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The scientist had the data the Chinese gave them. Our government as well as others were denied access to the lab and it's data. You always told me that Trump was hiding this or that but you actually think the Chinese government is being honest with the world? Why not ask the Australian government; they have been ticked for a long time. Access denied.
And please explain to me why the Chinese government closed down the city of Wuhan, no one allowed in or out but kept the airport open for outbound international flights only. Oh foreigners wanted to leave right? They were exporting the virus!!!!!
 

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I gather you don’t believe scientists talk to each other outside of official channels.
 

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I know much about China and China does what's best for China. Has anyone heard from the Wuhan doctor that sounded the alarm on covid? Dr Li sounded the alarm much to the dismay of Chinese authorities. Funny he died of covid a few weeks later at age 34 with no pre existing conditions. I know just a coincidence.
Look at China's published deathrate. You think that jives with the number of people they have? No way. When my sister in law who is Chinese would call her family in China she would ask about family and friends. They had a little code set up because they know they are being listened to. When she would ask about a friend or relative, if that person was alive her mother would say oh so and so if fine and still works at the factory. When the person she was inquiring about was dead her mom would tell her oh she's visiting her father, a man my sister inlaw knew was dead a long time ago. That's China.
 

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It’s not clear to me, and many others, that Fauci prioritized politics and self interest, but instead has dedicated his 50 years of service in the health field to the fight against communicable diseases. It is the spread of false accusations and misinformation by the far right that has casted doubt on his good intentions.

A link to the “paper trail” would be helpful. You might want to check out this source:
The email exchanges obtained through the FOIA show that Fauci, Collins, and others took the lab-leak theory pretty seriously at the same time that they were publicly calling it nonsense.

Internal discussions at Twitter that have recently been made public show that Fauci worked very hard to discredit the extremely credible authors of the Great Barrington Declaration and to conceal the publication, itself.

While I do agree that a number of things he has said have been twisted to suit an anti-Fauci narrative, he's also guilty of putting politics over science and protecting his position and ego.
 

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I worked ten years with a company owned by an ethnic Chinese family. They had family in China and traveled extensively to China on business and never once mentioned the need to talk in code or were concerned with being over heard by big brother.
 

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News Flash: ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN & MSNBC totally ignore Elon's shocking Twitter Dumps.
What . . . Michelle Obama pressured Twitter to ban #45?
51 FBI Agents SIGNED that the Hunter Laptop Tweets were Russian Disinformation!

2023 Congressional Investigations will be good, subpoenaing the 51 FBI Agents and the Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas!
Sounds good but nothing will happen to these criminals. Guess how many of them will be raided by the fbi. You guessed it, ZERO.

Meanwhile, they are already creating the hoax and narrative to raid twitter or Elon's home.
 
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I worked ten years with a company owned by an ethnic Chinese family. They had family in China and traveled extensively to China on business and never once mentioned the need to talk in code or were concerned with being over heard by big brother.
They may not have been concerned, but they were being monitored by BIG Chinese Brother!
 

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We are monitored here in America too.

Talk about wanting a new back pack near your phone, then go to Facebook and see the ads that come up.

If they monitor you for selling goods, they monitor what you say for many things
 

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I worked ten years with a company owned by an ethnic Chinese family. They had family in China and traveled extensively to China on business and never once mentioned the need to talk in code or were concerned with being over heard by big brother.
I would bet that they didn't have covid then did they? I have better things to do then to come here an lie. Hell I can do that at home.
 

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"an ethic chinese family"
End of the story...
 

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So what do you think about the FBI and Twitter? I know it made no difference. I just wonder if Trump had won and the very same info came out you don't think the democrats would be screaming the FBI influenced the election....and were told to by Trump!
 

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Twitter files are awesome. Elon is doing a great thing exposing the jerk offs in our government
 

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Most of the time people cry about freedom of speech, they misunderstand what 1A is all about. But this whole thing (not just Twitter and FBI, but other SM platforms and other government officials) is a very real reason to be very concerned.
 
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Actually, the money Twitter collected had nothing to do with censoring anyone. The money was simply given as reimbursement for the processing of legal requests, similar to how a journalist might have to pay a fee for a government agency processing a Freedom of Information Act request. As Alex Stamos, the former chief security officer at Facebook and partner at the cyber consulting firm Krebs Stamos Group said This is absolutely nothing to do with content moderation

Once again Musk is making grossly misleading claims about Twitter and the FBI. And those claims are being blindly amplified to millions by Fox News and the rest of the powerful right-wing media machine which seems to have no interest in the pesky truth and instead has repeatedly shown they’ll contort stories to fit preconceived and erroneous narratives
 

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Didn't censor anyone, lol.

It's in plain sight for all to read. Minimizing exposure to accounts is called shadow banning, shadow banning is censorship!

Elon Musk isn't making claims, he is literally showing the tweets and emails.

Some people choose to be blind with both eyes opened
 

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This whole twitter situation just exposes how rotten the nation is. And is nothing new. Remember these same criminals killed JFK. Remember these same criminals are deep into child trafficking. These same criminals are flooding the nation with drugs and illegal aliens. These same criminals orchestrate revolutions abroad to overthrow governments and create wars.

We have known all of this all along... Just like we know they rig elections and plant their puppets to carry their agendas. Just like they did in 2020 and they planted a potato in place.

But of course as always: Lower your head and repeat after me: "nothing to see here", "conspiracy theories", "not enough evidence", "fact checked"

These filthy terrorists have the audacity to call the truth a "raise of white supremacy and disinformation". And of course the propaganda outlets parrot the same narrative every day. Their useful idiots lower their heads and repeat: "twitter is irrelevant". "twitter is a center fo disinformation". "white supremacy is the biggest threat to national security"
 

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Actually, the money Twitter collected had nothing to do with censoring anyone. The money was simply given as reimbursement for the processing of legal requests, similar to how a journalist might have to pay a fee for a government agency processing a Freedom of Information Act request. As Alex Stamos, the former chief security officer at Facebook and partner at the cyber consulting firm Krebs Stamos Group said This is absolutely nothing to do with content moderation

Once again Musk is making grossly misleading claims about Twitter and the FBI. And those claims are being blindly amplified to millions by Fox News and the rest of the powerful right-wing media machine which seems to have no interest in the pesky truth and instead has repeatedly shown they’ll contort stories to fit preconceived and erroneous narratives
I think you're missing the point. The FBI (as well as DHA) was frequently flagging content to be investigated and taken down, including people making jokes about ballot counting. For the government to be asking a private platform like Twitter to do something about satire they don't like is totally inappropriate and should concern anyone who values 1A. Especially when we also know that politicians on the left and the right keep threatening social media companies with various forms of punishment and regulation.

And this shouldn't be a right-wing/left-wing thing. Much of this was happening on Trump's watch by his own people at the FBI and DHA. We also saw similar actions under the Biden administration when they successfully pleaded to have Berenson and Humphrey deplatformed and when Collins and Fauci campaigned to suppress 3 leading epidemiologists they disagreed with.

Everyone should be troubled by this.

Also, while it's true and valid that Twitter can and should be reimbursed for processing legal requests, that would be under the guise of 2703(d) requests which are in the coarse of a criminal investigation. Which require a court order. Which requires reasonable grounds. That's not what was happening here.
 
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Just think about how much safer we would all be without the pesky FBI.