"From PE to MMO"- Minuteman's Orgasmic log

[Minuteman]

I plan to devise a workout routine for kegeling in such way that it can be done daily but not over strain the muscles. The point of this work out is more flexibility, control and persistency rather than jutst raw power.

For the sake of presentation and wishing to keep this all in one place i will list the kegel r/kegel variations and their descriptions if somebody notices something wrong or has another variation to contribute please do so.

Ok.

EDIT: For the updated list go here.

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Flacid Forms
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Flaccid forms means just that, a exercise done while flacid or 40-50 erected not more, this is because in the beginning steps we wish to avoid injury that can be done while fully erect. Even if you are advance go trough this exercise honestly and the you will know if your pelvic floor muscles are really ready for more.

Regular Kegel :

Done flaccid, or at 40-50% of erection

It is done by clenching and relaxing the muscles just behind your balls, the point of focus should be that spot even if another stuff (like anus or lower abs) move. The idea of this practice is building a regular strength in pelvic floor area, rising awareness of that muscle group so that one can notice when it is tensed during the sessions, and for better control. They should be done not to strong but not too weak, and at a medium pace.

Root Lock Kegel:

It is done by clenching and relaxing your anus, the point of focus should be that spot even if another stuff (like behind the balls or love abs) move. The idea is helping the body to differentiate between those and the regular kegels. Both of the types of the kegels are useful for adding the control and balancing the muscles to probably avoid fatigue and maybe injury. I noticed that if i do to many of the regular kegels and not much of those, that my muscles tiering faster. Take notice that you are generally using the same muscle but strengthening the different part of it, which will help do add the power to the kegel hold during DO, at least until you are experienced enough just to use muscles behind your balls to do it.

In most of the next exercises the spot behind the balls and the anus should be contracted at the same time to increase the effect and there is not much point in doing them separate (at least for now), however one can do them apart if one desires so... the point of Root Lock Kegel is more helping you differentiate than anything else.

Rapid Kegels/Root locks

Done flaccid, or at 40-50% of erection

As fast as you can clench and de clench the pelvic floor muscles, the clench strength should be medium to low, the point of interest is speed and coordination, make your kegels same but very fast and synchronized. The idea behind this is rising the coordination and the flexibility, and since it is low in power it is a good massage technique for preventing the fatigue.

Whisper kegels/root locks

Done at any point, but should be done in both flacid and fully erect state. The kegel and root lock variation shold be done separate here.

Kegel is not all about power and speed as much as it is about the control and the technique. The idea is to do kegels as week as you can to the point that you can just barely feel them, in the way you feel your pulse. The speed should be moderate and closer to your pulse.

This one is usually never done, but it helped me allot for cultivating wave/rolling orgasms. Also it will help you easier to notice those unconscious kegels that you tend to do sometimes.

Wave Kegels

This one should be done at flaccid, and latter on when more experienced at full erect state.

The idea is to create a sort of wave in your pelvic floor area. In other words first you clench behind your balls then declench and clench your anus then declench and clench behind your balls. The power and speed aren't that important as is important not to stop but go from kegel to root lock without pause.

The good thing about this one if that it helps you coordination. The exercise is flesible so that you can them with rapid kegels and root locks, or whisper kegels or root lock, and for those that what even more you can do it with kegel holds.

Notice how it makes you feel when starting with a root lock and when starting with a kegel, i for example notice the difference. Also try to focus on the wave like sensation it can give to you at the PONR, it might help you achieve interesting stuff

SloMo Kegel/Root lock

In flaccid.

Start by slowly clenching your kegel for 5 seconds, then slowly de-clench for 5 seconds. This is an advance form and should be done when you are feeling at home with the regular kegels. later on you can keep it at 5 seconds or rase it to more, but notice that here you should not hold, just clench and de-clench. The accent here is on slow/gradual progression.

Whisper Kegel/Root lock hold akka the Half-Kegel. tnx to sgrrsh26 for bringing my attention to this one. Original topic here.

Instead of doing a regular whisper kegel/root lock, just do a very very weak kegel hold, so weak that you can just barely feel it. Experiment with root lock and whisper kegel variation. This should be mostly done in erect state, where the results can be seen easier.

The good thing about this exercise/hold is that it can eliminate unconscious kegeling and there fore help in lasting longer, since it isn't strong so it wont bring you to PORN faster, but it won't allow unconscious kegels. I'm yet to verify this, but is sounds very logical.

sgrrsh26 have reported that it helps him in lasting longer.

