Hard Flaccid is not as bad as we make it seem

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Hey everyone,

I used to have an account here (mike cares) but asked them to close it because this forum was causing me a lot of stress. But I wanted to make this account to shed some light and hope for everyone. However, over the last week and few days, I've come to a big realization that hard flaccid (this is assuming you only have hard flaccid) is not as bad or tragic as we all make it to seem.

I broke it down all logically and realized we can all have healthy sex lives despite what we think. After resting with hard flaccid 6-7 full weeks in an attempt to get better, I found my arousal with girls was coming a lot easier and that my erections were actually quite rock hard and strong (yes, the shaft feels weird, but it still works). Why was this happening? Probably because I haven't ejaculated in weeks and because I stopped watching porn --> all my sexual energy was going into real life women. My erections with girls were super strong but I abstained from sex just to see if I would get better. Finally, after 6-7 weeks, I said fuck it and started having sex. The first two times, I cummed in under a minute. However, the 3rd time, I lasted 4 minutes and then the 2nd time I went again and lasted 20 minutes! I even made her cum. Yeah, my dick shrivelled up into HF after, but so what? It pretty much loosened up 2 days and went back to what it was before that. So, i decided, I can either sit around and be depressed for months and years, or I can have sex with women the best I can and cut out all porn and masturbation so that all my sexual energy goes into a real life women (hence why my erections have been so strong). Yes, sometimes the head doesn't fill up in my nocturnal and morning erections, but with girls, its pretty much 100% erect (THIS IS ALL THAT MATTERS AT THE END OF THE DAY!) On top of that, I got a low dose 2.5 mg cialis that I tried 1-2 times last week and it worked great as well. I'm going to use this as an adjunctive, which I see no problems with. We all drink caffeine everyday, so its no difference in terms of a drug. Just don't abuse it like crazy.

So I'm having a normal sex life, doing all the normal sex positions (except girl on top of me yet because I think that would be weirder on my dick), lasting a good amount of time in bed....why then do so many people with HF panic like crazy? IMO its because many of them cannot get a great erection manually or for porn/masturbation purposes, and thus they go ape-sh*t thinking there dick is fucked. But porn/consistent mastubation is not the same as having sex with girls. If many of you relaxed and only had sex instead of mastubating/watching porn, you would have great erections and would able to have sex.

Anyways, after coming to this realizing and seeing that a small low-dose cialis can be helpful in times where you are freaking out, my anxiety about my HF has gone from 8-9/10 to a 2/10. Yes, its not 100% the same, but I see it as a new way of living and I can still enjoy women and have sex all the time (maybe not 2-3 times a day, but I'm not that horny anyways - 3-4 times a week is more then enough for me). I honestly have stopped giving a sh*t about my HF and if its there my whole life - who cares because I know I can still have quality sex. Once, everyone realizes this, I think they will live life in much greater peace. And if I have to take some small low-dose cialias a few times a week, who cares? Because in actuality, if you cut out all the internet porn and constant masturbation, the only difference between a hard flaccid dick and a normal dick is one feels tough at rest and morning/night erections may not fill up to 100%. But in terms of girls, it should be 100% erect.

Peace fellas

PS. your hands and mouth will make a women cum much easier then your dick :)
 
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inb4 the peyronies veinous leak gang rock up with there anxiety based discussions.
 

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inb4 the peyronies veinous leak gang rock up with there anxiety based discussions.

Lol was that sarcastic? Venous leak and peyronies are easily detected via medical imaging and tests. There have been guys living with HF with years and still have normal sex lives. I'm guessing because they can't get a great stiffy manually during a porn session is what pisses them off.

I've realized HF is not bad as we all make it seem. The only time I couldn't get an ereciton is when I was freaking out about my HF dick with a girl. My anxiety shut down my penis. Otherwise, penis gets very stiff and hard.
 

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Lol was that sarcastic? Venous leak and peyronies are easily detected via medical imaging and tests. There have been guys living with HF with years and still have normal sex lives. I'm guessing because they can't get a great stiffy manually during a porn session is what pisses them off.

I've realized HF is not bad as we all make it seem. The only time I couldn't get an ereciton is when I was freaking out about my HF dick with a girl. My anxiety shut down my penis. Otherwise, penis gets very stiff and hard.

yeah it wasnt aimed at you lol i was basically saying watch how the peyronies veinous leak gang start there garbage. good for you dude im glad you are doing well.
 

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i honestly belive HF is its own mental illness, it just hasnt been acknowleged as one yet because most doctors or urologists are clueless on it
 

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i honestly belive HF is its own mental illness, it just hasnt been acknowleged as one yet because most doctors or urologists are clueless on it

Yes HF definitely has a super strong mental component. It's such a small physical deficit that gets blown out into a full mental catastrophe. This mental catastrophe will lead to much greater penis problems and life problems then a hard flaccid penis. If you break it down objectively and make some small life changes (cut out porn and mastubation and focus your sexual energy not women), its not all that different then a normal penis. You will get strong erections and be able to enjoy sex like before. The turtling and lack of erection during manual stimulation does not really affect your sexual life. Everytime I have normal sex with HF, my confidence builds and I realize its not a huge deal.
 

