Low libido TOTAL side effects of it? Am I right?

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When one has low libido, not only does it decrease your sex drive, but doesn't it hinder blood flow to your penis throughpout the entire day? Like crappy, thin and shorter flaccids, without the spongy feeling? Becuase lower libido is mainly caused by lower testosterone, due to whatever reason, so does that lower testosterone, that is causing the low libido, send a message to your brain that you don't even need much blood in the penis anyway, since your sex drive is low? Hence why low libido causes smaller flaccids. (Im asking this on the topic of low libido's effects on flaccid state btw) Because Im about to begin Wellbutrin, as I want my flaccids hanging again, and am sick of no sex drive.. Can anyone answer me this?
 

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I would imagine, that good libido would be helpfull in the general sense for pe.
What is Wellbutrin? I take it this is a medical drug treatment for low libido? Take it you have you tried other options?
 

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I would imagine, that good libido would be helpfull in the general sense for pe.
What is Wellbutrin? I take it this is a medical drug treatment for low libido? Take it you have you tried other options?

Wellbutrin is an anti depressant that increases the amount of dopamine in your brain as well as norepinephrine by inhibiting the reuptake (prozac inhibits the reuptake of serotonin). Dopamine suppresses prolactin and other female hormones, which is why many drugs dealing with dopamine increases your sex drive...

To the OP, Wellbutrin usually has more of a noticeable effect on females than males with sex drive. Males already have roughly 10x more testosterone than women do, which is why the testosterone increase isn't really too noticeable in males. I don't think libido really matters if your penis will grow as much. A lot of people on here are concerned about 'BLOOD' as it will heal your tissues. Trust me, your body is healing your tissues and as long as you don't injure yourself badly, probably means you are healed. I wouldn't worry about not being as horny as a 14yr old boy. As long as you can get hard when you want to/need to, then you don't have low testosterone. Also if you are not sporadically developing gynecomastia (without weight gain) or lactating, then you probably don't have low testosterone. Or if your balls don't feel noticeably smaller and have less weight then you don't have low testosterone.
 
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Yea but I can barely get an erection. Sometimes, I will try with full stimulation for about 20 minutes, achieve a 5 out of ten erection for 10 seconds, and then go limp. It really is hurting me physcologically. I just cant take it any longer
 

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Don't take prescription sh*t. That is poison.
If anything go to a good endocrinologist (hard to find) and get your hormone levels tested.
 

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Don't take prescription sh*t. That is poison.
If anything go to a good endocrinologist (hard to find) and get your hormone levels tested.

Wtf poison?
 

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Wtf poison?

Prescription medicines. They are poison. They kill you with unnecessary chemicals that deposit in your body and only degrade your genes generation after generation. All that sh*t about depression, stress, anxiety, panic attacks, was invented in the last couple decades. They are an excuse from weak people to not work, and is a tool for doctors to make money. In the old days if you had to work the land, there was no time for "depression". You didn't work, there was no food. Period. The only solution was, Being a real man. All those weird psychological states, are a consequence of the lack of life management in some individuals. A person who does not have the mental capacity know to balance his own life, emotionally, reasonably, through realistic dreams, ambition and motivation, creates an imbalance that gives the opportunity to doctors to make more money using chemicals as a transitory fix, but creating a bigger hole that allows the health industry to create more and new patients, with new and different conditions. In other words, as always, average humans are just a tool. Sheeps.
 

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Prescription medicines. They are poison. They kill you with unnecessary chemicals that deposit in your body and only degrade your genes generation after generation. All that sh*t about depression, stress, anxiety, panic attacks, was invented in the last couple decades. They are an excuse from weak people to not work, and is a tool for doctors to make money. In the old days if you had to work the land, there was no time for "depression". You didn't work, there was no food. Period. The only solution was, Being a real man. All those weird psychological states, are a consequence of the lack of life management in some individuals. A person who does not have the mental capacity know to balance his own life, emotionally, reasonably, through realistic dreams, ambition and motivation, creates an imbalance that gives the opportunity to doctors to make more money using chemicals as a transitory fix, but creating a bigger hole that allows the health industry to create more and new patients, with new and different conditions. In other words, as always, average humans are just a tool. Sheeps.

