Big girth no length

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Hi Guys,

I started my cock training about 1 year ago, starting measurements were 5 inches length and 4.5 girth.

Now my girth is 6 inches but my length is unchanged.

I seem to be a slow gainer on length?

I have mixed up all sorts of different programs but I have not tried hanging as yet. As far as with stretches I have not increased the intensity too much as yet.

I tend to stretch with my hands with a strongish pressure, 12 minutes duration in left, right, up, down and straightout direction. Hurts my arms as this is quite a while. I mix up the days a lot, 3 days on, 4 off and sometimes 1 on 1 off and then do a sudden 1 week complete rest, basically I mix it up every 2 weeks or so.

I continue to jelq regularly after the stretch session for about 20 mintes.

Does anyone think that to get some length I need to hang or maybe increase the intensity more.

My PI's are still good, not having any problems in that area, just would like length.

My cock looks much better, although it is 5 inches with the girth being fat it looks quite big, rather like a bulldog! But I would like some length so I could be a rotweiller!

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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You may want to try some hanging or a device of sorts. Maybe do your jelqs at a very low erection level. Try stretching with a light pressure. Slow, easy pulls.
 
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You may want to try some hanging or a device of sorts. Maybe do your jelqs at a very low erection level. Try stretching with a light pressure. Slow, easy pulls.

Thanks for the advice.

What are your thoughts on increasing the intensity as long as PI's are good? I never thought about doing lighter stretchs, I thought the idea was to increase intensity as long as PI's are good?

I mean my PI's are good in so much that errection quality and morning wood is there, I just do not seem to gain any length which would make my PI's great. The girth is just lovely but length is zero.

Should I just keep gradually increasing intensity as long as PI's stay good? I am not pulling as hard as I can, it is a fair pull but I could do harder. I obviously need to increase in baby stages?

Would appreciate any feedback.

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I use to to stretches with more force. Didn't seem to do much. Keeping the stretches at a very light pull seems too help me more. Think of it like stretching your arm. Yanking on it just doesn't do anything. Slow, easy stretches feel damn good and work very well.
 

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You gained 1½'' in girth in a years time and all you do is stretch and jelq?
 

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You gained 1½'' in girth in a years time and all you do is stretch and jelq?

I can see this. I gained 1/4th of an inch in girth my first 5 weeks. I did an unofficial measurement early today actually and I am on track for another 1/4th by the end of the month, which would only be 4 weeks since my last measurement. I actually did add some short Uli exercises in addition to jelqing...but I think most of the success is from jelqing. If i stayed on this pace I'd be at an 1.5 in 6 months ( yet to be seen) so I definitely believe this is possible in a year.
 

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I definately would NOT change your routine up that much bro. Want to stick with something consistent for at least 3 months. Maybe the reason YOU DIDNT gain any length was due to your lack of a steady routine. It is good to change your routine up BUT not so often as you were explaining. I did a 2 on 1 off for my first 3 months and saw pretty nice results. This is my 4th month and am changing to 2 on 2 off AND I added another stretch. You can pull with some force but dont pull TOO HARD...nice and smooth you know (as stated by NP97). Touch you shaft during the stretch to make sure tissue is nice and taught!
Hope this helps man!
 

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I definately would NOT change your routine up that much bro. Want to stick with something consistent for at least 3 months. Maybe the reason YOU DIDNT gain any length was due to your lack of a steady routine. It is good to change your routine up BUT not so often as you were explaining. I did a 2 on 1 off for my first 3 months and saw pretty nice results. This is my 4th month and am changing to 2 on 2 off AND I added another stretch. You can pull with some force but dont pull TOO HARD...nice and smooth you know (as stated by NP97). Touch you shaft during the stretch to make sure tissue is nice and taught!
Hope this helps man!


Thanks for your advice , greatly appreciated!

I am a little confused, let me explain -

I see the stretches that I do with my hands quite similar to hanging. I pull down for example for 12 minutes and I grdaully over a number of weeks increase the intensity. By increasing the intensity you can do this 2 ways, by increasing time (which I don't want to do as I do 12 minutes) or by force which is what I am doing.