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Hey guys this is spot on. Hf is just a bit of turtling.
Its gets even better, now you accept where you're at if you carefully do the jp90 routine you will continue on your way to how you used to be.
Its safe if you do it right, like any exercise, do ot wrong and you will injure yourself.
It really is incredible for penis health and eq.
Glad to see you out the other end.
 

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I have or had peyronies but my dick is stronger then the plagues meanwhile. Never cried over it.

When I hear the HF people its mostly panicky guys that seem tense all day and cant let go for a moment.
 

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I have or had peyronies but my dick is stronger then the plagues meanwhile. Never cried over it.

Did you diagnose that yourself as I have heard that the plague was quite bad amd killed half of london
 

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Peyronies is much more serious than hf. Hf is just muscle tension and brain anxiety. Peyronies is a degenerative disease of the penis.
What do you mean by 'have or had it'
Sounds like you dont know.
Did you jave the common self diagnosed version or the actual, much much rarer version that actually exists and is diagnosed by a doctor.
A doctor would also be able to help you clear up whether you had or have it. Which is, in the case of real Peyronies, a pretty pertinent question
 

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i honestly belive HF Is own mental illness, it just hasnt been acknowleged as one yet because most doctors or urologists are clueless on it

Its not a mental illness at all. Its a hysteria caused by muscle tension and cock obsession.
While the likes of oobitoo and voodoo child have apparently helped alot of people, they have also escalated the problem and the condition itself from a bit of posttraumatic physical turtling into some kind of mystic web of bullshit, yoga, suppliments,, superfoods and written a book where a blurb was sufficient.
Give it time and stretch it out boys
 

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Damn Dangler, you're on the hunt! Neutering URL's, ostracizing idiots and Whirling up multiple accounts; I hope you get paid extra for all this!:biggrin1::pop2:
 

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Thank C-man! Much more goes on behind the scenes.


haha sorry mate. Just didn't know how to re-activate my old account. Just wanted to share my mind of state.

Anyway, I had sex twice last night. The first time lasted like 2 minutes (was super horny) and the 2nd time was like 30-40 minutes. Could've went longer actually. Erection quality was good. Made her orgasm. Dick turtled after but today feels exactly like it has during my HF time.

I think I have a bigger problem at hand though...I'm not as attracted to my girlfriend as much as I was before so I'm having a hard time enjoying the sex...but anyways you guys can still have a healthy sex life.
 

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Hey guys this is spot on. Hf is just a bit of turtling.
Its gets even better, now you accept where you're at if you carefully do the jp90 routine you will continue on your way to how you used to be.
Its safe if you do it right, like any exercise, do ot wrong and you will injure yourself.
It really is incredible for penis health and eq.
Glad to see you out the other end.

Ive never done any PE. I figure the sex I'm having is like PE (its training your penis).
 

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Ive never done any PE. I figure the sex I'm having is like PE (its training your penis).

Hey mike, I remember you said your injury was done by something like jelqing...

Sex and masturbation is not exercising your penis is just utilising it.
Jelqing sessions, no ejacculation, deep breathing, total relaxation are very different to sex.
Forget trying to make it bigger but it will definitely make you stronger and improve stamina....
If you do keep it mild...

Peace
 

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Peyronies is much more serious than hf. Hf is just muscle tension and brain anxiety. Peyronies is a degenerative disease of the penis.
What do you mean by 'have or had it'
Sounds like you dont know.
Did you jave the common self diagnosed version or the actual, much much rarer version that actually exists and is diagnosed by a doctor.
A doctor would also be able to help you clear up whether you had or have it. Which is, in the case of real Peyronies, a pretty pertinent question

Real diagnosed peyronies. I say have had cause the plaques / fibroids are still there but dont bother me much anymore.
Funny that if I followed the doc I would be less penis then I was. Now Im more then I was.
Big time investment and much quality PE made it possible.
 

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Its not a mental illness at all. Its a hysteria caused by muscle tension and cock obsession.
While the likes of oobitoo and voodoo child have apparently helped alot of people, they have also escalated the problem and the condition itself from a bit of posttraumatic physical turtling into some kind of mystic web of bullshit, yoga, suppliments,, superfoods and written a book where a blurb was sufficient.
Give it time and stretch it out boys
YES muscle tension. so whats your advice to people that pay no attention to there cock or do any PE but they develop have hard flaccid? they have emotional mental health issues so your advice over stop obsessing over your cock means fuck all to them. you seem to assume everyone with HF is obsessed with there penis or does PE.