Wikileaks!
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Good article - don't really agree with it, but good nonetheless. And true - it may be "legal" but it may not necessarily be "ethical." Fine line there. It's like reporters breaking news on troop movement - huh? Really? You are just going to give the world our troops location? You're gonna bring a camera on the beach and broadcast a covert operation to the world? Legal? Under the law, certainly. But is it really the right thing to do? Believe me - I'm one for getting to the bottom of things as much as the next guy but I just think there are other ways to do it.
In my opinion Wikileaks is some sort of government, CIA, Black Ops operation that is designed to reveal unimportant documents that aren't really all that threatening to the power structure and deem it as a national security threat to pass new legislation for cyber security and internet control.
I do not want power in the hands of "every man." That is suicide. There are too many dumb ass people out there. The problem is a political scientist is given the same 1 vote as some inbred hillbilly who thinks people live inside the TV. Majority rule doesn't work in mental institutions.
Completely flawed logic imo. For one there is nothing more ethical than exposing the severe BS these sadistic bastards have been up to. And "I'm one for getting to the bottom of things as much as the next guy but I just think there are other ways to do it.". What are these other ways? How do you propose this happens? It's like saying, hey these drug dealers broke the law, we will let them appoint a Judge, run the trial and pick the jury ..then justice can be served. Getting to the bottom of things is rarely if at all possible in this current state of the world by going through 'proper' channels, the same ones breaking the law control the law. The only way to get to the bottom of it is to expose them by any means available and that is what is happening, and you can bet your ass they do not like it.
Plausible if it were somehow possible to control the internet. This is not something they can control, I am sure they will try but they will not be able to stop the spread of leaked info any more than they can stop file sharing. That is unless they shut down the internet completely.
-As you can tell I am a bit passionate about this. I feel as if humanity has been reborn and for the first time in centuries power is shifting back to the people. The citizens of the internet are becoming the new global super power.
No, they aren't, anonymous is pointless and almost useless. They will remain being cyber terrorists and vigilantes, but they will never be anything resembling any kind of a super power.
Who said anything about anonymous? They are like 9,000 strong so big whup. I'm talking about the 100's of millions of people not only praising the actions of Wikileaks, but are now developing a thirst for the truth. This is going to change things more than you think. The biggest super power in the world can't stop a few activists on the internet, so who has the power now?
it's a few nobody cyber bullies trying to make a name for themselves. They really aren't a big concern. When a few get put away for decades for their shenanigans, the others will stop.
GTO
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Yep, we can see. But let's try to keep it to a low simmer - conversation should be civil ...
GTO
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And a former sailor here - hence one reason why we see what others don't ... but it's cool - we need the other side too ...
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One CIA agent, who willingly puts himself in a dangerous situation, compared to hundreds of thousands of civilians?
The rest of the world is laughing at the two so called "superpowers" right now. China trying to censor CNN and BBC and the United States desperately trying to cover up, censor, hunt down, prosecute and even attack wikileaks. No one is really sure who is worse, but both look equally bad to the civilized part of the world. What's even worse is that the citizens seems to be brainwashed in both countries into thinking that the governments attempts at covering up every malaction (read: genocide) is for some kind of "greater good", and that the exposers (BBC, wikileaks) are the evil guys.
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In Australia, I am amused that a senior australian politican is effectivly a US spy. His attempts in the paper today to put spin on it, were particularly mirthfull. Lucky we don't take pollies too serious.
