I want to be unable to ejaculate.

[camaro]

I don't want to increase my duration, neither do i have PE.I just want to be able to put off ejaculation unless needed.

 

[Ivor]

I don't see where this discussion is going. Everyone have got problems. And ours is Premature Ejaculation.

So, flexing our body while Edging would eventually make me become a Delayed Ejaculator? Thats quite useful for us.

Why go from one extreme to the other? Wouldn't it be best to be able to ejaculate when you want to?

Because delayed ejaculation does not mean "able to ejaculate when you want to" - it means able to ejaculate only after extended, vigorous masturbation, or even not at all.

 

[MarcusHa]

Ivor, the problem is that several people just cant get to this point where you can just choose when to ejaculate.

Either way, if you can become "unable" to ejaculate, you can also be on the middle of the way, cant u?

 

[camaro]

SO you are saying control will be achieved before ejaculation becomes delayed greatly? Interesting.Probably what i should look at.

 

[imac]

Well now. There's a BIG difference between being able to choose when to cum and making it difficult for yourself to cum.

Think of it like a scale like this,

Premature ejaculation>>>>>>>>>>>>Ejaculation<<<<<<<<<<<<< Delayed ejaculation

Now you have the two extremes on each side of the scale and a natural balance in the middle.

When you achieve that balance then you can cum in a minute or an hour. Basically you can choose when to have your release, so you can have a quickie or a marathon fuck session.

 

[zunamary]

Well now. There's a BIG difference between being able to choose when to cum and making it difficult for yourself to cum.

Think of it like a scale like this,

Premature ejaculation>>>>>>>>>>>>Ejaculation<<<<<<<<<<<<< Delayed ejaculation

Now you have the two extremes on each side of the scale and a natural balance in the middle.

When you achieve that balance then you can cum in a minute or an hour. Basically you can choose when to have your release, so you can have a quickie or a marathon fuck session.

The problem is that a lot of us here have tried for a considerably period of time, and haven't been able to go to the middle phase. We still are in the left side of the Equation. I believe that anyone, suffering from prem ejac. would prefer to be in the delayed ejac side than in p.e. side. So, if someone says I can get delayed ejaculation, I'll choose it without thinking twice. (notice it is delayed, not never being able to ejaculate, as the OP wants).

So, I agree with marcusha on this.

 

[second lensman]

The imagination runs wild. Maybe years an a mountain top practicing yoga or some form of asceticism or mysticism.
The easy way out would be chemical castration.

 

[Ivor]

Premature ejaculation>>>>>>>>>>>>Ejaculation<<<<<<<<<<<<< Delayed ejaculation

This is exactly it.

Now being on the far left of this axis is obviously frustrating for your partner (though it does at least demonstrate, in a crude and very direct way, that you find her attractive!). Being on the far right is frustrating for you, because it makes it impossible, or nearly so, to ejaculate through intercourse, which most guys find quite pleasant, or so I understand. But it's also frustrating for your partner, because marathon fuck sessions night after night will lead to soreness - and not the good kind of soreness but the not-wanting-to-have-sex-at-all-for-several-days kind, and also on an emotional level because it will make her question how attractive you find her.

Anyone on either far extreme of this axis should aim to end up somewhere in the middle, not at the other extreme. The grass is not always greener.

 

[MarcusHa]

Still, this conversation is going nowhere. Those are just opinions.

So, JamesMonroe thinks that a very tight grip is the reason some guys have Delayed Ejaculation. So he advises us premature ejaculators to use the death grip.

It is the same thing.

I want to be close to becoming a Delayed Ejaculator. I feel a lot of pleasure when giving my gf oral or fingering her. So I would not bother to be unable to have a "quickie".

Let's cut the useless discussions, which is full of only theory, and go to the practical realm: how to become a Delayed Ejaculator?

 

[zunamary]

Still, this conversation is going nowhere. Those are just opinions.

So, JamesMonroe thinks that a very tight grip is the reason some guys have Delayed Ejaculation. So he advises us premature ejaculators to use the death grip.

It is the same thing.

I want to be close to becoming a Delayed Ejaculator. I feel a lot of pleasure when giving my gf oral or fingering her. So I would not bother to be unable to have a "quickie".

Let's cut the useless discussions, which is full of only theory, and go to the practical realm: how to become a Delayed Ejaculator?

