Wanted to see others take on my situation

[MrBigDick]

Well buddy, look at the bright side, you got fucked a LOT. So sad that this has happened. (jP

Yeah, I did shake off that 5 year old celebacy shell that encrusted me and got myself renewed. It really sucks this happened, especially this time of year but a relationship is a 2 way street and it doesn't do me any good if I'm required to validate her feelings but mine can get lost. I can't do that.

 

[Nikki]

When a girl breaks up and says she just wants to be single it's a lie. Whether she has another guy in mind or not, the loneliness and hurt of the breakup (even though she did it it still hurts) will eventually drive her into a relationship. Unfortunately rebounds almost never last and they end up hurting them more in the long run. But women think with emotion, rather than logic like men do. Unfortunate, but true... Believe me, I'm going through this now.
I know my ex still loves me, although I acted fuckin' nuts after the break up (to be expected... I was going to ask her to marry me in the summer). Whenever I saw her (last time over a month ago... I needed the break more than her I think) I could see she still loved me. A month after we broke up we even kissed for a long time and fell asleep together in her bed. Christ, on her birthday she hugged me for a good 10 minutes until I said I couldn't breathe. But after this month of not talking she is with a new man.
Last we talked I accidentally made her cry by bringing up old memories of her grandma... She told me she wasn't looking forward to the holidays, and low and behold, the day before Thanksgiving she gets a new boyfriend.
Now I know this is not serious, and I know how to act when I talk to her. I just don't know if she will want to see me or even talk to me. I called her today and she didn't answer, but she may have been at work (I don't know her schedule... it changes daily). I'll try again tomorrow or the day after, but I just don't know if she'll want to see or even talk to me.

Also, she wanted to marry me as well. We actually broke up a week before the big breakup, and got back together that day. She asked me if I still wanted to marry her, and I said yes. Not friends on myspace or facebook or anything either.... which was for the best because I was just checking out her profile WAY too much. I WANT to spend the rest of my life with her... I know what I did wrong in our relationship and I would never do it again. I also never cheated or did anything that would warrant her hating me, like being abusive. I'm at the point where I don't NEED her but I still want her. After a month of not talking I love her just as much as before. Also she never really gave me a real reason for breaking up... she said things like she didn't love me as much, I didn't treat her good enough, and I didn't SHOW enough emotion towards her.

Any thoughts on this?

I have just finished reading this entire thread. I think your heart is in the right place but for now, you need to give her some space. I am glad you are dating other girls. You should. As others have pointed out, you just very well might find someone else who you really like a lot. The thing that you need to be most aware of, is she KNOWS you will take her back anytime, anyplace regardless of what she has done. She has no incentive to reconcile with you now because you have made it quite obvious that you will take her back whenever she is ready to come back. While this might initailly be admirable on your part, chances are you will eventually grow resentful of how she took advantage of you.

I know you are 22 so I am assuming she is a bit younger than you. She is still immature and may or may not "come around" as you would like for her to. I have broken up with guys before and I know it does hurt. The best remedy though, is to continue to go out. You never know; you just might find someone who is so wonderful she will make you forget this girl. The worst thing you can do is to beat yourself up thinking that it was all your fault she broke up with you. Maybe in the future she will outgrow her immaturity and manipulative ways, but for now, don't wallow in self-pity. Go out and have some fun with other girls.

 

[kingpole]

When a girl breaks up and says she just wants to be single it's a lie. Whether she has another guy in mind or not, the loneliness and hurt of the breakup (even though she did it it still hurts) will eventually drive her into a relationship. Unfortunately rebounds almost never last and they end up hurting them more in the long run. But women think with emotion, rather than logic like men do. Unfortunate, but true... Believe me, I'm going through this now.
I know my ex still loves me, although I acted fuckin' nuts after the break up (to be expected... I was going to ask her to marry me in the summer). Whenever I saw her (last time over a month ago... I needed the break more than her I think) I could see she still loved me. A month after we broke up we even kissed for a long time and fell asleep together in her bed. Christ, on her birthday she hugged me for a good 10 minutes until I said I couldn't breathe. But after this month of not talking she is with a new man.
Last we talked I accidentally made her cry by bringing up old memories of her grandma... She told me she wasn't looking forward to the holidays, and low and behold, the day before Thanksgiving she gets a new boyfriend.
Now I know this is not serious, and I know how to act when I talk to her. I just don't know if she will want to see me or even talk to me. I called her today and she didn't answer, but she may have been at work (I don't know her schedule... it changes daily). I'll try again tomorrow or the day after, but I just don't know if she'll want to see or even talk to me.

