Different between BPEL and NBPEL

[fmylife]

That just doesn't make sense, it's like saying you would take a 9" NBPEL with 0" fat pad? And be dangerously underweight and dying in a hospital.
BS.


If you weren't listening most people have less than two inches of fat pad, if you have more then weight loss does effect that and you will be into the normal range. And insecure guys are the ones worrying more about what a girl or someone sees than what it actually feels like.
Because your scared people will talk. Just do PE and stop worrying about what you use or think it's more important. What you see should be important to you not because that someones judge you on it, that's the wrong way of looking at things. Fact is it's used in sex and it's still part of your penis. If a girl thinks your shorter than your BPEL measurment, then don't tell her your measurments, you're a person not a size or a number right?
Lose the fat pad as much as possible and do PE.

Yes it does make sense. You are trying to say you don't care about what other people think of you, yet there is no way you choose a slightly bigger unit with a large fat pad over a smaller size with little to no fat pad. So you do care how others view you. No one in their right mind would choose to have a bigger fat pad and smaller NBPEL, not you or anyone, everyone cares, just to varying degrees. Besides that I also do not fully agree that you can use all of you BPEL, you have to push pretty damn hard to touch bone when you measure.

I do PE for me, I don't give a sh*t what others say, and I am fine where I am as is anyways. I have around 7-9% body fat and my fat bad is less than .25" so this isn't a big deal to me either way, I am just giving my view on the matter and I think NBPEL is a better more accurate measurement.

 

[Steve23]

Yes it does make sense. You are trying to say you don't care about what other people think of you, yet there is no way you choose a slightly bigger unit with a large fat pad over a smaller size with little to no fat pad. So you do care how others view you. No one in their right mind would choose to have a bigger fat pad and smaller NBPEL, not you or anyone, everyone cares, just to varying degrees. Besides that I also do not fully agree that you can use all of you BPEL, you have to push pretty damn hard to touch bone when you measure.

I do PE for me, I don't give a sh*t what others say, and I am fine where I am as is anyways. I have around 7-9% body fat and my fat bad is less than .25" so this isn't a big deal to me either way, I am just giving my view on the matter and I think NBPEL is a better more accurate measurement.

There's nothing slightly when it's 5" fatpad, that's in dangerously overweight terrirory. So sorry your argument is invalid. You say you don't care yet you use the measurment that fluctuates thoughout the day, very accurate indeed.
Maybe you have no clue where your fatpad it, because you don't have to push that hard at all to measure past .25" of a fat pad. You're not making sense now. Guess that .25" of fat/skin must be snakes skin. Or just lying. I'm around .3-.4" and I can push it with a finger with ease. It's like pressing on the pad of your thumb in your palm, don't tell me you don't press a lot harder than that during sex.

 

[informed]

His point was to validate the importance of NBPEL versus BPEL. A chick doesn't give a sh*t what your BPEL is when she brags to her friends. If his example was a bit too extreme, then try this one:

7.5" BPEL, 3" fat pad. The result is 4.5" of NBPEL sticking out, visible.

7.0" BPEL, .5" fat pad. The result is 6.5" of NBPEL sticking out, visible.

Both are very plausible. Would you rather have what appears to be 4.5" of dong or 6.5"? Are you gonna compress 3" of fat pad during sex? I would never know if that is possible or comfortable from first hand experience, so I would have to take someone's word on that because, like him, I've always had .5" of fat pad or less depending on my diet (bulking, cutting, etc).

Moral of the story: yes, BPEL is important for consistent and comparable measuring. NBPEL is important for just about everything else

 

[Steve23]

Moral of your story is NBPEL for insecure issues because it's important for girls that brag to friends. Maybe you shouldn't give a damn what a chick thinks of your own penis seeing how it's yours and not something that should be up for public disscussion, no?

Seeing how the example is .5" difference in BPEL then you throw a whopping 2.5" fat pad difference? Lol nice try.

 

[ThinJohnny]

I would take 6 NBPEL/7.5 BPEL over 6.75 NBPEL/7 BPEL.

 

[informed]

Well, the example wasn't meant to compare .5" of BPEL difference with .5" of fat pad difference, the difference was to illustrate the importance of NBPEL for observation and to an extent usable length along with supplementary use of BPEL for measuring.