This from a guy who shoots up drugs he buys off the internet in hope it will make his cock bigger????
Sorry Jackxxx, you totally baffle me.
 

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Though I do agree about seeing an endocrinologist.
 

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Prescription medicines. They are poison. They kill you with unnecessary chemicals that deposit in your body and only degrade your genes generation after generation. All that sh*t about depression, stress, anxiety, panic attacks, was invented in the last couple decades. They are an excuse from weak people to not work, and is a tool for doctors to make money. In the old days if you had to work the land, there was no time for "depression". You didn't work, there was no food. Period. The only solution was, Being a real man. All those weird psychological states, are a consequence of the lack of life management in some individuals. A person who does not have the mental capacity know to balance his own life, emotionally, reasonably, through realistic dreams, ambition and motivation, creates an imbalance that gives the opportunity to doctors to make more money using chemicals as a transitory fix, but creating a bigger hole that allows the health industry to create more and new patients, with new and different conditions. In other words, as always, average humans are just a tool. Sheeps.


Who are you asshole. Do you have any idea what it is like? Clearly not. To fucking flunk a test when I was in High School with no medication, the smallest things would amplify into reasons I could not make it in life. That I was stupid. That I was worthless to all including myself because I just couldn't induce happiness. Wake up fatigued and hit the sack, only to wake up never feeling refreshed, never feeling good. Only wanting to isolate myself. Several times wanting to die. Trying to commit suicide. That is barely the surface. You haven't a clue of the power of the mind. Of the pain I've suffered. The pessimism that I have no fucking control over you ignorant prick.

The anxiety. Believing everyone is staring at you, analyzing every negative quality about you, and doing the same with any hint of positive qualities you have, only to somehow find negativity in them. To have your heart race at the demand of a new task. Telling yourself to just stop thinking but you cannot. A blur of words you try toi escape on a car ride, but it only serves as a minimal distraction, and the thoughts keep flowing. You can't concentrate. Get angry at the smallest things. Everyone is hostile.

Your friends, your relatives, your therapist whom you have unconditional bonds with, tell you of your importance, your value to them. And this relieves you for a while. You believe in this. But worry about standing up to this standard. To the standard of being yourself that your loved ones apparently love about you. You even worry about that. About losing your touch and becoming someone else, against your own will.

Destroying holdiays, giving birth to your family's worries as they know you're still unhappy. Crying to sleep because you can't be normal and living with it for so long you can't understand why you or anyone else deserves this innate punishment. Even with the help of medicine, you still feel these symptoms to an abnormal effect.

Those who don't understand mock you and tell you to grow up, that it's an excuse. Shut your fucking mouth, and get off this board man. I have nothing against you personally. But don't you dare have the nerve to tell me that I don't know where I'm coming from. That my pain is an "excuse" out of things. I continue with life. With my studies. With work. But no happiness along the way. No moments when I am content.
 
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Mr.Friend, I admire you. That was a tough post but I think you did a good thing in saying what you did. There are a fair number of guys here who are on medication for various problems, and I think it takes a lot of guts. Stick to your meds -- get them adjusted if you think they aren't working as they should -- and don't take crap from anyone about it.

Lots of meds can result in lower libido, and not necessarily have anything to do with testosterone levels. Libido is a very complex thing. As for blood flow, that too might be affected, I think it would depend on the drugs in question. Have you tried the 5 G's and Erection Tea? A lot of guys have good results with these, and I don't think that there are necessarily any bad interaction effects with other drugs (though you should look into that before taking anything).

You might want to think about starting a thread including the name of whatever meds you are taking, to see if there are other members here with similar issues. Or do a search on the drug names. Go to "Search" then pick "Advanced Search" then fill in the blanks (I never use the up front search features, I get much better results with the advanced search tools).
 
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Can't understand these guys who take all sorts of blackmarket drugs, but to at the same time say prescripition drugs are poision???????
 