I have read Remek's book about 15 times and he talks about many examples where guys get length gains by constantly increasing intensity (as long as PI's are good) so all I am doing is gradually pulling harder, by pulling at a constant force I guess this is what happens when you start hanging.

If you think of the hanger as your arm pulling down, with the hanger you are gradually increasing the weight (baby steps of increasing the weight as legendary Bib did as stated in the back of the book) so how different is that with your arm?

To tell the truth my arms get really tired pulling down for 12 minutes with a good steady force and getting a constant staedy force is not easy to calibrate. Hence I am thinking of hanging (which is similar to my arm pulling) and that way I can increase weight mathematically and have less stress on my arm.

I mean I do 2 sessions of 12 minutes stretches , up and then down, to hold a good steady force that long is challenging, let alone trying to callibrate for the next session whether how much to increase. With the hanger it would be easier.

Any thoughts on this guys?

I have found growing girth quite easy, the length has been zero, I stay motivated because my penis still looks quite big, its just fat and chunky but when in my hand you know there is nice volume and it feels well robust, at times I feel I could do a press up with no hands with it!!!

I am not sure how unlikely it is to gain 1.5 inches in girth, I done it but I am rather sad because I need some length, even if I got to 6 inches in length I think I would be very happy although 6 is not considered big. The girth does feel nice, in your hand as you start to get errrect it feels awesome, it really is nice, there is a brute strength about girth.
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I definately would NOT change your routine up that much bro. Want to stick with something consistent for at least 3 months. Maybe the reason YOU DIDNT gain any length was due to your lack of a steady routine. It is good to change your routine up BUT not so often as you were explaining. I did a 2 on 1 off for my first 3 months and saw pretty nice results. This is my 4th month and am changing to 2 on 2 off AND I added another stretch. You can pull with some force but dont pull TOO HARD...nice and smooth you know (as stated by NP97). Touch you shaft during the stretch to make sure tissue is nice and taught!
Hope this helps man!

I also forgot to mention that some guys when they hang they are hanging with 30 pounds of weight, how on earth could you use your arms to reach that level of force? If I am pulling with my arms and getting no negative PI's but need greater force than my arms can deliver then surely I need to hang in order to get the desired intensity (as long as PI'S stay good)?

See my point is that if I keep pulling harder and I get no gains but the PI's are good then how do I pull harder just with my arms? The arms can't hold enough for 12 minutes at a strong constant force?

I hope you understand what I am driving at?

For the guys who grow with a steady pull thats fine but what about the guys who can't? And there must be some truth in the fact that some guys need solid intensity because a lot of the guys who hanf , hang with 30 pound weights plus?

I wonder if I am making any sense?

See my PI's are great, excellent errection and morning wood, the pennis skin skin feels nice and the flacid hang is nice as well, there are no negatives other than only increase in girth, I am getting zero increase in length. All I can do is increase the intensity, slowly and gradually but I don't think my arm can hold 12 minutes of solid constant hard tug?

Magic???
 

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Even by hanging 5 lbs I have yet to feel that same intensity and fullness of a stretch via my arms.


But don't you find that if you do a 12 minute stretch your arms get tired, especially with a 5lb equivalant of force?

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Possible, just unlikely.

Very. I don't doubt his claims (because if he's lying, it doesn't effect me and it's not like deceiving others will magically increase the size of his dick), I'm just surprised. I didn't think anyone could gain 1.5'' in girth in a years time. Even with an extreme clamping regimen (let alone just simply jelqing), you'd be luck to gain an inch. I was just checking to see if it was a typo. But, I digress. Anyway, good gains Magic. Keep it up.
 

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I can see this. I gained 1/4th of an inch in girth my first 5 weeks. I did an unofficial measurement early today actually and I am on track for another 1/4th by the end of the month, which would only be 4 weeks since my last measurement. I actually did add some short Uli exercises in addition to jelqing...but I think most of the success is from jelqing. If i stayed on this pace I'd be at an 1.5 in 6 months ( yet to be seen) so I definitely believe this is possible in a year.