The strength of the hold should be weak to very weak, but as sgrrsh26 says, one should find his own "sweet spot", in other words his own strength that fits one best.

Kegel/Root Lock Hold

Done in flaccid state

Easy, clench your kegel then wait a few secconds then release. In the beginning limit yourself to 5 seconds then go to 10 seconds, if you wan't to go higer go, however i see little point in holding the kegel for more than 20seconds, at least in this exercise. In this exercise concentrate more on the lasting of the kegel than the strength of the clench

This is solely for the muscle strength.

Power kegel/root lock

Done in flacid state

In this one you are to hold the clench the muscles as strong as you can then release. This is used to increase the strength.

Reverse Whisper kegel/root lock

Do a kegel hold then de-clench just a little and then clench it back, do not de-clench all the way, just enogh that you feel the de-clenching.

This one is useful to teach you and make you aware of the fact that your kegel hold while preforming a DO is always weakening just a little bit, so in order to prevent it from fully de-clenching or de-clenching to much you clench it again. It also builds strength because it is it is a kegel hold.

In actuality you are doing this when you do the regular kegel hold in the beginning, because you are trying to make the hold the same intensity but are gradually weakening the clench.

The useful variation in helping get a stronger kegel hold is to clench stronger after each little de-clench. This helps build more power.

Triangle Kegel/Root lock Hold

This one is more advanced and it is done in flaccid.

When you can do a kegel hold for 10-15 seconds start this one.

Lets pick the 15 seconds. For the first 5 seconds slowly clench you muscle, then at the top strength hold for 5 second, then SLOWLY release for 5 seconds. This is probably one of the hardest one to master, again the accent is on being gradual. This is like doing a very slow push-up.

Breathing kegel/root lock hold

Done in flaccid.

Do a kegel hold, but try to breathe as normally as you can. For those people like me who have problems in separating the muscles, this exercise is probably the hardest, and requires much concentration, especially when edging.

Reverse kegels/root lock

In may ways an advance form of kegel and reported to help to allot of people in having better control over the premature ejaculation issues. This is done in order to trach your body to relax those muscles. As the time passes in learning one will learn to simply relax those muscles rather than doing the reverse kegel, but it may take a while so revese kegels should alway be a part of the work out routine.

The point of focus here is a little bit different, while the root lock variation is more or less the same (be careful not to sh*t your self if you do it to strong lol) the kegel variation is now focused on the behind the balls area and the area around your penis.

The root lock variation is done by trying to fart or to sh*t out (of curse without the sh*t), in other words you asshole should open a little bit, and the area between your anus and between anus and balls should feel a little inflated.

The kegel variation is a little bit harder and the idea is that the anus should not move at all and that you should try to inflate the area between your belly and your dick and the area between anus and balls, this one is allot easier to do while erected. One more way of finding the right muscles for this is trying to force the urine to flow much faster out than usual, you might remember doing this while you pee in hurry

In difference with regular kegels/root lock, you should not aim to do them as strongly as you can, but more medium to week, because there are here to relax your muscles more than than to build them up, but that does not diminish the importance of it.

You should do them after any stronger kegel exercise (triangle hold, or power kegel etc).

Also the
-Whisper kegel/root lock
-Wave kegel/root lock
-Breathing kegel/root lock

Should be also done but with reverse kegels/root lock instead of the regular.

Member contributions:

Endymion:
One thing that I noticed about RKs is that they're much easier to do without (as much) abdominal interference if you do it with a straight back or with your lower back tucked in. If slightly hunched then I find my abs engaging.

Master SloMO

This one should be done flacid first.

This is an advanced form that should be done when totally at home with many forms of keggels that are mentioned here.

Start by slowly doing a kegel then at the peak slowly de-clench but instead of stopping when fully de-clenched do a reverse kegel slowly, then relax slowly and do a kegel and so on.

It is generally not a hard thing to do, but you can alway make it harder by seting a fixed time of clenching and de-clenching, for example if you do each for 5 seconds you will end up with a 20 second SloMO

Master Wave kegels/root locks

Do a root lock, then instead of toing a kegel, do a reverse root lock then do a kegel and after that reverse kegel, then proceed to a root lock and so on. This is also a good massage relaxation exercise you should not be bothered much with power and speed but coordination and flexibility.