Also, she wanted to marry me as well. We actually broke up a week before the big breakup, and got back together that day. She asked me if I still wanted to marry her, and I said yes. Not friends on myspace or facebook or anything either.... which was for the best because I was just checking out her profile WAY too much. I WANT to spend the rest of my life with her... I know what I did wrong in our relationship and I would never do it again. I also never cheated or did anything that would warrant her hating me, like being abusive. I'm at the point where I don't NEED her but I still want her. After a month of not talking I love her just as much as before. Also she never really gave me a real reason for breaking up... she said things like she didn't love me as much, I didn't treat her good enough, and I didn't SHOW enough emotion towards her.

Any thoughts on this?

Your girlfriend has a fear of commitment. This happens when someone has had a terrible loss in there life. Trusting and commitment become difficult. When a person gets to close they freak. This is in spite that she is still in love with you. Best thing to do is to be her best friend now. When the problem eventually gets resolved she may come back to you.

U should know i had the same problem fear of commintment and trust. Lost my grandfather when i was 5. This caused this effect.

 

[kingpole]

I read most of this thread and I can tell you that I am currently going through a similar situation with my gf. We've been together over a year now and there are just some things that have begun to work my nerves where she's concerned.

The more I think about her, the more I start to realize a few things. She's fine as long as she's getting her way but the minute I stand my ground and call her out on something, she immediately turns the argument around at me and makes me feel like I'm the bad guy and she automatically goes into "victim" mode. Her punctuality isn't for sh*t. I took my daughter out on Sunday to run some errands and my gf and I had planned on meeting at Starbucks at 3pm. She texted me earlier that afternoon, asking if we could make it 3:30 as she was running late. OK, whatever. Well, my daughter and I get there at 3:30 as agreed upon and I even ordered her a drink. So, we sat and waited for 45 minutes before she even bothered to show up. And of course I was mad because once again, total disrespect for my schedule and my time had been displayed as well as disrespect towards my daughters schedule (she's 11). My gf has a 20 year old son (I'm 39, my gf is 50). He asked me if they were late and I said "yes, you are".........he then asked "are we really late?" and again I answered "yes, you are". My gf then proclaims "well, it doesn't matter that we're late, the point is that we're here now". I mean, her behavior was just downright rude and disrespectful.

Since she had a bad weekend, I didn't say anything. Mind you, this sort of thing has been going on for the 15 months we've been together. We'll have a family dinner at my place and I'll tell her to be there at 3pm and she'll show up about 4pm. So this past Monday, she was going to make dinner for me. Great. We go ALL day and finally at 3:30 she send me this text that she just wasn't up to making dinner tonight. I got mad. I didn't text her back because if I had, my emotions would've gone crazy and I would've said sh*t I'd have regretted.

So, Monday night comes and I go to her house and I decide to get my feelings about this off my chest. I didn't even go into the Starbucks incident, I just stuck to the dinner thing. Perhaps I could've just let the whole thing go as I've done with most things about her that irritate me but as she sat on the couch, she floated a line past me that was like her putting a 6" butcher knife through my heart. She told me "if you really were my friend, you would've understood that I wasn't feeling well and that I tried and tried and tried and struggled with the decision to make or not make dinner and all you do is get angry at me for my not making dinner. You know, I try really, really hard and if you were my friend, you'd understand and you wouldn't have gotten angry". I couldn't believe it. Not only was this woman accusing me of me NOT being her friend BUT she was also manipulating my argument and turning it against me! Unbelievable!

I followed her into the kitchen and we continued having our "disagreement" while she washed the dishes. I insisted that I was in fact her friend and she kept saying "well, if you were my friend, you'd have understood my feelings on this and you wouldn't have gotten angry. I mean, why would you get so angry if you were my friend, I just don't understand that". By this point, I really had heard enough and in light of all I've done for her since we've been together, her telling me I wasn't her friend hurt and pissed me off more than I could verbalize.

So, I calmly told her "well, if you truly feel I'm not your friend, perhaps I should leave?" She just looked at me and said "perhaps you should". That was it. I grabbed my stuff and left. Haven't heard or spoken to her since.

