Pain at base of penis and perineum, but ONLY while lifting??

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Hi, I pretty much made this account just for this question, but I've been lurking awhile and you guys (and girls?) seem to be pretty knowledgeable about all things involving the pelvic floor :
-I'm in my early 20's and overall healthy to my knowledge. I actually don't even PE really, and came he originally to learn about nofap and ED.
-2 Weeks Ago: Went to the gym for my usual lifts. Wasn't in any pain going there, benched my work set fine. Went to squat rack and did my usual warm up of just the bar for 10 slow reps. Loaded up 135 (1x 45lb plate on each side), which is still 20lbs less than my work set. Almost immediately when I went to squat, maybe 1/4 into the movement, I feel like a weird "stretching" like a bubble is expanding my perineum, right behind my balls and before my ass. I was so dumbfounded by the feeling I froze for a second and said out lout "What the hell is that?". I immediately re-racked the weight and sprinted to the locker room to check for a hernia. Found nothing. Confused, I came back to the squat rack and replaced the 45lb plates with 25's. It happened again. Only this time I also felt what I can only describe as a "tugging" behind my dick, maybe slightly above the pubic bone.
-I gave it a couple days of introspection. From what I could tell, I didn't have a hernia and I wasn't in any pain outside of the gym. Convinced it was a fluke, I came back 2 days after the original event and did the exact same routine: bench and then squat. Went just as heavy benching again, no pain. Went to the squat rack, no pain and no limit in my mobility squatting just the bar (I actually bumped the assists with the bar on the way down). Loaded up 25lbs on each side once again. IT HAPPENS AGAIN! I feel almost entirely a "tugging" pain behind my dick. Re-racked the weight and left.
-1 Week Ago: Gave it a week rest, but I was scared enough that I finally saw a doctor. He thoroughly prodded my groin and perineum and couldn't find any hernia. He suspected either:

  • infection of something down there (prostate?)
  • strain on something in or around the pelvic floor
  • both

So I just finished 7 days of Ciprofloxacin treatment. While on it, I experienced pain and spasms pretty much entirely in my perineum and groin that I didn't experience when I wasn't taking it. I'm not sure if this means anything, because apparently a lot of people have crazy cramps and other side affects while on it.

Things I just started to consider in the last 3 or 4 days:
I've been a chronic masturbator for at least 10 years now, if not longer. I'm a "death grip" kind of guy, too. Spend hours edging without realizing it, usually don't finish because I hate feeling tired afterwards.
-I've injured my dick before (maybe 6 months ago), and felt a painful "strain" at the base of my penis when I flex it or ejaculated, which kept me away from touching it for a week or two. It mostly healed up (still feel it once in a blue moon), but as soon as it was mostly back to normal I was back to my old habits.
-Sometime in the last month, I started noticing it's more and more common to feel this pain during masturbating/occasionally during sex (although to a lesser extent; It hurts but only for a second, and not that bad).
-I also feel a dull pain maybe one out of every 10 times I go to urinate. It only happens when I first start to urinate or when I'm about to finish, and it feels like a muscle cramp or something, and eases up a little when to gently "flex"....It's like just relaxing and urinating hurts. It feels like a dull pain or strong discomfort: It's only hurt really bad maybe once, ever.
The night before the original incident: At one point while changing positions during sex, I felt a "pop" in the base of my penis that made me panic for a few seconds. Didn't feel any pain or anything, so I continued and thought nothing of it.

Toolong;didntread:
-I felt some weird perineum/behind penis pain 2 weeks ago, but literally only felt it while squatting with weight.
-A week later I saw a doctor. Didn't find any evidence of a hernia, put me on antibiotics for an infection just in case.
-I'm now off the antibiotics but I'm hesitant to hit the gym. It just recently dawned on me that maybe I shouldn't masturbate or have sex for a week, too. (I only stopped in the last 4 days)
-Last Night: I had regular, non-rough sex and was very careful. No pain outright, but did feel a little sore (at the base) upon ejaculating still. I'm not sure if it means anything or if it's related to not fapping for 4 days for the first time in a long time, but it also felt crazy good.

So what do you think? Is it probably a muscle strain? Prostatitis? Something else?
I've found numerous recent experiences on these forums, but none within the last year and no one ever seems to post a follow-up to explain what happened.

Edit: The title is probably slightly misleading. Pain at base of Penis and perineum, but ONLY while lifting...and also a little upon ejaculating and urinating and masturbating
 
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This sounds like a pelvic floor issue, a physio would be the one to see .
We can also help here with delayed ejaculation and some rehab ideas.
 

