian nationalist country - as I said earlier, Josh Hawley is clearly advocating for it explicitly, and he's not alone in that. Many on the right have been making the argument for decades. That was all that my point was about. https://thebiohacker.com/forums/threads/biden.3262809/post-3291116

Look at who is donating the large dollars. Religious affiliates seem to pull a lot of strings. Pulling strings is a form of control.
I don't disagree with that premise at all. I simply said that the US is not a "christian nation" and that the governance of the country should have nothing to do with religion. Are there some religious-backed agendas and some lawmakers who would like their religion to inform governance? Of course. But it's our job as a democracy to reject that and the role of the judicial branch (and one would like to think, the executive branch) to keep them in check.
 
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I never said there's anything wrong with being a christian nationalist. But you're wrong about nobody pushing for a christian nationalist country - as I said earlier, Josh Hawley is clearly advocating for it explicitly, and he's not alone in that. Many on the right have been making the argument for decades. That was all that my point was about. https://thebiohacker.com/forums/threads/biden.3262809/post-3291116


I don't disagree with that premise at all. I simply said that the US is not a "christian nation" and that the governance of the country should have nothing to do with religion. Are there some religious-backed agendas and some lawmakers who would like their religion to inform governance? Of course. But it's our job as a democracy to reject that and the role of the judicial branch (and one would like to think, the executive branch) to keep them in check.
I can't disagree with this
 
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Well. Thats that.
 

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I guess they will not have Biden to kick around anymore.
 

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I guess they will not have Biden to kick around anymore.
Oh idk. He has at least another six months in office to let another million illegals cross the border.
 

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That's democracy for ya; run by the people behind the curtains.Who cares what the people voted for.
 

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I can't believe they are willing to run Harris, but then again, if you have already determined who will win, it doesn't matter all that much
 

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They're in a bit of a pickle now. Harris is pretty unlikely to beat Trump but they gotta be looking at all the other options and wondering if there's enough time to develop the name recognition at this point. Biden couldn't not endorse her and she has a higher standing in polls than probably any other candidate could muster up with not much longer to go.
 

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I can't believe they are willing to run Harris, but then again, if you have already determined who will win, it doesn't matter all that much
Much like sports. When the game is lost put in the Scout Team players.
Gavin Newsom's California record and hypocrisy is documented.
We left what everyone calls Newsom's ComiFornia years ago.
 
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God help us all, if Harris wins. There will not be a country in the world that will show us any respect. She did not do anything while VP, except an extremely quick trip to the southern border after being ordered by Biden. She returned immediately and reported that everthing is fine. :rolleyes: She also has a knack for dodging media questions by laughing out loud and walking away.
 

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Well all that was when she was just gonna be VP. Now that she's running for the big job she's the next Abe Lincoln and Obama all in one. She's ideal. Who else could add 20 points to their favorablity rating overnight while doing nothing?
 

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But she has raised $200 million in one week and has a higher approval rating than Trump And if you vote for her you will still be able to vote Again four years from now. I gather her two step children do not count as a family and she is still considered a childless cat women.
 

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She raised 200 million my a$$, she didn't raise sh*t. The donors are buying her way in.

Nobody likes her, she won't be the candidate come election time
 
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Putin and the Chinese are rubbing their hands together hopeing she is elected. A fellow elite leftist bent on controlling everyone’s lives. Hillary must be so jealous
 
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You all are acting as though one is malevolant and disgraceful and the other isn’t, when they’re, in fact, equally self-interested and authoritarian. Red vs Blue politics is nothing other than a race to determine who gets to impose their will on us. The difference is simply that some like the will of one side and not the other.
 
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You all are acting as though one is malevolant and disgraceful and the other isn’t, when they’re, in fact, equally self-interested and authoritarian. Red vs Blue politics is nothing other than a race to determine who gets to impose their will on us. The difference is simply that some like the will of one side and not the other.
You are correct. I think they both suck. We need better options
 
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She raised 200 million my a$$, she didn't raise sh*t. The donors are buying her way in.
And Trump has no donners buying their way in. How about these entities :


ContributorTotalInvestor/Timothy Mellon $75,000,000 Uline, Inc $10,009,176 Laura and Isiac Perlmutter 10,000,000, Bigelow Aerospace $9,182,000 America First $6,007,770 McManen Holdings $5,250,000 Hendrics Holding, Inc. 5,013,650 Energy Transfer, LP $5,007,719 Crownquest Operating $5,000,936Adelson Clinic for Drug Abuse Treatment & Research $5,5,000,000Southern Waste Systems $4,553,300 Capital Enterprises, $4,155,400 Sequoia Capital $3,513,200Rai Services Co $3,500,000, Newlin Injury Attorneys $2,442,390, GH Palmer Assoc $2,006,600 - just to name a few.

Did you notice Trump made an abrupt turnaround regarding electric cars once Musk indicated he would donate $45 million a month?

Do not forget he is still on the hook for $475 million from his sexual assault conviction.
 
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If you really think about it, these elections are kind of stupid. Both candidates are going to spend billions, win or lose. That money could help cure cancer. Fix our roads and bridges for us, and should they be needed for movement of heavy military hardware. Secure our borders. Help our veterans, Update schools, etc. I believe candidates should run on just their words and acomplishments, not advertising and wasteful spending. Each candidate gets an equal stipen based on the yearly wage of the average american worker, to spend on their campaign how they see fit. Nothing more. It would also be much harder to cheat without excessive $$$.
 

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Debates are a good way to accomplish your goals. A moderator could ask each candidate how they would approach each of your considerations.