I've run the gammet of emotions from being broken hearted to being pissed off. Every time I hear the comment about me not being her friend, I think of ALL that I've done for her and I get more and more upset. I've taken care of her car for her, I've cleaned her house for her ON MY DAYS OFF so she would come home to a clean house, I've given her grocery money, I gave her money to get her hair done for Christmas (not a Christmas present, just a "because" gift), I've gotten her financial arrangements in order because she's terrible with money through her own admission, I helped her get her final paycheck from her prior employer (they sent her her final paycheck last year and for some odd reason, she never cashed it. So, I emailed her and told her how to handle HR and get her final paycheck), I have her 15K of my Alaska Airline miles when we went to Seattle over Labor Day weekend so her airfare would be cheaper (cost of about $150). And lastly, I helped her with her intellectually challenged 20 year old son who has a form of autism. Because of me, this kid FINALLY after 11 years went to the dentist and got his teeth in order. I also offered to take this kid to get his DMV permit to learn to drive and I've taken him to my house a couple of different times while my gf was at work so he had someone to talk to and hang out with.

I've done ALL of this sh*t for her and she had the fucking nerve to tell me I'm not her friend!

I haven't heard from her since Monday and while she has the libido of a fuckin' jackrabbit, the sex almost isn't worth it anymore. Not when there are too many other women out there who would love a guy like me.

This is sad, but you should consider at her age she is at the end of menopause most likely. The end of menopause is worse han its begining. Although i think she is a bit selfish this trait can escalate as hormones go toppsy turvy. Victom mode is easy for a person to go into when they are a victom it is a learned trait and useful when one becomes fearful.

Don't give her up just yet.

 

[MrBigDick]

This is sad, but you should consider at her age she is at the end of menopause most likely. The end of menopause is worse han its begining. Although i think she is a bit selfish this trait can escalate as hormones go toppsy turvy. Victom mode is easy for a person to go into when they are a victom it is a learned trait and useful when one becomes fearful.

Don't give her up just yet.

Too late. She and I are done. She emailed me back last night and agreed that it was going to end sooner or later. She's just got too much emotional baggage from 25 years of emotional abuse from her ex husband. As hard as I tried to show her what a real man does for his girl, even I wasn't strong enough to fight off the emotional demons from her past. It's my hope that she and I can at least remain friends as I truly do think she's a sweetheart of a lady with a heart of gold, it's just the past baggage that's killing any chance she has for a meaningful relationship, whether it was with me or the next guy. Oh well, life goes on.

 

[NP97]

Thanks everyone. Your advice and words have all been very helpful. And kingpole.... the shitty thing is that if she has a fear of commitment I don't know where it came from. If it's because of her grandmother dying, that makes sense and all, but I was there for her every day... I helped her through it and held her hand the whole way during the entire ordeal. Maybe she is scared of it because she knows I have to move out west to get a job once I'm done with school. I mean we both wanted to get married... she LOVED the fact that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. Who knows why these things happen? We'll see eventually.

And MrBigDick.... that sucks. Everything. At least you're doing what's best for you. I commend you for that.

Edit: And I wanted to add.... the entire point of seeing her again was to put across the vibe that I may take her back, rather than will 100%. Too bad that got fucked up. You know, I wish, for just one time in my life, something would go the way I wanted it to. That would be just wonderful. I'm just at the point where some closure would be great. If she truly wants nothing to do with me, that's fine, I just wish I could hear it from her, rather than someone else. It's just really tough, knowing someone else gets to be with her, being close to her, when I don't even talk to her anymore... I mean I was going to marry that woman... and she threw it away for what? I have no idea. (Also, she just turned 19 about 2 months ago... that was a week before I turned 22.)

 

[007]

NP97...hey man how are you today. I know, this love thang is messy business, huh? It sucks, and sometimes the only closure you get it what you put on it. It would be nice to have a warm heartfelt sit down, with explantions and a peaceful parting.
But, you are a phenominal person, and one day it will hit her, what she has screwed up. May not happen tommorow, next week, or even next year, but somewhere along the line she will regret it. By that point, like your buddy said, you will have moved on with somebody else more deserving of your gifts and will be happy.
I'm pulling for ya', man
Oh..and hey, Mr. B.D.,...just wanna echo JonPops words, I'm your friend too.