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Can't understand these guys who take all sorts of blackmarket drugs, but to at the same time say prescripition drugs are poision???????

If you don't have knowledge, of course you won't understand.

Batwoman, There is a BIG, or better HUGE difference between living on chemicals because a doctor tell you to take them every day of your life, to know and understand what is a chemical and what can be useful for. It is all based on knowledge. An ignorant, will follow everything a doctor says, without thinking about the consequences. And most humans are like that. In most case, the supposed "cure" by these beings called doctors, is worst than the illness. Do people care about it? no, because for the ignorant crowd of sheep, a doctor is some sort of "god" who you can absolutely trust with your body. And that is absolutely ridiculous.

To better explain the point, a car, is smarter than average people, like those who invent depression to skip work. A car when it has a problem, the technician plug in a computer, and the car gives a self diagnose with a possible cause and location. Most humans, are unable to do that with their own bodies. And supposedly they are "intelligent". Instead, they go to a doctor saying "save me"

It is very different when you understand the game, the sauce, and use it for a benefit, not to fix a dysfunction.
 

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Who are you asshole. Do you have any idea what it is like? Clearly not. To fucking flunk a test when I was in High School with no medication, the smallest things would amplify into reasons I could not make it in life. That I was stupid. That I was worthless to all including myself because I just couldn't induce happiness. Wake up fatigued and hit the sack, only to wake up never feeling refreshed, never feeling good. Only wanting to isolate myself. Several times wanting to die. Trying to commit suicide. That is barely the surface. You haven't a clue of the power of the mind. Of the pain I've suffered. The pessimism that I have no fucking control over you ignorant prick.

The anxiety. Believing everyone is staring at you, analyzing every negative quality about you, and doing the same with any hint of positive qualities you have, only to somehow find negativity in them. To have your heart race at the demand of a new task. Telling yourself to just stop thinking but you cannot. A blur of words you try toi escape on a car ride, but it only serves as a minimal distraction, and the thoughts keep flowing. You can't concentrate. Get angry at the smallest things. Everyone is hostile.

Your friends, your relatives, your therapist whom you have unconditional bonds with, tell you of your importance, your value to them. And this relieves you for a while. You believe in this. But worry about standing up to this standard. To the standard of being yourself that your loved ones apparently love about you. You even worry about that. About losing your touch and becoming someone else, against your own will.

Destroying holdiays, giving birth to your family's worries as they know you're still unhappy. Crying to sleep because you can't be normal and living with it for so long you can't understand why you or anyone else deserves this innate punishment. Even with the help of medicine, you still feel these symptoms to an abnormal effect.

Those who don't understand mock you and tell you to grow up, that it's an excuse. Shut your fucking mouth, and get off this board man. I have nothing against you personally. But don't you dare have the nerve to tell me that I don't know where I'm coming from. That my pain is an "excuse" out of things. I continue with life. With my studies. With work. But no happiness along the way. No moments when I am content.



mmh. Interesting post. What you describe there, in short words, is a mentally ill human, who shouldn't even be free on the streets. You talk about "the power of the mind", and on top of that power, the self control does not exist? If it doesn't, then a person like that could even be dangerous for the rest.

I repeat, all those diseases were invented in the last couple decades. Too many dysfunctional people these days. And the clear example cannot be denied. In the old days, if you were a farmer, there were no excuses to cry like a little bitch and not work. No work, no crops, no food. Period. All the rest invented lately are cheap excuses to justify mediocrity, laziness.

The first four words of your post at least give a clear image of your scary psychological profile. Not only for taking a violent uncontrolled dangerous action, but also because there is not even a question mark there. If you really have interest in who I am, I will leave it as a curiosity for you, so you can start a little practice to control "anxiety" that is commonly used as excuse to skip college or justify lack of study. You will think every minute, every day, about who I am. And think again, and think again, and think again, and think again, and think again.............until YOU step up and control it. No drug or doctor will do it for you.

That "pain" you say you have, is a personal invention. Where that pain comes from? who is causing you pain? Have you talk to somebody about your problems and seek advise on how to resolve them? confronting problems and looking for the best solution, IT IS a personal individual task, however, advise from others might be useful. If there is no real cause for that so called "pain" then, what it is? what if you forget about it?
 