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I would love to see a specialist about it, but unfortunately I don't have healthcare and seeing the doctor already cost me out of pocket.
Rehab ideas would be great! I went to the gym yesterday and only lifted upper body (still causes you to use your abs sometimes), and felt random spasms in my pelvic floor, specifically in the perineum.
I'd be open to any ideas for stretching, etc.
 

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I would love to see a specialist about it, but unfortunately I don't have healthcare and seeing the doctor already cost me out of pocket.
Rehab ideas would be great! I went to the gym yesterday and only lifted upper body (still causes you to use your abs sometimes), and felt random spasms in my pelvic floor, specifically in the perineum.
I'd be open to any ideas for stretching, etc.

I have a avulsion injury in my pelvic floor, caused by exccesiv edging and hard streches.

Two things you need to know is, and you better listen real good

1. If you fuck something up in your pelvic floor, there is no surgery that can fix it, (I have researched this for 2 years) and you life will suck beyond anything you can possobly imagine until the day you die, not even the devil can come up with the kind of missery and pain.

2. Whatever you do DO NOT STRECH YOUR PENIS, the penis is attached to your pelvic floor, if your pelvic floor is weakend or injured you are in great risk of causing a avulsion, (tearing of the muscle) if you pull the penis

If that hapens it wont heal back, woman are build very different, and the cant even fix avulison damage in woman.

Giv it rest
 

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Sure thing, I noticed after a few days of avoiding touching my dick completely, the urge to whack it just "died" and my dick is more or less lifeless except for raging morning wood. Does this mean you also agree it sounds like a pelvic floor injury?

Also FWIW not 10 minutes ago I was able to recreate the pain when I squatted, without squatting. I was sliding across a hardwood floor in my socks (don't even ask), and as I braced my legs to slide, I felt the exact tight feeling right at or very close to the pubic bone. It literally just felt like something was "tight" and being tugged in 2 different directions.
 

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Firstly a physio is not a specialist and should not be that expensive .
Second I think this is treatable ,start with warm packs on the area .
 

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ALL of the muscles in the pelvic area work closely together, and even the abdomen gets involved if the intensity is high enough. You may have some for of strain, hematoma or even a tear in one of these muscles. This is just conjecture at this point so no need to assume anything just yet.

Rest is paramount, and that would mean NO lifting as long as this injury is present. I can understand the training discipline mentality, but training through something like your describing can (at best) delay your healing, or (at worse) increase the problem. Applications of heat near the affected area should also help.

If a week or two of rest doesn't yield significant improvement, go see a soft tissue specialist. There are some very intelligent members on this forum- many who have likely gone through injuries like yours, but a true assessment of a deep injury may not be possible from merely asking questions on a forum.
 

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I'm not doing any lifting/masturbation/sex this week. I've been applying a heat pad regularly and wondering, are there any stretches (like actual yoga stretches or something, not dick exercise stretches) that I could or should be doing? I feel like literally sitting on my ass all day might not be great for my pelvic floor.

FWIW I haven't felt any pain while peeing in awhile, so other than that random event sliding on the floor a day ago I have no way of monitoring my recovery
 
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I'm not doing any lifting/masturbation/sex this week. I've been applying a heat pad regularly and wondering, are there any stretches (like actual yoga stretches or something, not dick exercise stretches) that I could or should be doing? I feel like literally sitting on my ass all day might not be great for my pelvic floor.

FWIW I haven't felt any pain while peeing in awhile, so other than that random event sliding on the floor a day ago I have no way of monitoring my recovery

Yogic stretches can be very intense. You might try some LIGHT abdominal stretches, but that would only apply if you knew that your injury wasn't something serious. Stretching torn tissues can make things worse.
 

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Recovery update: Still no masturbating/sex/lifting...but I'm not sure if I'm getting better. I sat on my ass and answered phone calls all day and occasionally noticed that my very small and shriveled flaccid dick would "twitch" or spasm and I'd get a dull pain just behind my dick in the vicinity of the pubic bone. I also (rarely) get a very brief twitch near my ass

Just out of curiosity, is there any way I can be sure this is a pelvic floor/ligament/muscle injury and not a prostate issue?
I'm assuming if my prostate was swollen, I'd have trouble urinating. I occasionally have a dull pain that makes me wince for a second and stop urinating, but I'm not sure if that's related.
 