 

[MrBigDick]

Thanks everyone. Your advice and words have all been very helpful. And kingpole.... the shitty thing is that if she has a fear of commitment I don't know where it came from. If it's because of her grandmother dying, that makes sense and all, but I was there for her every day... I helped her through it and held her hand the whole way during the entire ordeal. Maybe she is scared of it because she knows I have to move out west to get a job once I'm done with school. I mean we both wanted to get married... she LOVED the fact that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. Who knows why these things happen? We'll see eventually.

And MrBigDick.... that sucks. Everything. At least you're doing what's best for you. I commend you for that.

Edit: And I wanted to add.... the entire point of seeing her again was to put across the vibe that I may take her back, rather than will 100%. Too bad that got fucked up. You know, I wish, for just one time in my life, something would go the way I wanted it to. That would be just wonderful. I'm just at the point where some closure would be great. If she truly wants nothing to do with me, that's fine, I just wish I could hear it from her, rather than someone else. It's just really tough, knowing someone else gets to be with her, being close to her, when I don't even talk to her anymore... I mean I was going to marry that woman... and she threw it away for what? I have no idea. (Also, she just turned 19 about 2 months ago... that was a week before I turned 22.)

You just put out a key element here buddy. She's 19. She's extremely young, very immature and doesn't truthfully know what she wants out of life. sh*t, she isn't even able to legally drink and you're talking about marrying her? I appreciate the fact that you love her and want to spend the rest of your life with her but man, you're only 22 your own self. Why the rush to get married? Also, she knew of your intentions and you were there for her and she CHOSE to be with another guy. That was HER choice to make despite all that you did for her. Personally, she sounds about as unappreciative as my "ex" girlfriend does and my ex is 50........clearly old enough to know better.

My "ex" and I did some talking today and we've decided to remain friends and on occasion, hang out. Her 20 year old son was pretty devastated that she and I decided to split.........probably because I won't be there any longer to clean up the kitchen, take out the trash or vacuum the house..........you know, play Mr. Belvedere. I think the reality of what's happened is sinking into her head and she's starting to panic realizing how badly she's fucked up and that I won't be around any longer to do all those lovely little things I was doing for her and now she has to handle ALL of it on her own.

 

[NP97]

I have been thinking about it... and I believe you're right kingpole. Maybe her getting type 1 diabetes (and therefore developing very bad anxiety later on) at age 4, then the recent loss of her grandma. She does have many signs that point to a fear of commitment. She wanted space when things were going great for us (both of our lives were in an odd spot, but WE were great). When broken up I think she did everything to make me not want to even talk to her again... being friendly and totally loving one day then cold as ice the next. She did break up, get back together that same day, then break up the next week for no reason again. She is looking for this truly unrealistic perfection in me. Everyone has flaws, but she is looking for someone with none... Damnit. Well after realising this I just feel 100x better! Thanks again everyone! I'll let you all know if anything happens, but like I said, it's up to her. Giving her family a Christmas gift as a thank you to all they did for me. Her doggy gets a new toy as well. Thanks again everyone.

 

[MrBigDick]

Glad things seem to be working out for you. My "ex" and I have decided to go back to being FWB's. We're just in two different places in our lives. She's basically not ready for a relationship, it's just taken both of us the past 15 months to figure that out. She wants to be able to come and go as she pleases, not answer to anyone and above all else, she wants her needs met first before anyone else's. Given her 25 years of emotional abuse by her ex husband and 25 years worth of making sure that everyone else's needs were met BEFORE hers, I don't begrudge her her feelings at all. It just simply means that she and I can't be a couple because I need a relationship that's an even 50/50 emotional split, not she takes all and I get nothing. That isn't going to work for me and I explained ALL of this to her. She agreed 100%.

Soooooo, we've agreed to remain as friends and in fact, we're going back to being FWB's for the time being until I find and meet the right woman for me. I'm heading over there tonight in fact for a drink and some sex.

 

[MrBigDick]

I find it really odd. My girl and I decided it would be best if we went back to FWB's as we originally started out and we're still having as much sex as we did before. For instance, after some Christmas shopping today, we went back to her place and had a drink. After the both of us got a little buzzed, we decided to high tail it up to the bedroom where within 5 minutes she was on her knees, sucking my cock. After a few minutes, I had her stand up and bend over the bed for me, which she did without hesitation. I got behind her, spread her legs, put my dick right into that tight vagina of hers and I fucked the sh*t out of her.

Yeah, breaking up sucks..............

 

[NP97]

See that's just awesome. I at least wish I had that. Fuck... if I could just be friends w/o benefits I'd be happy. But at least keeping the sexual part there will help a bit with the pain.

