The Official Hard Flaccid Recovery Thread

[moxsum]

I think for the guys who overstretched there units.. its possible that the penis just retracted to protect itself. The muscles/pelvic floor pulled back, to protect the penis from injury. I doubt its permanent, even if its been like that for a while. The nerves in the penis can stretch a bit, how do you think you can go from a tiny little flaccid to a big full 7" cock? everything in the cock is built to expand/contract. I would be surprised if a slight overstretch caused permanent nerve damage.. highly unlikely imo. Much more likely that the nervous system in your penis freaked out, and retracted to stop you from injuring yourself for real.

Then you react to this physiological reaction by freaking out, which further aggravates your already stressed out nervous system. Which keeps it locked down. You need to relax, and make your penis think its safe to come out of hiding again. The penis is a very resilient organ. (quote form my urologist lol)

Think about how many times youve masturbated roughly, or had rough sex or anything, most of the time your dick was fine, I think this time some of just pushed a little too far and the penis says enough, and wants to go into hiding.. I do not think its permanent.. it hasnt been for me anyway, things arent 100% normal, but most of the time my dick is soft.. only occasionaly firms up a bit, and someitmes my erections are a lot stiffer then normal, but its not the end of the world.. im not gonna let it ruin my life.

 

[SuperDude]

Newbert I really do think your problem is 90% mental. You are getting way to nervous and worrisome with the girl and it is likely causing the ED. ED is often caused by stress as well. Also have you stopped looking at porn? That would probly help you, and also try having 1-3 drinks before your sexual encounters.

 

[Newbert_zero]

I know for a fact it isn't mental.
The state of mind I'm in has absolutely no effect on the state my dick is in. I could be stressing the fuck out about my dick and life in general and my dick is completely relaxed. Other times I will be completely mentally relaxed after meditation/yoga drugs whatever and my dick is still tensed up.

Everyone thinks that your dick follows your state of mind but I'm finding it the other way around.

When my dick is relaxed I can finally relax. When my dick is tensed up I start to tense up.

So based on that people say I should just relax an my dick will follow. But it doesn't happen.

The state my dick is in seems to be completely random despite what's going through my mind.

It's a physical thing trust me. That's not to say at least a small part of it isn't mental. But the majority is physical.

As far as losing my virginity I don't know if I even want to anymore. I almost think it would be better to live in a state of ignorance and never start a sex life than to live a crippled one.

Just one story on someone who had a bad case of hard flaccid who completely recovered would give me so much hope. But after literally searching the whole Internet the only thing I find is horror stories or people who probably just overtrained and thought they had hard flaccid that went away in a couple of days.

 

[Newbert_zero]

Newbert I really do think your problem is 90% mental. You are getting way to nervous and worrisome with the girl and it is likely causing the ED. ED is often caused by stress as well. Also have you stopped looking at porn? That would probly help you, and also try having 1-3 drinks before your sexual encounters.

This isnt Ed trust me. if you had it you would know. it can indirectly cause Ed but that's not what it is. I'm 90% sure I couldn't get it up because at that point in my life I had burned the sensitivity off of my dick in an attempt to heal my hard flaccid

 

[TTBB]

Newbert
Google ....‘Koro’ and ‘Genital Retraction Syndrome’ ... ' CANNABIS INDUCED KORO' .



Though the phenomena has showed up more in certain cultures .. it is not restricted to said cultures…..Isolated Koro Sufferers…. ”Cases of Koro have also been reported in most nationalities including American, European and Middle-Eastern persons. Sufferers tend to show a couple of marked differences to Asian and African Koro sufferers, mainly that they tend not to believe that genital retraction will be fatal, and that it tends to present more commonly in the context of mental illness, rather than social scares. A recent study reported on three cases of Koro in American males who all formed penis retraction beliefs after smoking Cannabis. In these cases the researchers suggested that Koro was brought on by a combination of pre-existing worries over penis shape, anxiety and bad reaction to situational cannabis use. Perhaps due to a `bad-trip' experience or its ability to trigger or exacerbate psychosis and anxiety in a minority of individuals.”


“Mad, Bad and Dangerous to Know ?
Freud believed that castration anxiety was an important stage of personality development, and although this is not a popular view among psychologists today, it is not difficult to see how Koro beliefs may relate to many common sexual anxieties. Body satisfaction and worries over correct and desirable body shape are also common, and in mental illness they may reach delusional intensity. Body Dysmorphic Disorder is a syndrome where sufferers come to believe that a particular part of their body (often regarded as quite normal by third parties) is particularly ugly, unshapely or undesirable. Whilst there is no evidence that Koro may be directly related to this disorder, it is easy to see how body concerns can be incorporated or even fuel unlikely beliefs.”

heres a link to the study of Cannabis-induced koro in Americans

Cannabis-induced Koro in Americans. [Addiction. 2001] - PubMed result

 

[Newbert_zero]

I have a weird theory do you think supplements are just like taking a drug as in it will give a certain effect but have the opposite effect over time?