Black, gains aren't consistent. What you have in your case, is Newbie gains. Growth is very sporadic. Its unrealistic to assume one can gain, long term, on a constant basis like you have observed in the above qoute. If this was the case, everyone here would be 10 x 8, easily.
 

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Hey man I would be very interested in seeing before and after pictures. I'm not calling you out on BS, of course, since as Sesq points out it would be beyong rediculous for you to lie to us, but you are such a unique case. Your length hasn't grown at all while your girth has grown considerably. I think it would be very instructive and, at the least, interesting to literally observe the difference between a 4.5 inch girth and a 6.0 inch girth with the same penis length.

So, post 'em if you got 'em.
 

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But don't you find that if you do a 12 minute stretch your arms get tired, especially with a 5lb equivalant of force?

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I can't ever say that I've done a consistent 12 minute stretch, I find that after 5 minutes of stretching that starts to defeat the purpose of an actual stretch. I forget where I read it but it is only safe to manually stretch for 5 minutes because after so long something happens to your penis, just can't remember where I read it.. Somewhere in Saiyan22's log.
But I find that even a bundled stretch lasting 1.5 minutes with high intensity, yes my arm gets tired, but I don't feel the same kind of stretch I do doing that as opposed to hanging.
 

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have you considered the extender devices? apparently there is research that they really work...
 

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I can't ever say that I've done a consistent 12 minute stretch, I find that after 5 minutes of stretching that starts to defeat the purpose of an actual stretch. I forget where I read it but it is only safe to manually stretch for 5 minutes because after so long something happens to your penis, just can't remember where I read it.. Somewhere in Saiyan22's log.
But I find that even a bundled stretch lasting 1.5 minutes with high intensity, yes my arm gets tired, but I don't feel the same kind of stretch I do doing that as opposed to hanging.

It is interesting your comment about manual stretch being only safe for 5 minutes???

You see what I find confusing is that hanging for up to 15 minutes at a time is safe as long as you use sensible weights and that would be no different to maual stretch as long as tensions are the same.

So could someone clarify please if manual stretch is safe for periods up to 15 minutes?

I read in Remeks book that it is ok to extend beyound 5 minutes however there was no time limit given.

I would appreciate some advice from others.

Thanks Magic 2000
 

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have you considered the extender devices? apparently there is research that they really work...

My brother is using the extender device to help him with Peyronies (penis curve). To use this device you need to be very dedicated, it stays on 9 hours a day (you can break inbetween).

It is a irritating device in that you need to take it off every 2 hours for a rest, if your out and about it causes hassle, not un doable but it is a hassle.

If I have to to gain length I will give it a try.

Thanks for your sugestion howver, greatlly appreciated!

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Hey man I would be very interested in seeing before and after pictures. I'm not calling you out on BS, of course, since as Sesq points out it would be beyong rediculous for you to lie to us, but you are such a unique case. Your length hasn't grown at all while your girth has grown considerably. I think it would be very instructive and, at the least, interesting to literally observe the difference between a 4.5 inch girth and a 6.0 inch girth with the same penis length.

So, post 'em if you got 'em.

Thanks for your comments.

Unfortunately ( and you might think how appropriate) I don't have the equipment for doing a photo. I never took any before photos, I just measured.

I doubt I am a unique case but I agree there can not be too many juding on comments I have read over the years posted here, if you have the chance you will see in Remeks book that he says that some people are great gainers in both length and girth, some in length only and some in girth only (me). Then you have the hard gainers who don't gain in any dimension.

I am not sure about the interest in observing the difference between 4.5 and 6 inches in girth with the same penis length. Basically it just looks fatter and more solid as one would expect, hey it has more girth, have you never seen a short fat penis before? However it may just be that you have an interest in looking at a fat penis and I can understand that!

All the best.

Magic 2000