 

[MrBigDick]

See that's just awesome. I at least wish I had that. Fuck... if I could just be friends w/o benefits I'd be happy. But at least keeping the sexual part there will help a bit with the pain.

Well, truth be told, I do have a couple of things working to my advantage here:

1. My "ex" doesn't trust or like strange men. Period. If we go out somewhere, she won't make any eye contact with any man because he'll likely walk over to her and talk to her. She doesn't like that sh*t at all. Unless she knows who you are and knows what kind of man you are, you aren't given the time of day and she pretty much gives you the "bitch" treatment.

2. I KNOW what her sex drive is like and I know she's a complete and total nympho. That woman can fuck and suck all night if you let her. After 25 years of being sexually repressed by the asswipe she was married to, she's out to score as much cock as she can...........from the RIGHT man. Again, unless she knows you and your character, you stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting her out of her panties.

3. This is the most important element. She and I have a very warm spot in our hearts for each other despite the fact that we know we ultimately must go our separate ways. I still love her and care for her a great deal and I always will and she me. Plus, our sexual chemistry is second to none and being that we have that mutual respect and comfort level with one another.........like I said, she'll drop on her knees and put my dick in her mouth in 30 seconds tops. She's also 50 and has been there, done that and likes NSA sex where there are no games and no bullshit. We hang out, have a few laughs, head up to the bedroom, bathroom, where ever we can get some privacy and just fuck. THAT, is how sex should be.

 

[Jackxxx]

See that's just awesome. I at least wish I had that. Fuck... if I could just be friends w/o benefits I'd be happy. But at least keeping the sexual part there will help a bit with the pain.

How old are you? I am 33 and the best advise I can give you is, forget about her. It is great to have a positive attitude, but if you keep fantasizing with her, you could end up even more hurt. From what I know woman, I could tell that she loved you, but she wants to enjoy life. She wants to mate with other guys and have fun. Remember we are creatures of several sexual partners; not one. We force ourselves to try to have one for conservative and religious reasons, but is anti-natural.

Phyllosophy defines love as a "transitory state of imbecility". Right now, you are unable to properly use reason. I suggest, distract yourself, do new things, have fun with friends, and again, forget about her. There are billions of females out there.

 

[NP97]

So I gave her family the gifts for Christmas. Left them outside and left a nice note as a surprise. All I got her was a jug of her favorite drink, got her dog two toys, her mom a cute little jewelry box and a thing of poinsettias. Didn't get a thank you from them. Also, my dog had to be put down Christmas morning, so I texted her that to let her know. No condolences from her either, and I know she loved that dog.
Well if all this doesn't say it's totally over, I don't know what does. Honestly, these last few months I have given her space, not tried to interfere with her life, and just tried to be friendly (the friend stuff was towards the end). What made her go from such a kind-hearted caring woman to a cold bitch is beyond me. Either way I don't care anymore. I still love her like no other, but I just can't take this sh*t anymore. If she decides she wants to mature and be friends (which is something I honestly want. I truly care about her and her whole family) then she can call me. Otherwise I'm done. I'm done moping about her, done trying to be the good person here. Obvoiusly she really wants nothing to do with me, which really hurts because I never really did anything to warrant that behavior. I'm just going to give her one final call telling her that I hope at some point in the future we can be friends because I truly care about her. It's up to her if she wants to persue that or not. I feel sick to my stomach with pain and heartache right now, but I know it will pass in time. I just wish I could know why she has become so cold towards me. Especially with all we have been through and how much I know she loved me. All that talk about always being there for me and always caring was total BS. Oh well, life goes on. She'll eventually realise that she threw out someone who would always be there for her and always love her to the very end. And when she is lonely and miserable, I wont want her back. Unfortunate, but true...
Thanks again everyone for being so helpful, whether with words of support or totally honesty I truly appreciate it. Love you guys!