You should also do regular wave kegels because they are much better for getting in the mood.

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Erect forms
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========Caution!==========
All of this exercises mentioned before could and should be done in erect forms, but one should first be at home with the flacid forms in order to avoid potential problems and injury because when you are erected you don't feel much pain and there fore are not aware of the muscle that you are overworking, so in order not to make a blunder you should have a good developed and flexible pelvic floor muscles before going to erect forms.
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Pelvic Lift Variation tnx to smallpackageRay and his wife for this one, original topic here.

Step 1 - Lay on floor on your back (non-prone position) with knees bent. Hands should be on floor next to your hips.
Step 2 - Tighten abdominal as you raise hips from floor until back is straight from shoulder blades to knees. Hold this position. If need be use hands to support hips.
[/b]Step 3 - Do a kegel/root lock *[/b]
Step 4 - Lower hips back to floor before doing another set.

*You can do any kegel/root lock exercise here, flacid, erect and full erect variations, also you can do the reverse kegels and its variations

Now, the good thing about this practice is that is isolates the pelvic floor muscles quite naturally and forces you to engage them only. The other good ting about it is that you can do any of the exercises.

Towel Raises

Done while erect.

Simply, place a towel over your dick and try to raise it. In beginning use some light towels and when your muscle becomes stronger slowly increase weight but NEVER GO TO FAR.

It is natural for your dick to lose the EQ after a few towel raises so edge it untill the EQ is around 8-9, you should not be doing this on EQ 10 since it can lead to injuries because your dick is then to stiff and even moving it means problems.

Rubber Band kegel variation

When fully erect place the elastic part of your briefs/shorts/whatever on your dick and do a kegel, this can be use to add even more resistance to erect kegels in other word you can do any exercise that has been done in flacid state and erect state with this.

If you want even more resistance pull the elastic part closer to your glands. You should be doing this rubber band kegeling ONLY WHEN YOUR MUSCLE IS VERY WELL DEVELOPED AND YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH DOING THE TOWEL RAISES.

I probably won't be doing this variations since i see no point in going that far....

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These are probably all the forms of kegels that i have been doing, some more some less. Now all that is left is striking a balance between them all and selecting a good well rounded every-day work out routine, and crating a erect routine that i will do once or twice a week.

If you have some ideas of remarks on descriptions, or if you thing that i made some horrible mistake please say so

 

[Pegasus]

Well I am impressed, remember the importance of balance MM.

 

[Minuteman]

Thank you, as i gain more experience my descriptions will probably be even more precise. Reverse kegels are my weak point, so i didn't add much as much information as i wanted. Also in the past you have brought to my attention that it is not all in power and i took that to hearth.

Now just to work out the balanced work out, for both flaccid and erected exercises...

 

[joeboy]

Ok hey guys I've been getting DOs on and off now. Pretty cool. But yesterday and today, I managed to stop ejaculation, but after the orgasm, but dick would go soft, right away. That's weird.. Is it weird?

 

[Minuteman]

Maybe you are overdoing it, or maybe the DO made you even horny before because it was the new thing.

Generally both things happen to me, but i always feel much less satisfaction after the first DO so I more or less try to have my fun before the DO then do the DO and if i feel like it I continue for some more just to teach the brain no to go limp, but if i can't i don't force it.

I guess that when i have sex i won't have the lack of stimuli needed to continue after that DO, but now days my penis slowly goes limp since i lose interest... So as far as i know it isn't weird, but Pegasus will have a final say in this since he is much more experienced than me in that department.

 

[joeboy]

After my first DO tonight, I just tried to stimulate my dick to erection again, and got a DO again, but same thing my dick just gone soft. lol.

Yes. I ALWAYS feel much less satisfaction too, after the first DO. But at the first few times that I got DO, my dick would be just as hard, it's just my arousal dropped. This time, both my erection and arousal is gone.. What is the problem? How can I overcome it?

 

[Pegasus]

Two different things can happen. Sometimes you can ejaculate back into the bladder, as you have ejaculated, you will lose erection in the normal way. This is a timing issue. The other possibility is that your body is used to losing erection after orgasm and is shuting it down. This is just a matter of geting your system used to non ejaculate orgasms through practise.
In your case, I suspect you have lost your timing a little and are having retro.