A guy with 8" BPEL, 3" fat pad... he's either a victim of genetics for fat pad and genetically blessed with a good length (subjective, of course, before you dissect even that little statement), or he's really fat. To an outside observer, his 5" NBPEL wood is not exactly impressive. Now he loses a ton of weight or has lipo on his excessive fat pad because he's actually skinny and developed a large fat pad somehow, and he now has .5" fat pad and 7.5" NBPEL. To an outside observer (let's say same girlfriend that was with him before weight loss or lipo) his dong is absolutely massive. That is the discussion we're trying to have.

PE is probably just as much used for enhancing sex as it is giving self confidence when naked (bedroom, locker room, whatever your individual case). I'd say many use it for both at the same time (myself included).

So to say PE is used and researched from this site solely for size increase to enhance the act of sex is a far cry from the truth

Personally, I want to be on the verge of "too long" and "too thick." It's a risky move because those terms are also subjective to the individual, but I doubt I'd ever reach the "too thick" side anyways (coming from 4.75 to 5.0 after a whole lot of work). But back to the topic at hand, I'm extremely satisfied being between .25 and .5 fat pad.

 

[informed]

I would take 6 NBPEL/7.5 BPEL over 6.75 NBPEL/7 BPEL.

Hmmm... interesting. You'd take a 1.5" fat pad and 7.5" BPEL over a .25" fat pad and 7" BPEL... I guess you could look at it as the extra 1.25" fat pad can be trimmed down with diet and exercise or lipo?

 

[ThinJohnny]

Yes, and while working on trimming it
down, you would still probably have
7.25 - 7.5 of usable length. Everyone's
different, but I personally care much more about usable size than what
a girl might tell her friends.

 

[Jayj]

His point was to validate the importance of NBPEL versus BPEL. A chick doesn't give a sh*t what your BPEL is when she brags to her friends. If his example was a bit too extreme, then try this one:

Tell that to my girlfriend! BPEL can be used during sex, you just have to go balls deep (pushing the fat pad against her pubis).
My girlfriend can take my NBPEL length, but she can't take my BPEL! It hurts her. So yeah, I can assure you she actually gives a sh*t about my BPEL .

Moral of the story: yes, BPEL is important for consistent and comparable measuring. NBPEL is important for just about everything else

Moral of the story: BPEL is best to track gains, and it's also what you can use during sex (unlike what people think).
NBPEL? It's just to brag and for the "wow your dick is huge" effect... nothing else.
I can now understand why Steve says NBPEL is for insecure people...

 

[informed]

Good to know! I, having very little fat pad, don't have any experience with how usable that difference between BPEL and NBPEL is.

 

[Pegasus]

That is not the point. Take an extreme example... say you have a 6" unit but 4" is fat pad, I don't care what anyone says your unit is not 6", it is 2" as that is all anyone can see. No one here would ever want this nor would anyone who wasn't familiar with PE say that this person is 6" long. Using BPEL simply distorts the averages we see in the polls. You can add your fat pad if it makes you feel better but for me I will pass (except to track progress).

Lesson 2 pay attention this time.
Wow another guy who needs lessons.

Here is how bpel is usefull . Put penis to vagina to the point the skin just touches as you must do now . Ok here is the big trick, push it in so that the pad compresses, voila that wasn't so difficult.

 

[Pegasus]

His point was to validate the importance of NBPEL versus BPEL. A chick doesn't give a sh*t what your BPEL is when she brags to her friends. If his example was a bit too extreme, then try this one:

7.5" BPEL, 3" fat pad. The result is 4.5" of NBPEL sticking out, visible.

7.0" BPEL, .5" fat pad. The result is 6.5" of NBPEL sticking out, visible.

Both are very plausible. Would you rather have what appears to be 4.5" of dong or 6.5"? Are you gonna compress 3" of fat pad during sex? I would never know if that is possible or comfortable from first hand experience, so I would have to take someone's word on that because, like him, I've always had .5" of fat pad or less depending on my diet (bulking, cutting, etc).

Moral of the story: yes, BPEL is important for consistent and comparable measuring. NBPEL is important for just about everything else

I would take the 7.5" bpel and how the f4$%^ did I get so overweight ? If I did get that heavy I would lose weight.