 

[Nikki]

So I gave her family the gifts for Christmas. Left them outside and left a nice note as a surprise. All I got her was a jug of her favorite drink, got her dog two toys, her mom a cute little jewelry box and a thing of poinsettias. Didn't get a thank you from them. Also, my dog had to be put down Christmas morning, so I texted her that to let her know. No condolences from her either, and I know she loved that dog.
Well if all this doesn't say it's totally over, I don't know what does. Honestly, these last few months I have given her space, not tried to interfere with her life, and just tried to be friendly (the friend stuff was towards the end). What made her go from such a kind-hearted caring woman to a cold bitch is beyond me. Either way I don't care anymore. I still love her like no other, but I just can't take this sh*t anymore. If she decides she wants to mature and be friends (which is something I honestly want. I truly care about her and her whole family) then she can call me. Otherwise I'm done. I'm done moping about her, done trying to be the good person here. Obvoiusly she really wants nothing to do with me, which really hurts because I never really did anything to warrant that behavior. I'm just going to give her one final call telling her that I hope at some point in the future we can be friends because I truly care about her. It's up to her if she wants to persue that or not. I feel sick to my stomach with pain and heartache right now, but I know it will pass in time. I just wish I could know why she has become so cold towards me. Especially with all we have been through and how much I know she loved me. All that talk about always being there for me and always caring was total BS. Oh well, life goes on. She'll eventually realise that she threw out someone who would always be there for her and always love her to the very end. And when she is lonely and miserable, I wont want her back. Unfortunate, but true...
Thanks again everyone for being so helpful, whether with words of support or totally honesty I truly appreciate it. Love you guys!

I know you are hurting, and rightfully so. I know soo many women who would love a guy like you. Several members of this forum have advised you to forget her and to move on to someone else. I realize that is easier said than done. Writing your emotions here is a very good way for you to "get it off your chest", so I would strongly advise you to continue. You obviously are not completely ready to let go yet and start dating someone else. That's okay. It will take some time to get over this. Are you in school? If so, the spring semester will start in a couple of weeks and that will help take your mind off of her. In the meantime, keep posting here and let us know your feelings. Also, you and anyone else for that matter, are always welcome to PM me.

 

[NP97]

Well I go to school online, so it doesn't help that much. It just truly, truly sucks that through all this, I still love her just as much as before. I honestly don't even know if I would take her back right now, but I still care about her more than anything in the world.

 

[MrBigDick]

NP97, dude, it's easier said than it is done for you right now but brother, YOU WILL BE OK! I guaran-fucking-tee it. See, for me, I'm 39 and I believe you said she's 19??? I completely expect that kind of behavior out of a 19 year old girl. A 19 year old girl has no clue in life what the fuck she wants and sh*t, sometimes, they don't even know what they want by the time they hit 50 like my ex.

If I were you, I wouldn't call her or text her or even email her about the whole "let's be friends" thing. 9 times out of 10, that doesn't work. As much as your hurting over her right now, there isn't a chance you go switch off your emotions and just be her friend. Going from boyfriend/girlfriend to just friends isn't something that's easily accomplished. I know because I'm in that very situation right now. My ex and I decided to remain friends/fuck buddies and for the most part, it's working, but not without alot of effort. For instance, last night, she and I were supposed to go to this club and see this band play. The wives of the band members are friends of hers so she likes to go and hang out, dance, drink and just party. Anyway, I simply didn't feel like going and since her friends now know she and I are no longer an item, I felt it would've been too weird so I faked coming down with a cold and just stayed home.

I didn't hear from her until 2:45pm today. Now, if we're such good friends, don't you think I would've gotten a text or email from her alot sooner than that asking how I was feeling? I did eventually hear from her only to confirm our Starbucks date and when I responded to her text, she sent another FINALLY asking "how are you feeling?". She's very much into herself and the more we're apart and I can truly see what I was dating, it becomes more apparent to me how self centered she is. She also promised to make me a spaghetti dinner because I deserved it for putting up and tolerating so much when we were an item. Did she make it? Nope.

I guess what I'm getting at here is to drop any and all expectations from this girl. See, you're expecting her to react to the text about your dog passing away. Your expecting "thank you's" from her family for the Christmas gifts you bought for her and her family. When you expect things out of people, you are bound to be majorly let down. Don't expect sh*t and you'll be fine.

I know this is a rough patch for you brother but honestly, there are way too many women out there looking for a guy like you. You know in your heart you did all you could for her. If she can't or won't see it or is too proud to admit it, that's her problem and also her loss.

 

[Mr.Busy]

If it's true love set it free, and if it comes back it is meant to be!

 

[baybabe]

I guess what I'm getting at here is to drop any and all expectations from this girl. See, you're expecting her to react to the text about your dog passing away. Your expecting "thank you's" from her family for the Christmas gifts you bought for her and her family. When you expect things out of people, you are bound to be majorly let down. Don't expect sh*t and you'll be fine.

It's most likely pushing her further and further away.