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Do you have any other toilet issues ?
 

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None at all.

Just after posting that last night, I got up to hit a light switch and felt a cramp simultaneously under my tailbone and above my balls, that was almost totally relieved by gently forcing my ass muscles to relax (like when you try to fart). I've never experienced something like this, so another reason why I think this sitting down thing is making it worse. I'm gonna go for a walk today and maybe spend most of my time standing and see if it helps
 

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Sounds to me that you have strained some muscles. I am no doctor but have lifted for years.

I would take a good month off from lifting. Form is so important and things like squats or deadlifts can cause problems if you do not use good form. You should also stretch before every workout
 

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Thank you. The common consensus from the various sources seems to be that "something is messed up, but it's probab not serious". I guess I'll continue to do what I'm doing (albeit with less sitting) and post updates if it gets noticeably better/worse.

It couldn't have come at a worse time though, I had just gotten a new gym membership and was about to start my regular winter bulk cycle :(
 

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Do you have any other toilet issues ?


This deserves an important mention. A lot of abdominal area and digestive issues are attributed to how one sits on the toilet. Prior to the modern toilet, people used to squat to defecate. This uses gravity to assist the process, and it also keeps the bowels open- eliminating much of the need for pushing.

The following article goes into this in good detail:  How bathroom posture affects your health.
 

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This sounds more and more like pelvic floor spasm.
 

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About to start the new week, hoping to get out of this rut soon
-Can't remember the last time it hurt to pee at all
-I've been applying heat liberally to the pubic bone area and the perineum, along with deep breathing and relaxing exercises, consciously relaxing the pelvic floor
-Glute bridges (I've always had tight hip flexors and a "sticky-outy pregnant abs gut" despite no obvious lordosis)
-Started getting into some very low intensity lower body stretches (it's been almost a full month since the incident at this point):
I don't have any obvious limits in mobility, but I think I can describe the motion that caused discomfort to begin with, it's abduction. I find that the "riskiest" feeling maneuvers are those which involve the legs being held or pushed outward. I.e. a legs-together bodyweight squat is fine, but I take my time trying to stretch if my legs are angled outward at all
-I felt a random spasm up in the muscles next to my balls in my scrotum earlier. Went on and off for a couple seconds, mildly discomforting. Maybe a 2 out of 10 in terms of pain
-My literal ass hole spasmed wildly for less than a second a few minutes ago. I wouldn't say it "hurt", it just felt a little crazy and hasn't happened before
-I think I'm going to get a second opinion and make sure there's nothing else really obviously wrong unrelated to pelvic floor muscles/ligaments-If there's nothing wrong I'll take my issue to a physio and maybe an orthopedic surgeon once I start my new job
 
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UPDATE: I noticed a lot of lack of mobility when stretching, especially doing those sun-god squat style stretches, so I focused on stretching the sh*t out of that area and manually relaxing the pelvic floor and I almost seem to be back to normal. Had sex after 2 weeks of not touching my dick at all and I lasted a lot longer and had no pain during any part of it. 100+ deep, slow bodyweight squats a day also seemed to help. I think I'm gonna start working light goblet squats into my routine and stretching hard before and after.
 

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Glad to see things seems to be improving.
 

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Another Update: Went to lift today, was able to squat just the bar once again without any problems. Made sure to do all the pelvic stretches I know of heavily before I went.
In between sets of dumbbell rows, as I went to pick up the weight, I crouched and tilted my pelvis slightly and immediately felt a sharp tingley shooting pain in pretty much my entire pelvic floor, seemingly radiating into the entirety of my dick. I've had sciatic pain randomly before, which is how I would describe this sensation. It lasted all of .0000001 of a second, but made itself strongly noticeable for the moment I felt it.
I didn't panic or anything, and it didn't happen again and didn't affect the rest of my lifts (given I didn't try any heavy squatting or deadlifting movements).

So with this given, does anyone have any new theories about what could be going on?
-I initially felt a "tugging" pain behind my dick and in my perineum (gooch) while squatting with weight a month ago
-I don't have a hernia
-My balls/the area above my balls randomly hurt temporarily, lasting a couple minutes. Feels like blue balls
-Sitting for long periods of time seems to cause spasms in the area
-Stretches seem to help
-Sometimes it's felt like a "tightness" like a taut ligament, other times it's felt like a full on temporary spasm, other times it's felt like a random tingling nerve pain

My guesses: piriformis, pudendal neuralgia, osteitis pubis