Chemical PE

[shane_syndrome]

pepides are cheap bro ... 100-140 for 6 weeks worth of real use or dubble that in your penis so 12 weeks that only averages 10bux a week . hgh is 1-4 bux an IU and you take 2-10 ius daily that gets expensive haha but thats the only expensive peptide and hgh isn't even worth it until your in your mid 30's

 

[sigagg11]

yea. i get it for 160 a kit but its the best you cna have. still, to be worthwhile you need at least 3. and i was takin 3 ius 5 on. its worked alright for me, leaned me out and im 215 right now, 17'' arms...lol. i cant get started on this sh*t though ill start acting like a meathead. i personally loved it htough

 

[Jackxxx]

Just to clarify for everybody about your friend and a chest tumor.

It has been studied, proven, that Anabolic steroids and/or Human Growth Hormone, DO NOT PRODUCE tumors, or cancers of any type. What happens, if you already have a tumor or cancer in early development, steroids and hgh can speed up the process and develop them faster. But the chemicals by themselves are not gonna cause it.

 

[shane_syndrome]

lol thank you jack

 

[Jackxxx]

You're welcome bro. Those are more scare tactics created by the drive-by media. There are two reasons why steroids are controlled substances. 1, because they work flawlessly, and 2, because they need personal study to effectively use them, and humans WILL NOT study before touching them.

 

[shane_syndrome]

lol the worst side i ever had was on 750 mg of test e and i fuckd a few heffers

 

[CUSP82]

Whoa Jack back up the truck! Steroids are not dangerous? They are highly dangerous and should be used only with caution and when needed as perscribed!Do you know that steriods masks infections in the body? There are some infections who presence are found not by blood tests but by x-ray. If you're on steroids that will not be seen which may cause you a bigger problem. Grownups taking hgh? Yes your body produces it when you're young in order to grow. Bones and joints are very pliable then. Now take that when you're a grownup and all those joints that have since stopped growing many years ago are now stimulated? Not good! Growth plates have long been shut down and it's been shown in many studies to screw up the joints. Yes, some are used for people with joint pain but remember there are a large group of substances that fall into the category of steroids. You body makes it's own steroids in the adrenal gland. Once your body senses that there are already steroids in the blood, the adreanls will shut down.Once they shut down, sometimes they start back up; sometimes not. Google adrenal failure and see what horror stories you'll come up with! No, the reason they should be given under a doctors supervision is that they are dam dangerous! Never ever underestimate what a drug or even a supplement will do for someone else. You can make a choice for you but if some knucklehead on here reads that steriods are not all that bad, well I wouldn't even want to think of all the possible harm!

 

[shane_syndrome]

your body doesnt make steroids anywhere ... steroids mean synthetic hormone so i hope your body isnt produsing anything synthetic or fake

your body does how ever produse hormones all over the body to do differant things .

your just saying what they say on the news you never done any actuall research so dont judge somthing you know nothing about , I hate when people just sit there and bash somthing they dont even know what it is , you have no idea how nieve and that sounds to me when someone says steroids are prodused in your adrenal glands.

 

[CUSP82]

A hormone is a streroid.That substance that we read so much about,cholesterol, is a naturally occuring substance found in our bodies as well as certain food we eat.Cholesterol is member of the steroid family of oraganic compounds used for a variety of things in the body. The naturally occuring end product of steroid metabolism in the body are such things called steroid hormones or as we like to call them just plain hormones. Chemically there is not much difference between a steroid or a hormone. It's just that we talk about hormones as something different when it really isn't.Everyone has heard of cortisol, the so- called stress hormone. Well that's made in the adrenal cortex.Cortisol is a member of a group of compounds that are known as corticosteroids. A corticosteroid are the steroids produced from the adrenal cortex, excluding the sex hormones, also steroids, that are produced elsewhere.All human hormones are in fact steroids. They all have similiar chemical composition and are divided into 2 main groups; the glucocorticords such as cortisol as well as the mineralocorticord such as corticosterone and the androgens.For whatever it's worth!

 

[Jackxxx]

Anabolic steroids are absolutely safe, they have no danger AT ALL. The work perfectly, they are a wonder of science. That little example you mention about an infection detected by x-rays, lol...what is killing you is the infection, not the steroid. They are controlled substances, because they produce so many wonderful thing to the human body at a genetic level, that if they were available for everybody, the whole nation would be living under HRT, with amazingly developed bodies and enhanced genetics.

From HGH, to create such problems as you mention in the joints, you would need to overdose it. HGH is absolutely safely used in HRT plans today, and at low doses, has never had any side effect proven.

Then the shut down process you mention from using steroids, can be perfectly managed with the addition of ancilliary chemicals in your body in order to keep the HPTA active, and avoid hypogonadism. Is it that doctors know so little about it, that to keep themselves on the safe side, they prefer to tell people to stay aways from them. A professional bodybuilder as a better understanding of the endocrine system and the effect os exogenous hormones, than an average MD.

Remember all those wrestlers deaths on the last years? what the media said first: "They were on steroids!!" Well, not a single one died from steroid related causes. Steroids, were one of the 20 other things they were abusing in their lives.

Did you know that aspirin can kill you? if you read the label, it is extremely dangerous and has over 20 different possible side effects. However, even kids take it for a simple headache. Why the different behavior with steroids? Mind control. Emotional manipulation from the government and the media.

