Very important for those starting JP90 and for those who did not gain. (My success)

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This is for all the beginners starting JP90-- or for those who did not gain after the initial 3 months. I had many newbie mistakes and I had incredible gains when they were corrected. Take the time to read this and you won't be disappointed.

So over the course of 6 months, the first three months(JP90) I had no gains.
The 4th, 5th, and 6th month, I tried different experiments/trials in each of the different months (3 to 6) and I have learned and gained the most from the following exercises/routine:

(I would like to address that I did not incorporate any stretching into JP90, except for the ones for warming up)

Manual Stretches:
JAI Stretching (As much as possible)
Bed Fowfers & Chair Fowfers (Most safest stretching exercise)
Bundle Stretching (In between sets of Jelqing-- This is an intermediate exercise after finishing JP90)
-- So in addition to the warm up stretches, you must add these to your regimen.

Jelqing:
The seconds and the quality of the Jelqs are VITAL-- I cannot stress and emphasize that enough! Quality over quantity guys!
I spent 2 hours total (Standard Jelq & V Jelq) -- In comparison from the 1hr and 15min session during my JP90 (first 3 months) (The time stated does not include stretching & warming up) So the 15 minute warm up/ warm down, along with 10 minute stretching prior to Jelqing does not count.)

It is VERY important to Jelq for at least 4 seconds (I did not do this on my JP90-- which is why I am certain that I had no gains)
Along with Jelqing slow, I would do a 1 second hard Kegal in each rep. (This was one of my experiments that I tried during one of the months that had the most gains) -- I also decided to substitute kegeling during non work out session to doing it during my jelq work out sessions.

Also, I would like to mention that during my JP90, I had a consistent 2 on 1 off plan.
On months 4,5, and 6-- I started to only do it twice a week, sometimes 3 and my gains shot through the roof.

So guys, don't waste your first 3 months/JP90 on a rushed and half assed work out.
I thought I did everything right.. until I started incorporating all of the different variations mentioned above.. that then I was clearly proven wrong.

Now you guys must be very curious on how much I gained:
I started with:
NBPEL 6.25 in.
BPEL 6.9 in.


Ended with the following in 2 months:
NBPEL 6.9 in.
BPEL 7.35 in.

In two months, I gained:
.65 NBPEL
.45 BPEL

And finally, for my 6th month:
I went from
7.35 BPEL to..
7.7 BPEL
The month that I gained the most was the 6th month (I even sustained a 9 day injury during this month)--
I credit all of my gains to the routine I listed above.

That took a lot of my time to write out for you guys, so I really hope you guys give it a shot.
Any clarifications/questions and feedback are welcome!
 
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Nicely done!

Did you incorporate low EQ jelqs as well or solely rely on the stretches to gain the length?
 

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Hey! The degree of EQ varied depending on the mood of my penis. I was not really concerned about the level of EQ for jelqs because it was really hard to maintain a steady level without it constantly fluctuating.

As for the length, I relied on both stretches and jelqing
Basically:
Manual stretching: When I'm on sitting, I do chairfowfers for hours with 15 min breaks in between each set. While taking that short break, I use that time to do JAI stretches for several minutes until I'm ready to go for another round of chair fowfers.

Jelqs: Slow Jelqs with a single hard kegel on each rep/stroke.

I hope that helped!
 

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This is some great advice! And congrats on the gains! Really inspiring and motivating reading success stories. Did you happen to gain any girth as well? Also, on the weeks you did PE 2-3 times a week, was your routine like a 1 on 2 off sort of schedual? I'm currently trying to find my 'sweet spot' as they say myself. I'm thinking I'm a less is more guy since my routine is def not heavy at all and my EQ is low and loss of MW lately.
 

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Thanks a lot! I had difficulty measuring, so I'm unsure of the exact girth gains-- but to answer your question, I've gained pretty decently girth wise.
For my schedule, it would typically be a 1 day on 2 days off. Also there would be many occasions when I would just PE whenever I had the time (I made sure to always put in at least twice a week though--3 preferable)
If you commit with the "less is more" which I also believe applies to me as well, then you must spend at least 2 hours on each session! Trust me!
Also to address your loss of MW, doing some kegels for 30 minutes several times a week helped tremendously in terms of my EQ and MW.
The way I used to do it was by holding it for 1 second, then 2 seconds, then 3, ect up to 15 seconds until it hits 30 minutes. (you should add more seconds as you get better) Doing this.. you should be able to get your MW back in a week or two!
 

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Amazing gains and thanks a lot for the tips!

Couple of questions,

Did you do the Bed Fowfers, Chair Fowfers and Bundle Stretching during the warm up, is that what you're saying? And what about the JAI stretches? I'm not totally sure how you do these!
 

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So for the Bed Fowfers, I would do them at night before I sleep (Usually on the night that I have a Jelqing session and the night after)
As for Chair Fowfers, I would do these for several hours before starting on my Jelq session. (I also do them on the day after to prevent turtling) On average I would do both of the Fowfers 3-4 times a week.
And for JAI stretching, I do these as much as I can randomly throughout the day.. as they are one of the most safest exercises! Just don't tug on it too hard! You can find all these stretches fairly easily on the google search. If you can't let me know!
As for bundled stretching, if you already have 3 months under your belt-- then it would go as follows:
1. Warm up 15mins
2. 10-15 minute basic stretching
3. A bundled stretch right after. (Hold and twist outward/and then inward --half-rotation for 30 seconds each. 2 reps) You should increase the seconds and the twist of rotation about after 2 weeks to be safe.
4. 50 Jelqs
5. 30 V-Jelqs
6. 50 Jelqs
7. Another bundled stretch. (I've heard a theory that when you work your tunica in between work outs, it'll maximize gains)
8. 30 V-Jelqs
9. 50 Jelqs
10. 30 V-Jelqs

11. If my penis feels like it can take more, then I would add an additional 25 Jelqs and 15 V-Jelqs
12. Warm down 20 minutes.
13. Edging (Optional) I would do these once a week, sometimes edging may be a little vigorous(After work out), so I let my penis rest.
14. Bed fowfers or Chairfowfers

Hope this was useful!
 

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Thanks for your reply. I will def keep those extra add ons in my thoughts next til next month when Im gonna add something to my ongoing JP routine :) Found the JAI stretch, looks pretty simple.
 

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Very nice! good to hear about your gains and dedication allthough your gains werent that amazing in the beginning! I just have a question, the last month u gained the most u had added some exercises to JP routine or am i wrong?

what is bed flowers?
 

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Basically you cover your bed with spiny roses and you roll onto it fully naked for about 10 minutes, each 180 degrees turn is counted as 1 rep.
 

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Yes. That is correct Johnny. In addition to JP90's routine, I added some exercises.
If you go to google and type in: Bed Fowfers PEGYM you will find a handful of information!
 

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Yes. That is correct Johnny. In addition to JP90's routine, I added some exercises.
If you go to google and type in: Bed Fowfers PEGYM you will find a handful of information!
When you do the fowers, do you only put your penis between or do you include the whole sack with the balls?
 

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I just put my penis in between. I have to position it perfectly between my balls or else it hurts my sac.
 

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That's what I also do, thanks :)
 

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I feel as if I do the JP90 too fast. i will slow down and i have about a motn hleft on it. i will then use your workout routine! thanks!
 

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just for clarification: on months, 4,5,6 you only did this routine 2-3 times a week?
also, were you jelqing for 2 hours or did you have a set # that would take you 2 hours?
 

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On months 4,5,6-- I did no more than 2-3 weeks. I didn't necessarily set a timer, I just jelqed a lot slower, which in the end rallied up 2 hours every session.