 

[Minuteman]

The way i know that i have retro for example is that distinctive feeling of not being able to touch my head anymore at the point that it is almost painful, and if i continue the stimulation i have an urge to pee, and of course my pee isn't clear. I mostly force myself to pee after any session to see if i'm doing things right, and even have a special glass for pee (lol) to see is it clear or not, but most of the time you just know when it is a clean DO (because everything feels natural and there is no pressure or pain)

During the normal DO sometimes just my arouse level would fall down but my erection will last for a minute or so and gradually go limp because there is no arousal to keep it up, plus i lost the all the sensitivity in my head. This it probably my body saying (or thinking) that it can't make new sperm even after reabsorbing the one in there, but i'm just guessing here, plus the brain isn't used to that.

During other times my EQ will fall down to 8-7 but my arousal is moderate so i can go on and my penis will return to EQ 9 but for some time i would feel nothing much down there.

 

[Pegasus]

If you have a DO and maintain erection but lose sensitivy, sometimes driving kegels and imagery can return it.

 

[Minuteman]

Another retro ejaculation... what way to start a day

And i almost knew that it is gonna end that way, there was no gradualness in my approach, it is my damn ego that i can't overcome. It is hard to be observant to connect with your self when your libido and eq are low.

Any way, even after my one day break my libido and my eq are terrible, so terrible in fact that even my penis size dropped down.

The things i noticed are, that the lower your eq the harder is to time the kegel right.

But i though i timed it right, because i have done it by reflex. But when i released the kegel after the spasms where gone, my penis continued to spasm like ejaculating but nothing came out, somehow i didn't remember to stop them, because they probably triggered the "i ejaculated now going limp" signal.

Even if i did stop watching porn i don't think it is because of that, maybe my body is trying to tell me something. maybe i'm stressed of but just don't notice. My libido is low and not even all the porn in the world couldn't probably change that now.

The problem now is that i'm in that negative cycle, rather in the positive one. And i need to find a way to get out of it, the MMO mastery isn't just about having multiple orgasms it is also about being able to regain the EQ at will with no forcing, i have to learn how to rise my libido without forcing it, and i have to learn how to accept the good and the bad days. Well nobody said it's gonna be easy right?

It is easy to master stuff when your libido and eq are soring high, when you ride the positive wave.

I am in no way sad, i am a little pissed of but is see this as yet another task to overcome on my road to MMO. Having the right mindset and not allowing your self to be brought down by a minor setbacks is a way to go. Now if i can apply all of this wisdom that would be great.

 

[Pegasus]

Even young men have ups and downs in libido mm . A good surfer lets the bad waves go by and does not fret,when a good wave comes he is ready.

 

[joeboy]

Nicely said Pegasus!

 

[Minuteman]

Imagine you wake up with your body aching and you head hurting, and you hate the world. And then you edge, and all the pain is gone, you head is clear and you love the world. Talk about a good medicine,eh?

Well that is exactly what happened to me.

Last night when i went to bead my libido was minus infinity, but even so started doing some sensate focus (in other words touching myself for the sake of touching myself, no ulterior motives involved). I recalled how in some point during the day i felt like my deletion of porn was a bed idea, and even though about searching for it again, but i'm glad i said "fuck no". So while touching myself i decided deiced to use my brain and crate a story, i doesn't have to be erotic just a story and well see where it will lead me.

As the story in my head progressed my penis decided that he want to join in to and started to get hard, now the smartest thing i did was not edging it, just continuing the sensate focus and the story, teasing myself more and more. After some time when he was ripe the edging began and it lasted for quite some time. But at the end of the edging session i decided not to ejaculate nor do, so i just calmed myself and went to sleep.

So back to this morning, as i said i wake up more or less felling like sh*t with no morning wood and all the pain and hate for the world. But then i continued my story from the last night and my penis was more than happy to oblige with constant EQ of 8-9.

The session lasted around 20-25 minutes and 15 minutes was dancing around ponr, getting in and out of wave orgasms and testing my kegels.

As the end came i tried to do, but my muscle was just not strong enough and i got a dribble to that continued into ejaculation (Actually i let it ejaculate, and that is a good move, remember IN THE BEGINNING/INTERMEDIATE NEVER RE-HOLD YOUR KEGEL WHILE DO-ing, when you become advanced you will be able to notice just when you can release and rehold, that is why technique is important, but it is also important not to do that because it results in a retro ejaculation if you don't know exactly when and how). The good thing was that it wasn't retro ejaculation.