What if hard flaccid is just from taking to many supplements? The fluctuations support this theory. Taking so many supplements threw my body out of wack and so my body stopped producing it's own supplements because it's relying on supplements.

 

[Newbert_zero]

Anybody not taking supplements and still experience this? The ball shrivling thing is making me think this actually does have to do with hormones. And the reason none of the hormone tests come out abnormal is because it was taken under the influence of supplements.

I've been on fish oil for a long time. After getting an injury my body went out of wack in an attempt to heal it and it overcharged my system.

What if supplements just help temporarily but make it worse in the long run? I bet if we stopped taking supplements at first our bodies would react bad because it is dependent on supplements but over time our body would start producing it on it's own naturally.

 

[LostInTorture]

Newbert this is not how the body works.
Seriously everything indicates that your problem is psychological.
Answer me this:

Are there any spots/marks/bruises on your penis?
If you prick the penis with a object, do you feel it?
Do you have any sensation problems?
Do you have nocturnal erections?

 

[fatalbazuka]

the only thing I find is horror stories or people who probably just overtrained and thought they had hard flaccid that went away in a couple of days.

yeah i seen a few of these too, and maybe ours is just a slightly worse version of theres - because we didnt acknowledge we needed to rest it immediately. and so it will take even longer to recover because we carried on forcing ourselves to use it as if nothing was wrong.

 

[Newbert_zero]

Don't you think it's possible that the supplements are having a bad effect? What if they help in the short yen but in he long term they mess you up. By making your body out of balance.

 

[Newbert_zero]

My dick looks really red and swollen and feels uncomfortable when it's erect now. Will this ever heal? I jelged way to hard and now my erections go past there maximum capacity so now everytime I get a full erection it snaps something. It's red and swollen. Do you think it could be a popped blood vessel that never healed and everytime I get an erection it reopens the blood vessel? Would it be obvious if a blood vessel snapped? Fuck I have no idea what the root of this problem is. But I need to find a solution.

 

[fatalbazuka]

dude you seriously sound like your going crazy, we all want to get this fixed, but your approach - and rushing.. will only make things worse. The sooner you accept that, the better, and the sooner you will see an improvement.

My dick 100% improves when i go outside for a walk, and take my mind off it - it then gets completely relaxed. And the days i sit inside searching for the holy 'cure' staring at my dick for hours on end, guess what, it gets worse.
Shows the mental and physical aspects are interdependant.

 

[Mr.Friend]

chill out newbert chilllllllll man. Now, I do not think you have burst something. Keep n mind it may be red because of the way you burned it.

Now for others, I am interested in this whole shocking of the pelvis using cold mild and hot water. How do I do it? How long do I do this for, and in what order? Im going to start doing this 3-4 times a day. Also, I am taking epsom salt baths now.

(Note, I almost gave in to masterbating this morning, but then came on and read the very first post. Got me to stop. But honestly it is VERY easy to resist this urge if you walk away and do something else. As a matter of fact, I am sticking to my diet and studies BUT, everytime I want to masturbate, I am going to work on my call of duty campaign!!! HAAAAA!! I wonder how far I will get into it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(second note. Ok, well, because Viagra, I hear has caused this de to the fact it literally forces blood into the smooth muscle, which is the core of the problem due to the fact the smooth muscle is tensed up and should be relaxing but forcing blood into it will just irritate it. Based on THIS notion, I find it neccesary that we do NOTTTTTT EVERRRRRRRRRRRRR, do ANY helicopter shakes, for we would be FORCING blood into the penis and into the smooth muscle, causing further irritation.

By the way, I think it would be a very good idea to actually have a clander we mark each day, just for the fuck of it, and to see how long we have been at it. NOOOOO INDUCING ERECTIONS BOYS

 

[Newbert_zero]

Ok so now my dick feels really weird its really bendable and heavy limp and deadlike. I put ice on it and it didn't shrink at all. It's very numb again the only reason I'm not really worried is this has happened several times I think. Would I know if I seriously injured something? This is either really bad and something I will never recover from or really good as it explaines why this is happening and how to fix it.

 

[fatalbazuka]

dude at this rate your dicks gonna fall off the amount your messing with it. your just messing up recovery each time you mess with it.