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When one has low libido, not only does it decrease your sex drive, but doesn't it hinder blood flow to your penis throughpout the entire day? Like crappy, thin and shorter flaccids, without the spongy feeling? Becuase lower libido is mainly caused by lower testosterone, due to whatever reason, so does that lower testosterone, that is causing the low libido, send a message to your brain that you don't even need much blood in the penis anyway, since your sex drive is low? Hence why low libido causes smaller flaccids. (Im asking this on the topic of low libido's effects on flaccid state btw) Because Im about to begin Wellbutrin, as I want my flaccids hanging again, and am sick of no sex drive.. Can anyone answer me this?

Lack of dopamine, your main excitatory neurotransmitter secreted in the hypothalamus acting on the D1-D5 receptors in the cerebral cortex. Dopamine is responsible for a wide variety of functions including, sleep, motivation, cardiovascular effects (positive inotropic & chronotropic effects through conversion to norepinephrine and then epinephrine), mood, and most pertinent - libido. Dopamine is a competitive antagonist of the hormone Prolactin, which is known to reduce libido and is secreted by the anterior pituitary gland shortly after ejaculation, hence the refractory period. Most deficiencies are dietary and due to stress, such as lack of sleep. Consuming protein and L-Tyrosine combined with reducing stress will help get libido back to normal. Low testosterone is one of the rarest causes of ED. Unfortunately Dopamine is oxidized easily, therefore, consuming anti-oxidants and minimizing stress are imperative to proper Dopamine function. Remember, an overabundance of Dopamine will cause mood swings and low libido, so proper balance is key. Also, a lot of this neurotransmitter will do nothing if the body limits the production of D1-D5 receptors through down-regulation, thus, a slow and steady approach to raise the neurotransmitter is best. I hope this helps and good luck.
-- Your feel good chemical Dopamine.
 
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Jackxx, back off. Not everyone is as blessed with perfection and cosmic insight as you seem to think you are.
I suggest you get off MrFriend''s thread and let members who might be able to help him chip in.
 

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Oh damn, what a heated thread. Sorry for the repost on the Dopamine part, I had not read the one before mine and assure you I got it from my own research.

-- Your feel good chemical, Dopamine. (I'm sure we all could use some of that right now...)
 

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Everyone, please, take it down a notch. No more name calling. No more personal attacks
This is a sensitive subject and clearly there are strong feelings. Fine. But we need to act like adults.
There will be no further warnings.
 

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mmh. Interesting post. What you describe there, in short words, is a mentally ill human, who shouldn't even be free on the streets. You talk about "the power of the mind", and on top of that power, the self control does not exist? If it doesn't, then a person like that could even be dangerous for the rest.

I repeat, all those diseases were invented in the last couple decades. Too many dysfunctional people these days. And the clear example cannot be denied. In the old days, if you were a farmer, there were no excuses to cry like a little bitch and not work. No work, no crops, no food. Period. All the rest invented lately are cheap excuses to justify mediocrity, laziness.

The first four words of your post at least give a clear image of your scary psychological profile. Not only for taking a violent uncontrolled dangerous action, but also because there is not even a question mark there. If you really have interest in who I am, I will leave it as a curiosity for you, so you can start a little practice to control "anxiety" that is commonly used as excuse to skip college or justify lack of study. You will think every minute, every day, about who I am. And think again, and think again, and think again, and think again, and think again.............until YOU step up and control it. No drug or doctor will do it for you.

That "pain" you say you have, is a personal invention. Where that pain comes from? who is causing you pain? Have you talk to somebody about your problems and seek advise on how to resolve them? confronting problems and looking for the best solution, IT IS a personal individual task, however, advise from others might be useful. If there is no real cause for that so called "pain" then, what it is? what if you forget about it?


