also are you sayin that stretches are length exercises and taht jelqs are girth exercises? but i thought jelqs WERE for length in the first place :S really confused
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isn't it fairly common to go about1/3 on and 2/3 off when focusing girth? would make sense if it focuses on different kind of tissue than length work, that its a different optimal recovery time.
if the standing position is good because you don't tilt your pelvis, wouldn't lying down be as effective?
these are just questions I am unclear about, great posts overall, will rep when I get home
isn't it fairly common to go about1/3 on and 2/3 off when focusing girth? would make sense if it focuses on different kind of tissue than length work, that its a different optimal recovery time.
if the standing position is good because you don't tilt your pelvis, wouldn't lying down be as effective?
these are just questions I am unclear about, great posts overall, will rep when I get home
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As Steve said, low erection jelqs can improve length but are still overall girth exercises - high erection jelqs are all girth.
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Days on and Days off are generally individual preferences. I don't know of any preferred days on to days off where girth is concerned, though doing highly strenuous exercises might call for more rest.
Laying down should be fine as regarding the pelvic position. I simply recommend standing as it helps to feel more like a workout and less like playing with yourself lol - but that's just me; to each their own. Standing has been a good habit for me to get into after lots of sitting down.
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I've been using this, I think it works great. You can measure from the inside of your thigh, and while the measurement will be a little larger than what your penis actually is, it will give you exact measurements for BPFSL and BPEL for comparison. The point is to measure accurately for comparison, not for pride, so if you can effectively measure from your thigh or just outside the fat pad it will still show you at which side of the TGC scale you're on.
I also think this needs to be a sticky. It's a great thread with all the basic-intermediate information on PEing, every beginner will benefit greatly from this thread! A good lay-out, excellent information, reads easily .. top thread in my opinion
great work snitch!!!
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It was a little clumsy at first but it slides and is rather easy to use once you get the handle of it. BPEL is easy enough, using two hands to press the ruler into your pelvis as the other one adjusts the sliding edge. BPFSL you measure from an area you don't have to press into which allows you to stretch with one hand and work the slider with the other - though you do have to measure your BPEL this same way, at least for the purpose of TGC.
I think this is the best ruler to use for all claimed gains. It will help rule out photoshop skeptics and and other tricks people want to site in order to "disprove" PE. I'm working out a neat way to use mirrors as a back drop in order to take before and after pictures, so the penis and ruler are easily viewed but would be extremely difficult to photoshop with ease because of the lighting and images from the mirrors.
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For a guy in my first week of PE I'm really thrilled with this post. A lot of the information I had read already but the stuff about TGC was very interesting and prompted me to revise my current routine. Thank you sir, and well done!
Great post (you clearly put a lot of time into this ) but I disagree on one account.
BPEL is a pretty strict measurement. The ruler is firmly pressed against the pelvic bone to avoid deviation, and maximize consistency. Your wording of 'modest' pressure, may cause some users to experience variances in their measurements, based on how hard they press. I agree that there's no reason to cause physical pain or bruising in a failed effort to score 1/16 extra. However, a true BPEL measurement must be precise, since PE is generally a slow process, and minor changes must be somehow recorded.
Anyway, just my opinion. Sorry to nitpick on a small syntax issue. It's just that I made the error of taking a sort of relaxed "bone pressed" measurement early on, and now I'll never know what my true starting measurement was. Not bitter - just trying to prevent new guys from making the same mistake.
That aside, good post, Snitch.
) but I disagree on one account.BPEL is a pretty strict measurement. The ruler is firmly pressed against the pelvic bone to avoid deviation, and maximize consistency. Your wording of 'modest' pressure, may cause some users to experience variances in their measurements, based on how hard they press. I agree that there's no reason to cause physical pain or bruising in a failed effort to score 1/16 extra. However, a true BPEL measurement must be precise, since PE is generally a slow process, and minor changes must be somehow recorded.
Anyway, just my opinion. Sorry to nitpick on a small syntax issue. It's just that I made the error of taking a sort of relaxed "bone pressed" measurement early on, and now I'll never know what my true starting measurement was. Not bitter - just trying to prevent new guys from making the same mistake.
That aside, good post, Snitch.
Snitch, thank you for your explanation!
ThirdArm, that was my next question. I was unsure how far to press but I'm glad to know I've been doing it correctly as I've been pressing all the way to obtain my BPEL.
ThirdArm, that was my next question. I was unsure how far to press but I'm glad to know I've been doing it correctly as I've been pressing all the way to obtain my BPEL.
this is awsome thank you so much and something about the strech i didnt get yet should i grip behind the glans like a few milimeter from it or an inch from the glans (from where they are ending)
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If you're doing BPEL, as thirdarm mentioned, you'll want to press against the fat pad with significant pressure, I wrote modest because I was thinking about my ruler (the one I put a picture of) and if I press that too hard I will cut myself. For TGC you just need to find the difference between erect and stretched - by placing the ruler against the crevice of your pelvic you don't have to press very hard since it's bone and you don't have to worry about the stretching that occurs with the fatpad when you take your BPFSL; you'll still get a good reading even if it's 0.5-1" bigger than what you actually are.
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Right behind is fine. I use the glans as a little "anchor" point for my stretches - with a little baby powder you shouldn't slip past them, and you don't have to grip as hard as you would an inch back since there is flesh in the way of your hand.
Very nice Snitch and reps to you! I'm approaching the end of the JP90 and only now do I learn that the end of session warm down should have been a cool down to lock in gains. Maybe that's why I'm not getting length (at 6.25 for 2 months)? It also seems I'm at the extreme limit of my tunica as BPEL = BPFSL and EQ is a 10. My girl complains about me getting too hard if you can believe that. Apparently she likes it to be a little bit softer. So what's a better length exercise now that I'm conditioned? Just pulling in all the directions for 30 minutes 5 days a week doesn't seem like I'm doing enough.
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Bump. Can we get this stickied or added to one of the beginner sticky threads or something? It's well worthy of it