Well, I became a delayed ejaculator when I first started with rk and did only rk's, not kegels. BUT it only happened when I was edging/masturbating (had to hold a kegel for a long time and whack it really, really fast in order to cum), not when I had real sex (which is what matters for us), so this clearly states that the arousal/mental side of this needs to be fixed as well as the physyical one. Now, these guys say that by flexing their body and always masturbating like this, they became DE, but they did this since they started masturbating. Now, my question would be, isn't this the same as what I achieved? Maybe they didn't suffer from arousal problems and if you add to that their conditioning, then you have DE.

 

[Ivor]

Let's cut the useless discussions, which is full of only theory, and go to the practical realm: how to become a Delayed Ejaculator?

I think you can get condoms with some sort desensitising gel on the inside, can't you? You could try those.

 

[camaro]

An rk biased routine makes for delayed ejaculations? Details please.

 

[MarcusHa]

No, camaro. RKs are useful to restoring pelvic floor balance.

I dont think it would help by any means, Ivor.



I was hoping on more elaboration about that "masturbating with flexed body". I wonder if putting one folded pillow or two pillows under your hip and lying down would serve...

 

[camaro]

I think pegasus mentioned something along the lines of lots of Rk's resulting in delayed ejaculation somewhere before.A kegel hold is used to DO.Rk's are used to last longer by delaying the spasms that are required for ejaculation.

 

[JamesMonroe]

When you masturbate, try and flex your body (mostly lower body). This will get your body accustomed to the feel of ejaculating whilst doing that and it becomes extremely hard to ejaculate when relaxed.

I've been doing this, and to me it's a problem that I'm trying to revert. Seacock (another member) did this as well for years and now that he's in his 50s (?), he hardly ever ejaculates, it's extremely hard for him to.

I don't advise it though, let me get his quote.

Here:

Yes can u please talk more about this? I am experimenting with te death grip with great results to last longer and have almost no involuntary spasms and hypersensitivity. So what kind of flexing? Pushing out or sucking in? Rev or reg? Maybe you are doing a hard reverse kegel while masturbating??? Please look for my Death Grip posting. Thanx!!!

 

[JamesMonroe]

LOL. Yeah like that pretty much. Doesn't need to be SUPER flexed, but flexed/extended toward that works, yeah.

I've been doing it ever since I can remember starting to masturbate... That's why I'm so used to it. I'm not exactly sure when it became hard to do it straight because I always thought what I did was normal. I started masturbating maybe at the age of 13 or so? And I'm 18 now. Highly regret starting with it like that.

So this is the "flex"??? It's more of a stretch. So do you sit on a chair in order to do this? so to last longer, you masturbate with your back curved to the back and your head looking at the ceiling? How is it that this helps to last longer????

 

[Ivor]

I dont think it would help by any means, Ivor.

Why not? The whole point of these types of lubes and gels is to help guys with PE last a bit longer. Might be worth a try, is all I'm saying. Seems silly to write it off without even giving it a go.

Edit: fair enough, I've never tried them myself since I have the opposite tendency and have used products (yohimbe) to increase sensitivity, not decrease it.

 

[MarcusHa]

Ivor, creams does not attack the cause of PE. It is just temporary. And everyone knows that they rarely works... a lot of guys in here have tried them with no luck.

JamesMonroe, I think it is pretty much like a stretch. It even feels like some Yoga poses I use for pelvic floor relaxing and streching.
I tried this "flexed" position by putting two pillows under my but. I can really feel something strange. I think there is something useful in here.

 

[Tom_B]

Ivor, creams does not attack the cause of PE. It is just temporary. And everyone knows that they rarely works... a lot of guys in here have tried them with no luck.
(...)

I like the temporary bit. And I have used a desensitive cream successfully, when I use the cream I usually can go on for 30 action-packed minutes and the resulting orgasms are amazing. A nice side-effect is that I am not all that oversensitive after climax, so I usuall have easier to regain, or keep, an erection.

 

[MarcusHa]

Well, that's good to know, but what I mean is that it only works when you use it. It wouldn't make me a Delayed Ejaculator.

Now I am curious about that flexed body masturbation. And I could really feel different sensations on my pelvic floor when I tried it with two pillows under my hips.