Bathmate Goliath vs hercules

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Which size would I need? I don't want to buy the Hercules and find out very soon I need the larger one. I know my initial measurements would fit in the Hercules, but with a full pump and/or enlargement (whether it's temporary or permanent) I may need the Goliath. My current measurements are in my signature. Thanks guys.
 

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My girth is a little bit bigger than yours at about 5.5 and my BPEL is about 7.75 and I haven't even considered getting the Goliath, Hercules should be fine for your size. I have yet to order my bathmate either so I could be wrong but im getting a Hercules so it should be fine.
 

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The Hercules will be fine for now and at your end goal.
It will but it maxes out at 6" girth. So when I'm at about 5.5", I will be able to pump to 6". When I'm at my end goal, I won't be able to pump at all.
 

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Why would you want to continue to pump if you're already at your final goal? But I would definitely go with the hercules. Have you seen how big the goliath is?
 

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Haha yeah its massive. I just don't want to have to turn around and spend another 200. In order to reach my goal, I would have be able to pump past six to make that 6" girth permanent.

Edit: i also read some posts where a guy with a 5.3" girth said he couldn't use the Hercules and was selling it because it wasn't comfortable (too tight) and was moving up to the Goliath. Obviously it fits his normal size, but not after hes been Pumping for a bit. It's a difficult decision.
 
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Hello Revolved, I have both bathmates and yes the Goliath is big. I'm at 6.25 girth when I'm at 100% erect, it's was a cool day when I hit the inside of the valve with your head... And yes it is a problem getting into my Hercules. I still find myself using my Hercules when I'm at 50-60% for some Dld hardcore stretches and jelq sessions. Size is one diffence between the BM but you may find you will have to pump your whole package with the Goliath and the pump action has more resistance to achieving a full pump. I have my BM and dry pump and use them both in my routines. Yes they are pricy or at least the real ones on the market, so it's a hard call to get the right pump for today or plan for the future. Good luck in you journey...
 

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Yes, the Goliath worked great for me when I inserted my entire package. I never used the Hercules.

I still prefer my VacuTech dry pump. I get the greatest chubbed flaccid ever, and it leaves my flaccid
girth at 6" to 6.5" for several days after a pumping session. I did a two hour pumping session last night,
by the way.
 

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Yes, the Goliath worked great for me when I inserted my entire package. I never used the Hercules.

I still prefer my VacuTech dry pump. I get the greatest chubbed flaccid ever, and it leaves my flaccid
girth at 6" to 6.5" for several days after a pumping session. I did a two hour pumping session last night,
by the way.
That's insane! How long have you been pumping? And Do you attribute a lot of your gains to this?
 

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Hello Revolved, I have both bathmates and yes the Goliath is big. I'm at 6.25 girth when I'm at 100% erect, it's was a cool day when I hit the inside of the valve with your head... And yes it is a problem getting into my Hercules. I still find myself using my Hercules when I'm at 50-60% for some Dld hardcore stretches and jelq sessions. Size is one diffence between the BM but you may find you will have to pump your whole package with the Goliath and the pump action has more resistance to achieving a full pump. I have my BM and dry pump and use them both in my routines. Yes they are pricy or at least the real ones on the market, so it's a hard call to get the right pump for today or plan for the future. Good luck in you journey...
So pretty much your saying I'm going to eventually need both, so just buy Hercules now and Goliath later? And where did you get your LEGIT bathmate from? I need a reliable website, if you can help me with that it'd be appreciated.
 

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I think the Hercules would be a good start for you for now and sad to say that once you start adding devices into the mix. It will never stop at one. The Hercules was my first device then a ADS then cable clamps, then a Goliath BM, recently added dry pumps from vacu-tech into the mix. I use elliptical tubes and do some long pump times myself, it's nice to be able to pack a 2x2.5 elliptical tube at low vacuum while watching a movie. As for where I purchased my BM I think it was bathmatesusa website. Hope that helps...
 
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I think the Hercules would be a good start for you for now and sad to say that once you start adding devices into the mix. It will never stop at one. The Hercules was my first device then a ADS then cable clamps, then a Goliath BM, recently added dry pumps from vacu-tech into the mix. I use elliptical tubes and do some long pump times myself, it's nice to be able to pack a 2x2.5 elliptical tube at low vacuum while watching a movie. As for where I purchased my BM I think it was bathmatesusa website. Hope that helps...
So you would say its worth it?
 

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I like my Hercules BM more then my Goliath, that thing is like compressing a coil spring on a full size truck... Lol. Thats the reason I added a vacu-tech to the mix and have enjoyed chilling to a movie or the Raider game tonight and not a chance of water spills. Wet and dry pumps do have different effects and I like then both. I have heard rumors of a middle sized BM in the works which will be good as the Hercules fits inside of the Goliath lol. I think devices are a good addition to manual exercises, so one question is where do you plan to use your pump? Not trying to talk you out of a BM but I use mine in the tub doing jelq's and BM stretches. I find myself using my dry pump more often as I can watch tv or be on my computer.
 
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Because showering for 15-20 minutes seems absolutely absurd to me...and I want to die from boredom standing in the SHOWER (bath is fine) that long, I wait until I have the pump I want, then go hang out in my room or around the house. If you have a good seal it's just as effective as a dry pump
 
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That's insane! How long have you been pumping? And Do you attribute a lot of your gains to this?


I made all of my BPEL gains from Jelqing and Stretching--not from pumping. I have been using the pump off and on--more off than
on--for the past couple of years. The only gains I can really attribute to the pump is increased flaccid girth.
 
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I like my Hercules BM more then my Goliath, that thing is like compressing a coil spring on a full size truck... Lol. Thats the reason I added a vacu-tech to the mix and have enjoyed chilling to a movie or the Raider game tonight and not a chance of water spills. Wet and dry pumps do have different effects and I like then both. I have heard rumors of a middle sized BM in the works which will be good as the Hercules fits inside of the Goliath lol. I think devices are a good addition to manual exercises, so one question is where do you plan to use your pump? Not trying to talk you out of a BM but I use mine in the tub doing jelq's and BM stretches. I find myself using my dry pump more often as I can watch tv or be on my computer.

Hello!

For the past 5 or 6 years I have owned a collection of Pump Toys penis and ball vacuum cylinders which I have been using for recreational purposes.
I recently obtained a Bath Mate and have tried it in the shower. You are correct in stating that compressing the BM is like compressing the spring on a truck. A pretty good amount of suction can be obtained using this device but having to stand in the shower for a longer period of time wasting water is not the way to go.
I would be hesitant to try it away from the shower at the risk of having it leak on the carpet. The instruction sheet says to not use the BM for more that 15 to 20 minutes at a time. I for one don't like to sit in the bathtub in all the used water and prefer the shower. Hence, as I have stated above a lot of water can be wasted in 15 to 20 minutes.

With that said, I think the BM is a fun toy to play with but not much use in expecting any penis enlargement gains over time. Most likely the jelquing and mauual stretching exercises are the best methods to use. One more thing: As far as time goes the lubricated dry cylinders ( like the Pump Toys ) are best for longer periods of time. I pump my penis for 30 to 40 minutes at a time and it really gets big!
 
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Thanks to you all. Now I'm more at a cross roads between a dry pump (such as vaccutech) or a bathmate, pros and cons anyone? Rep to all you guys for helping.
 

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VacuTech is much more useful--not nearly as cumbersome. You CAN buy extra
large tubes to include your whole package if that is your goal. The length doesn't
really matter--girth is what they seem to enhance from my experience and from
what I've read. You want the width a tad more than your width at its widest point.
That way, you can pack more as your girth expands in the tube.