Your argument reminds me of a religious debate. The Christians vs the Athiests. On one end of the spectrum, you have the Christains, who stick by their beliefs no matter what, even if a major point must be considered, that the atheists' side presents. Then there is the Atheist side, that sticks by its beliefs no matter what, even if a major point must be considered, that the Christain side presents. So, how is each side completely right? Why can they not consider other factors they wholly oppose? Each side must be perfect and all knowing.Anything one side says must be true. But wait, there is confliction, yet each opposing side, is CLEARLY correct, right? They shouldn't be questioned. For they are so sure of everything in the grand scheme of things. Wait.. No, they are both equally ignorant. Just as you are. I understand a placebo effect induced by a doctor's word, but I do have a burden of an illness. And it's no placebo effect. It's no illusion. It is very real.

I'm done dealing with you.
 

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Who are you asshole. Do you have any idea what it is like? Clearly not. To fucking flunk a test when I was in High School with no medication, the smallest things would amplify into reasons I could not make it in life. That I was stupid. That I was worthless to all including myself because I just couldn't induce happiness. Wake up fatigued and hit the sack, only to wake up never feeling refreshed, never feeling good. Only wanting to isolate myself. Several times wanting to die. Trying to commit suicide. That is barely the surface. You haven't a clue of the power of the mind. Of the pain I've suffered. The pessimism that I have no fucking control over you ignorant prick.

The anxiety. Believing everyone is staring at you, analyzing every negative quality about you, and doing the same with any hint of positive qualities you have, only to somehow find negativity in them. To have your heart race at the demand of a new task. Telling yourself to just stop thinking but you cannot. A blur of words you try toi escape on a car ride, but it only serves as a minimal distraction, and the thoughts keep flowing. You can't concentrate. Get angry at the smallest things. Everyone is hostile.

Your friends, your relatives, your therapist whom you have unconditional bonds with, tell you of your importance, your value to them. And this relieves you for a while. You believe in this. But worry about standing up to this standard. To the standard of being yourself that your loved ones apparently love about you. You even worry about that. About losing your touch and becoming someone else, against your own will.

Destroying holdiays, giving birth to your family's worries as they know you're still unhappy. Crying to sleep because you can't be normal and living with it for so long you can't understand why you or anyone else deserves this innate punishment. Even with the help of medicine, you still feel these symptoms to an abnormal effect.

Those who don't understand mock you and tell you to grow up, that it's an excuse. Shut your fucking mouth, and get off this board man. I have nothing against you personally. But don't you dare have the nerve to tell me that I don't know where I'm coming from. That my pain is an "excuse" out of things. I continue with life. With my studies. With work. But no happiness along the way. No moments when I am content.

Dude, I was exactly like that in high school. Social Anxiety and depression. When it hits, it hits hard. I know exactly what you mean with the "Believing everyone is staring at you, analyzing every negative quality about you" and the thoughts about suicide. Holy sh*t, that is word for word how my life was.

sh*t does get better though. This "cloud" of anxiety will clear up from your head. You wanna know what my cure was? I got a hobby, I started loving music and picked up the guitar. When you have a passion for something, life suddenly has a meaning. With time, the anxiety/depression relieves itself...until eventually, in my case, I got a girlfriend for the first time and that changed my life. When you love somebody else, and she loves you back..there is nothing more satisfying than that.

Reading about other people's stories will definitely help you. I used to post on a forum for depressed people...some of the stories there are FUCKED UP, things that you cant imagine. You'll realize that your life isn't so bad after all. Food will suddenly taste good again...you'll be able to see colors again, not just black and white.

I'll go all out and admit that I did use medication to help me: marijuana. I used to smoke pot and then write things in a diary. That sh*t REALLY helps. However, I dont advocate marijuana usage (I hate that sh*t now...mainly because HEALTHY people abuse it just to get high, which is just plain lame) but that sh*t can definitely help you. I remember my art therapist used to be against pot so much. She'd tell me how marijuana is BAD and that it leads to harder drugs...whatever.

I promise, things do get better. You need to work on it. If you need anything, shoot me a PM :)

Jackxxx....no...just, no. That's quite enough from you. You think you're smarter than everybody else here, but youre not. You DONT know better than anybody but yourself. Dont tell other people that what they feel is fake.