 

[Pegasus]

I agree with fmylife. While BPEL is pushable into the vagina and useful for practical purposes, the only real concern if you want a woman to say to her friends "I was with a guy with a big dick", you gotta worry about NBPEL. I've had girls call me above average at 6-6.25 NBPEL. Thats what I go by. I am 7 BPEL. If I was 6.75 NBPEL I would be considered pretty damn big by most women, but I have a .75 fat pad.

I wouldn't say BPEL distorts the averages though. It makes sense why studies use it. Then it doesn't matter whether your measuring 70 year old beer gutted men, or measuring 18 year old rock hard abbed men. So if average is 5.8-5.9 BPEL like most studies say, than it would be safer to say average is around 5.4-5.5 NBPEL for younger guys, and probably 5 or less for older men.

But as far as for what I consider my dick size, I go by nbpel. It's the size that if my girlfriend is gonna tell her friends about me, thats what shes gonna see and report. 7 BPEL is far above average, but strapon a .75-1" fat pad, it is not as impressive.

This is a great post, I am going to read it every time someone tells me I am insecure and have a laugh . Perhaps I should use it as an example of what insecure is . The term is used excessively and had lost meaning until I read this , I should print out some hard copies to hand around .

 

[someone_like_u]

Wow at all the guys who go for the girls who like to brag to their friends. Do you know without a doubt that they brag(or do you want them to go around and expel all intimate details), or are you just assuming all females do this? I can't imagine a female(besides maybe being a one night stand) that would go around and brag like that. BPEL is where it's at guys(coming from a female here), it's what's useable, and most definitely what's felt!

I agree with fmylife. While BPEL is pushable into the vagina and useful for practical purposes, the only real concern if you want a woman to say to her friends "I was with a guy with a big dick", you gotta worry about NBPEL. I've had girls call me above average at 6-6.25 NBPEL. Thats what I go by. I am 7 BPEL. If I was 6.75 NBPEL I would be considered pretty damn big by most women, but I have a .75 fat pad.

I wouldn't say BPEL distorts the averages though. It makes sense why studies use it. Then it doesn't matter whether your measuring 70 year old beer gutted men, or measuring 18 year old rock hard abbed men. So if average is 5.8-5.9 BPEL like most studies say, than it would be safer to say average is around 5.4-5.5 NBPEL for younger guys, and probably 5 or less for older men.

But as far as for what I consider my dick size, I go by nbpel. It's the size that if my girlfriend is gonna tell her friends about me, thats what shes gonna see and report. 7 BPEL is far above average, but strapon a .75-1" fat pad, it is not as impressive.

His point was to validate the importance of NBPEL versus BPEL. A chick doesn't give a sh*t what your BPEL is when she brags to her friends. If his example was a bit too extreme, then try this one:

7.5" BPEL, 3" fat pad. The result is 4.5" of NBPEL sticking out, visible.

7.0" BPEL, .5" fat pad. The result is 6.5" of NBPEL sticking out, visible.

Both are very plausible. Would you rather have what appears to be 4.5" of dong or 6.5"? Are you gonna compress 3" of fat pad during sex? I would never know if that is possible or comfortable from first hand experience, so I would have to take someone's word on that because, like him, I've always had .5" of fat pad or less depending on my diet (bulking, cutting, etc).

Moral of the story: yes, BPEL is important for consistent and comparable measuring. NBPEL is important for just about everything else

 

[Pegasus]

BTw guys with 3" plus fat pads should worry about their general health this would indicate obesity and health issues.

 

[informed]

Wow at all the guys who go for the girls who like to brag to their friends. Do you know without a doubt that they brag(or do you want them to go around and expel all intimate details), or are you just assuming all females do this?

Assuming most, not all.

And by they, if you're referring to most, then yes lol... and I don't actively and consciously seek "them" out, not even sure if anybody does. It's not like I pick up a girl sayin "hey, my dick is above average, are you the type that would brag about this to your friends?" And only hook up with the ones that say yes...

One last note: BPEL isn't always usable. If you have more NBPEL than she can take, the remaining NBPEL and hidden BPEL aren't really doing a whole lot... this is what's referred to as "bottoming out" vice "balls deep."