Even so i feel good and refreshed my mind is at peace, and was now sure of several things:

First, you can't expect much from your sessions and wave orgasms if your body isn't feeling good, but it doesn't mean that you can't enjoy just don't expect to much, or better yet don't expect anything. My wave orgasms where pleasurable but very weak, and i couldn't ride the wave long, if i was inexperienced in those orgasms i wouldn't even notice them as any orgasms.

Second, solid, strong kegel muscles are a must if you with to reach higher levels of enjoyment, it doesn't have to be insanely strong but it has to be conditioned.

Third, if kegel hold a little before PONR doesn't help you lower down your erection level and get you away from PONR your PELVIC FLOOR MUSCLES ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH!

Fourth, there are many non-kegel way to retreat from PONR or to maintain a level, don't relly just on kegels when you have an arsenal, it is much more arousing to try different things your EQ will remain constant but you will be in a pleasurable area just before PONR for a longer periods of time. Experiment and in it you will boost your libido, that you can use for so many things besides just sex. It is the moving, building, creational energies that move and inspire you.

The tools include (so far i found them, there is a lot more):
- Smiling (read some of the previous post for this in detail)
- Gently stroking and pressing with your hand the point between the penis and belly button but closer to the shaft. Also experiment with the contractions there and see what happens, more on this when i learn more about it.
- Using your body as grounding, in other words imagine your dick is a lighting rod, the pleasure is the thunder and your body is the ground that absorbs it. When the "thunder" strikes it goes to the rod, and into the ground where it spreads and slowly weakens

Fifth if you can't breathe when you do a kegel hold, you are doing it wrong. While bracing muscles to intensify the kegel is a good technique later on it can fool you in thinking you have a strong kegel in the beginning, when you don't. The best way to see just how strong your kegels are is to do a Breath Kegels. Doing an erect breath kegel is even better, make sure you breath from the belly not the shoulders and upper lungs.

When doing an erect kegel notice how while holding your kegel your penis raises a little, well try holding it and breath , if it falls down you aren't able to seprate pevlic floor muscles from your lower abs.

To see how feels to hold a kegel without engaging the lower abs, tire your lover abs by moving your stomach in and out VERY fast for 30 seconds to minute, then do a kegel hold and breath in and out. Your abs will be not clench since they are tired, and you will feel exactly how it feels, remember that feeling, because that should be your goal. Once you master it, your DOs will be mich easier to perform. I know this because before i did that but didn't even notice and my DOs where good, after some time i started bracing the lower abs for more power and stopped breathing and pretty much fucked it up good, so now i have to retrain, which is harder than training.

sixth What to benchmark your kegels? Do 10 of each flacid kegels (including the reverse kegels and the mentioned variations of the revese kegels), and you will see just how developed your kegel muscles are. If your pevlic floor muscle feels very fatigued then you need more training, it is important to be honest to yourself, if you aren't if will fuck you up later on, and you will have to come back like i am now.

I did the 10 of each, and noticed that my kegel isn't good enough, plus the retro ejaculations and dribble DOs are further prof of that. The ultimate benchmark is a Breath Kegel and its EQ8-9 variation, I did it and the flacid was so-so but the EQ8-9 i FAILED MISERABLY!

seventh If you during one edging session are able to learn at least one new thing about your self, no matter how small it is. Consider that edging session successful.

Well my spirits are high and i'm ready to face the world today I hope that some of this will help you get yours up if it's down, the spirits i mean

 

[TTBB]

Maybe if you are craving porn ..instead of looking for vid clips or visual stimulus maybe look for erotic/sexual-lit. Reading things like that can help fine tune the minds imagination and helps develop mind narratives for sexual fantasy And its also normal for people to go through writers block even with fantasies .so it can be a good fallback if the mind is drawing a blank.

 

[Minuteman]

Maybe if you are craving porn ..instead of looking for vid clips or visual stimulus maybe look for erotic/sexual-lit. Reading things like that can help fine tune the minds imagination and helps develop mind narratives for sexual fantasy And its also normal for people to go through writers block even with fantasies .so it can be a good fallback if the mind is drawing a blank.

Yes i use the sex stories from time to time to fuel my imagination, it is simply that sometimes that isn't enough. And trough observing myself i noticed that my craving of porn, is more like habit than the real craving, but in moments of weakness one will search for any excuse to justify its low libido.

