x4 labs and jelq question

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so im looking at x4 labs deluxe. how do i know if im big enough to use this product?
im BPEL 6" BPFSL 6.5" EG 5"
will this work for me? or do i need to get the mini? this come in a plain blank box right?

also i would like to get a jelq as well, to help get faster result? i want to gain as much as possible and asap.
so what is a legit jelq or what would you reccomend? brand?

from what i have heard you warm up then jelq for about 20 min? and to be able to use the extender, you need to be flaccid? and you cant have it on while sleeping? but you can be laying or sitting just cant be sleeping?

also i get a boner really easily. i mean even when im just talking to a girl and for some reason if we just talk dirty and i think about it. i get the boner in a heart beat. i guess i dont really care about that, seems like its a good thing. but sometimes it kind of suck, if you know what i mean. also i cant last that long, lets say im fucking a girl and im going fast, i would have to stop or i would have came. like cant even make it to 20 seconds, i have to pull it out. this sh*t sucks so badly.

sorry if i keep changing the size of my tingle, im pretty sure i got it right now.

dammit i just want my dick BIG.

 

[not2big]

If your NBPFSL> 4.75, the Deluxe will work fine for you. If you are under 4.5, you will need to order the small size cradle (an additional $50). See my thread "Small size X4 extender cradle" a bit further down in this forum. If your NBPFSL is between 4.5 and 4.75, it's your decision.

I wear mine at night, but I wake up after an hour due to the discomfort. I would recommend using an alarm clock set at one hour.

 

[blancodb]

so im looking at x4 labs deluxe. how do i know if im big enough to use this product?
im BPFL 3.40 inch NBPFL 2.50 and flaccid girth is about 3.75 inch, on the glans is probably about 3.5 inch
will this work for me? or do i need to get the mini? this come in a plain blank box right?

also i would like to get a jelq as well, to help get faster result? i want to gain as much as possible and asap.
so what is a legit jelq or what would you reccomend? brand?

from what i have heard you warm up then jelq for about 20 min? and to be able to use the extender, you need to be flaccid? and you cant have it on while sleeping? but you can be laying or sitting just cant be sleeping?

also i get a boner really easily. i mean even when im just talking to a girl and for some reason if we just talk dirty and i think about it. i get the boner in a heart beat. i guess i dont really care about that, seems like its a good thing. but sometimes it kind of suck, if you know what i mean. also i cant last that long, lets say im fucking a girl and im going fast, i would have to stop or i would have came. like cant even make it to 20 seconds, i have to pull it out. this sh*t sucks so badly.

sorry if i keep changing the size of my tingle, im pretty sure i got it right now.

dammit i just want my dick BIG.

I don't think you'll need the mini. It does come in a discreet mailing package if that is what you mean. Yes, you wear the device flaccid (although I have found that getting a small amount of erection/blood helps to engorge the head and actually helps penis stay nicely strapped in), and you should not wear it while sleeping.

I got the deluxe recently too and have been wearing it for about a week. I love it! Due to the penis head getting cold, perhaps numb, blue, etc. you'll probably find you may need to take it off after an hour or so and put it back on after depending how tight you strap it on. I don't slip out, at least not with the comfort strap which is the only thing I have used..I can walk, sit, do whatever. However, I'm sure you've read other people have had the problem of slipping.

I'm not sure what you mean of a legit jelq brand...a jelq is a hand exercise and you'll find information on it here.

 

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@ not2big - why are you wearing it when your asleep? i thought your not suppose to? but i dont get why you cant?


@ blancodb - yea think i will have to get the mini. yeah i found information here about the PE, jelq, etc... but im not for sure how to do it the right way. CAN SOMEONE FIX THE VIDEOS, PLEASE?

but i would still like to use a jelq device and i would just like to buy the x4 labs jelq so i dont have to do a lot of transactions and its only $10. but im not sure how big you have to be to be able to use the x4 labs jelq device.

 

[not2big]

@ not2big - why are you wearing it when your asleep? i thought your not suppose to? but i dont get why you cant?


@ blancodb - yea think i will have to get the mini. yeah i found information here about the PE, jelq, etc... but im not for sure how to do it the right way. CAN SOMEONE FIX THE VIDEOS, PLEASE?

but i would still like to use a jelq device and i would just like to buy the x4 labs jelq so i dont have to do a lot of transactions and its only $10. but im not sure how big you have to be to be able to use the x4 labs jelq device.

I use the extender at night because that is when it is easiest for me to use it without detection. I am not a young guy, so I don't sleep that soundly and wake up regularly during the night to pee. I would not recommend any one else to sleep with it on unless they have an alarm set for a one hour wake up.