 

[Pegasus]

Jackxxx I am starting to get a problem, with you making statements such as steriods are "absolutely safe" and no danger at all.
I have to consider the safety of younger impressionable members.
Had a friend who died recently, don't know to what extent steriods were implicated,but I am sure they didnt't help.
Illegal use of steroids (as distinct from medical use), is not healthy, despite what they say on bodybuilding forums.
If you are going to continue making such statments, a bodybuilding site would seem the place.

 

[Jackxxx]

Jackxxx I am starting to get a problem, with you making statements such as steriods are "absolutely safe" and no danger at all.
I have to consider the safety of younger impressionable members.
Had a friend who died recently, don't know to what extent steriods were implicated,but I am sure they didnt't help.
Illegal use of steroids (as distinct from medical use), is not healthy, despite what they say on bodybuilding forums.
If you are going to continue making such statments, a bodybuilding site would seem the place.

Well, you haven't been reading my posts then. I have never talked about overdosing steroids, which falls in the category "as distinct from medical use". At the doses they were intended for, they are ABSOLUTELY SAFE. Otherwise, please provide information to backup any emotional popular claim or belief. Even in the sad case of your friend, please provide information linking steroids to his death. We need that feedback to put things straight once and for all.

I don't need to go to any bodybuilding site. This forum is called chemical PE, and there has been NO DOSES OR CHEMICALS advised to anyone by me, and even when mentioned, they have been strictly at a medical level, not bodybuilding or illegal use. If not even the name of the chemical is allowed to be mentioned, then what is the chemical PE forum for? Safe or unsafe, those are personal opinions of each member, and my safety claims are backed up by medical studies. I invite the other parties to post the medical studies proving any danger of steroids at their medical doses.

Ultimately, those "impressionable members", cannot get their hands on any of these substances because they are not available without a prescription.

 

[kingpole]

Anabolic steroids are absolutely safe, they have no danger AT ALL. The work perfectly, they are a wonder of science. That little example you mention about an infection detected by x-rays, lol...what is killing you is the infection, not the steroid. They are controlled substances, because they produce so many wonderful thing to the human body at a genetic level, that if they were available for everybody, the whole nation would be living under HRT, with amazingly developed bodies and enhanced genetics.

From HGH, to create such problems as you mention in the joints, you would need to overdose it. HGH is absolutely safely used in HRT plans today, and at low doses, has never had any side effect proven.

Then the shut down process you mention from using steroids, can be perfectly managed with the addition of ancilliary chemicals in your body in order to keep the HPTA active, and avoid hypogonadism. Is it that doctors know so little about it, that to keep themselves on the safe side, they prefer to tell people to stay aways from them. A professional bodybuilder as a better understanding of the endocrine system and the effect os exogenous hormones, than an average MD.

Remember all those wrestlers deaths on the last years? what the media said first: "They were on steroids!!" Well, not a single one died from steroid related causes. Steroids, were one of the 20 other things they were abusing in their lives.

Did you know that aspirin can kill you? if you read the label, it is extremely dangerous and has over 20 different possible side effects. However, even kids take it for a simple headache. Why the different behavior with steroids? Mind control. Emotional manipulation from the government and the media.

Under the care of an licensed endrocrinologist would i ever reccomend steroids. Steroid although wonderful in the the right dose are more often abused by body builders and other sports like minded people. Now we know that you waht your talking about. but we have imprssinable members that like over doing PE willl also likely over do roids.

To much testosterone can cause red blood cells to grow and burst causing strokes. Even with HRT repalcemet there is this risk. I use to give testosterone shots to patients it was done under careful protocall the doctor had to be physically present in order to give the injection.

For body building and other competitive sports the use of steroids appeals to the greedy side of things. The muscle these people get from them are unreal and ugly.

 

[Pegasus]

Bodybuilding use of roids is NOT medical use.

 

[Jackxxx]

I agree, the doses used by bodybuilders, ARE NOT medical doses or treatments. They are overdosing.

Anyways, I will stick to the rules of the forum.

 

[Pegasus]

Thank you.

 

[WhiteThunder]

since steroids and hgh reduce your recovery times for your muscles, to the point where you may be able to lift twice a day, would you think it is plausible that it would have the same effect on the penis allowing on to pe twice a day on workout days and still take days off throughout the week

 

[shane_syndrome]

I read somewhere that the recovery time of your penis is just 10 hours anyway so you could do it morning and night.

steroids dont make you recover so fast that you can workout twice a day (unless they where diferant muscle groups) they do help improve recovery time but not like what you would think

 

[raffinato]

igf quantity

igf quantity

Hello iguana

could you tell me how much microgram IGF you utilise to inject? and how many times per week?

the object in the patent is to enlarge the penis with cardio vassodilators en make those enlargements permanent by adding IGF in the mix (thats my understanding anyway)
i am brooding on an idea to also use IGF but in combo with a vacuumsystem for the enlargments (caverject too expensive and not available on black market) - IGF is plentyful though.

what do you think? also, do you thinki its better to insert IGF before or after the vacuum pump?

i will experiment with this anyway during a course of GH & AAS, with vacuum pump & IGF administered to penis.
(point being that there should be enough growth factor around at any one time)

thanks in advance for your answer

gr

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[Kirin]

raffinato,

I am considering the same routine for the exact same reasons. Where are you planning on buying your IGF? Although it is everywhere, I think that it is critical that you get quality, fresh IGF. Bunk IGF might be the reason why others who attempted a chemical PE routine experienced no growth.

We should all be sure to keep each other updated. No falling off of the face of the earth, please!