You seem to want answers instantly, the only way your going to get them is if you go to a doctor asap and seriously pressure them to check you out, if they say nothings wrong, give them an extensive list of your symptoms, and tell them how long its been going on for with no improvement, say you have tired everything and nothing is working.
get as many blood tests, and xrays, scans etc as you can.

 

[Newbert_zero]

dude at this rate your dicks gonna fall off the amount your messing with it. your just messing up recovery each time you mess with it.

You seem to want answers instantly, the only way your going to get them is if you go to a doctor asap and seriously pressure them to check you out, if they say nothings wrong, give them an extensive list of your symptoms, and tell them how long its been going on for with no improvement, say you have tired everything and nothing is working.
get as many blood tests, and xrays, scans etc as you can.

Why hasn't anyone else done this though. When I went into the urologist I never even mentioned pe and just told him a list of my symptoms. Maybe if the knew it was caused by pe they would help? Idk

Alot of times when I get high I convince myself none of this is real cause I can still get a massive erection it just feels unnatural. After getting high and masturbating for 2 hours twice I woke up with a massive erection this morning. WTF man maybe my dick is just in shock after recovering from an injury but now it's not used to the new size and can't sustain it so my dick goes into hiding cause it's shell shocked. If that's the case maybe I need to masturbate more so it adjusts. I don't know though. Maybe getting high just pumps so much blood into my erections that my body isn't used too.

So hard to quit masturbating when it makes it seem like all my problems arnt real cause I can still get an erection.
Idk but I think it's safe to say we just overdid it one day and our dicks just couldn't take anymore. I feel like all that jelging and pulling was just chocking and strangling my dick. Weird when I get high I have an unconscious fear of my dick being ripped in half from pulling. Maybe I just scared the fuck out of it. And it's in defense mode. I say all this but then in a couple of hours something else will happen then I'll come up with another theory as to what the problem is. And I'll come up with another crazy solution.

But ya do any of you think it's possible that the supplements have been fucking with our hormones? If my balls wenrt shrinking I wouldn't consider it possible that it's hormonal. But if we are having ball problems as well we should take that into consideration.

 

[TTBB]

NEwbert CALM DOWN
and listen to what people are telling you .
i suspect the reason why people have not answered your supplemental overdose theory is because its not likely ..
The consensus if you read what people have been saying to you is .. your mental state is effecting your penis state
Yes you have injured it at some point and you did burn it.
but the information you post is erratic .. one minute its good then its not.. one minute supplements have cured it then they are the problem... the state of your penis seems to shift with your mood...AND you are def over focused on it meaning that any little thing becomes a huge thing ..
Now its probably a situation of what came first the chicken or the egg.. ie the mental side vrs the injury

I think most of us believe if you deal with getting your head right and your general body health ..then your penis will follow.
and until you can stop tinkering with your cock while its in recovery people will have limited sympathy.
You need to get on top of your mental health .. that has to be controlled i suspect that is part of the reason why the injuries first came about... you need to deal with your fear of dying a virgin, you need to deal with your obsession with your cock, you need to deal with your depression and anxiety.. until you do this then you will be fucking yourself and your penis over... what you are describing does sound like penis panic ..

 

[moxsum]

Hey newbert..

im like in the same boat.. normally I can get a good erection, just feels a bit different.. but normally my dick isnt firm flaccid anyway.. right now it feels unusually light a lot of the time? which is a relatively new symptom, but its connected to my pelvic floor.

Ive also thought a number of times that my balls were shrinking only to have them seem normal within a week or something. I think were both just focusing too much on every little thing, try not to analyze every little change going on down there.. It may be that the pelvic floor issue is changing the blood flow/nerve flow to the area causing lots of odd symptoms, but I doubt any of it is permanent. Also if you can still get a good boner, chill.. you can bone girls no problem. Ive had these issues on and off for a while now, but it never stopped me from boning my girl regularley and she never seemed to notice lol.

 

[moxsum]

Probably the most frustrating part for me is the mantal part..

Because my dick has changed in some unusual ways over the past year.. its made me super aware of my dick.. and now also have some anxiety/fear of injuring my dick from trivial things.. like just mastrubating, i start fearing I will injure a nerve or something like taht, but i know its totally crazy..

I used to wack off pretty intensely for years, this whole problem makes me feel ike my dick is somehow vulnerable and easily injured, but thats just not true, the penis is very resilient.. I really think if this sh*t didnt effect me mentally at all, it wouldnt be much of a problem.

ugh..

 

[SuperDude]

Newbert your problem is not with your penis. You have really bad anxiety and stress issues. Its a fact that anxiety and stress will cause ur dick to shrivel. Im 100% sure that the reason u couldnt get erect with that girl is because your mind wasnt in the right place.