Check your NBP flaccid stretched length. If it exceeds 4.75", you definitely do not need the mini. If you determine you need the mini, you are also probably too short for a jelqing device as well. When I made my own jelqing device, my NBPFSL was 4.5 - 4.75 and my remaining foreskin (I am cut) got in the way of the rollers.

Before you even consider an extender, read up on measuring methods and take a good NBPFSL measurement. Also, if you are new to PE, complete the JP Newbie routine before considering any advanced PE routines. Hand jelqing can increase your length so you can better fit into the extender.

 

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i never do PE or anything except that i do masterbate a lot like everyday for a couple times a day lol i guess its a habbit

im sure i will need the mini. but i dont know if i should use the extender right away. like if i should do PE for a week or so first. thats why i wanted to get a jelq because i dont know how to do it right with just hands. i think i will make my on jelq device.

 

[midasman1974]

Two important things:

I would NEVER wear an extender while sleeping for at least the first month. Often, a new user can think it is on "snug" but it is actually too tight. You could wake up HOURS later with SEVERE damage to your dick! You might be able to sleep in it after absolute mastery, so know exactly what you are doing through experience, not just reading the instructions well.

Second, What do you think is so difficult about a jelq? The jelq device you are considering is not some automated machine: you STILL have to operate it with you own hands. Jelqing is easy, and as a side benefit, you get stronger hands!

So you are not confused: You begin jelqing by a minimum 5-minute warm-up (you want your tendons limber and very relaxed). Lube up your semi-erect penis, with lube on both hands. Now make an "OK" sign around the base of your penis and squeeze slightly. Holding the squeeze, slide up to the bottom of your glans (head). Stop at the head (do NOT jelq your glans, ever) and before letting go, repeat the same action with your other hand. Each jelq should take 3 or so seconds.

Nothing about this is difficult or technical. You should REALLY check out JP's 90-day beginners routine.

Again, the jelq device is a more advance toy than a tool (my opinion). And, doing regular hand jelqs requires lube: something you already have in the bathroom, probably. It will be difficult to explain why you have a modified canning jar tool in your shower!

 

[simba420]

From experience I would also advise against sleeping with the extender on. I had a JES extender a few years back and I would sleep with it. I'm a really bad sleeper and move around a lot when I am sleeping.
Well one morning I woke up and I had broken the first bar on it. D-----==== It snapped on the skinner part if you understand what I mean I dont know how yours is designed but like I said it broke and Im probably lucky I didnt stab myself in the nut or something lol. Still sitting on the fence on wether or not I should get an X4.

 

[gameup]

well i want a jelq device because i want to have fast results for girth. from what i heard or read on here, jelq device is better than just using hands. it performs better. i understand that i still have to operate it with my hand.

i will try making one and as for the extender im not sure if i should get it now or do some PE first for a month. this is going to challenge me, i have to make some time for this and that means waking up early. but i have to do what i have to do right if i want this, so yup.

 

[Panther]

Gameup, I know this is probably not what you want to hear, consider slow and steady. There is no need to go for fast results. I'm assuming you are fairly young. You have an entire lifetime of penis exercising ahead of you.

Would you expect fast results in the gym? Probably not. It is not about how fast you progress. Rather it is about progressing. Make sure to gauge your success by your forward progression not against anther person's giant wang.

Also, check out the premature ejac threads. This is a curable condition. I used to have it and don't anymore. I attribute my problem to massive amounts of masturbation to porn. Trained myself to go fast so I didn't get caught.

Go slow and last a long time. That will also help your penis size because you will keep it engorged with blood for a long time.

 

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i just got my winco jelq device. i went to freakin every store and the last store i went to which is winco.

@ panther - i understand that you cant get fast results, i was just saying that. i mean dont we all wish that? but sometimes when your fucking a girl, you just wana go rough and hard. thats what i mean and cool ill check that out

anyways im really getting into this now. i love the feeling of jelqing(the propper way). it was just hard for me tho since im small and im new to this so the skin always get caught. also when your supposed to do it 3-4 seconds, i kinda do it faster. but yea im so excited to use this jelq device i got, aka kitchen device(canning tongs).

 

[midasman1974]

If your skin is getting caught, add lube, add lube.

 

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hmmm i did? lol


one question
when you do the V jelq, is your hand on top of your dick or is it on bellow your dick? fingers down or fingers up?
im guessing fingers up? thats why its called a V jelq?

 

[midasman1974]

you have your palm down, curl your fingers slightly and reach under to V-jelq. Finger tips should touch your nutsack. I guess you could to it the other way, too (?) but that might be an awkward grip.