Also sometimes the body itself just isn't in it, and due to my ego i sometimes can't accept that. It is the ego that is my main problem in all of this, my inability to accept that there are days that just aren't good for edging. As the time passes i hope that i will mature enough to honestly not give a damn when my libido isn't high, and just have honest fun doing something else and not be bothered by it, just as i have honest fun when edging on the good days.

The good thing in all of this is that my periods of depression are much shorted than before, when i would be pissed of for days.

 

[Minuteman]

Tried out the Whisper Kegel/Root Lock hold and found it to actually prolong the PONR zone, I need more practice but it is definitely useful, although i found that the Whisper reverse kegel (no root lock) hold variation to be even more useful to me in prolonging the ponr zone/plateau.

As a result of all this fine tuning i had a clean DO (no pain, no leaking) but my erection gradually went down, some how the unconscious kegel spasms that i do after releasing the kegel hold after DO seem to be sending the signals to my brain that i ejaculated, i got to look into it more.

EDIT:

No more than 10 minutes and managed to return to EQ8 with just a little less asrousal

 

[Minuteman]

Hmm, the problem with the stronger kegel muscles is that your unconscious kegels also become stronger.

Any way i decided to take a new approach for a while and see how it works:

Instead of having a DO and just stopping there, i will have a DO and then masturbate myself until ejaculation, to try and make that as a habit. Of course this will require time but it actually might be the right way. And i will do that just when i have a clean DO. I will try to space it a little so that the DO and ejaculation aren't that close (minimum a 3 minute in between).

Since the premature ejaculation can and is mostly a thing of habit, maybe this can become one too. Meanwhile i will try and stop those spasms that occur when i release a kegel hold, it is only a question of should i do it with another kegel hold, or should i do a reverse kegel hold...

As for the kegels routine, i am doing one sporadicly with no specific number in mind:

I have been doing Breath kegels/root lock and Breath kegel/root lock hold (both flacid and erect variants), and was able to breath during a DO almost normally, and i did them like two, three days sporadicly.

Instead on normal kegels now I mostly do the wave kegels, and regularly do whisper kegels/root locks. I trow in the reverse kegel variants of wave and whisper here and there when i feel like it.

All of them are medium to week strength and i have none of the fatigue.

 

[BeatIt]

Minute
you still around man?

I dont really have time to read through the whole thread
I just wanted to touch base on something I have recently learned.. while reaching the PONR I totally clamp off my BC, when the urge subsides I let go but my penis continues to spasm.
Now normally I would try to fight these spasms thinking they would lead to ejaculation, but what I have found is that If I allow the spasms to occur, Vioala! dry orgasm!

Its a long lasting slow orgasm, and although a little fluid comes out it is not sperm

Just wanted to see your thoughts on this,
also,
my desire levels drop allowing for continued stroking, although it takes a while to get that intensity or desire going again and after the second time my EQ is shot
any thoughts?

 

[CUSP82]

This a really great thread! Kudos to you guys!

 

[Minuteman]

Minute
you still around man?

I dont really have time to read through the whole thread
I just wanted to touch base on something I have recently learned.. while reaching the PONR I totally clamp off my BC, when the urge subsides I let go but my penis continues to spasm.
Now normally I would try to fight these spasms thinking they would lead to ejaculation, but what I have found is that If I allow the spasms to occur, Vioala! dry orgasm!

Its a long lasting slow orgasm, and although a little fluid comes out it is not sperm

Just wanted to see your thoughts on this,
also,
my desire levels drop allowing for continued stroking, although it takes a while to get that intensity or desire going again and after the second time my EQ is shot
any thoughts?

Yep still around but not in the mood to edge for a good period now.

As for the spasms, yea I have them just after releasing the pelvic floor muscles, but i usually stop them since i feel almost no pleasure form them and they usually make my erection falls down much more quickly then when chose to either reverse kegel them or do a regular hold, but i'm new to that area so my knowledge is very limited but i think there is more to it. Maybe Pegasus can provide more insight. Play around more since you are in the mood.

Well first it is because you haven't got much stimulation for the second time, i mean if you where with some girl it would probably be different. Also you brain is still used to stop after "ejaculation" so it is a reflex that you will retrain in time.

Also one thing I don't know is if that will lead to retro ejaculation, since if there was emission and those muscles are spasming then the sperm must go somewhere, just for curiosity sake, piss in a cup of something shortly after those spasm (if you can) and if the piss is not clear you probably retro ejaculated, but I don't think that is the case here.


Also thanks CUSP82