Unstretchable ligs?

[Gator]

Is there a way to tell if your ligs are even stretchable? Meaning, do you think some people can benefit virtually nothing from stretching?

I know it's probably difficult to say with any type of certainty, but maybe there are clues. Maybe in the stretching? Maybe the way your penis hangs?

I hate stretching because I take a week-long trip to negative P.I. town every time I do a stretching session for more than 5 minutes. I don't pull hard at all and my grip at the glans is feather light (barely strong enough to hold on and do the stretch). Sometimes I get pain from stretching, especially going anywhere near a down direction. Stretching up doesn't feel too good either.

Maybe my ligs can't be stretched? My BPFSL is basically the same size of my BPEL (maybe 1/4" longer on some days) and that would suggest that I need to focus on my tunica anyway since my EQ has been static at 9-10 my entire life.

I just find the relationship between stretching and jelqing to be so similar, which is why it confuses me. Jelqing is, in effect, a stretching motion but I get no negative P.I.s from jelqing. I've done 800-1000 jelq sessions only to have my dick turn around, look at me, and say "is that all you got?" I give him 5, 30 second stretches and he screams bloody murder.

Thoughts guys?

 

[wombraider]

I know it's probably difficult to say with any type of certainty, but maybe there are clues. Maybe in the stretching? Maybe the way your penis hangs?

Just how does your penis hang? I'm a firm believer that this (or just LOT theory) IS the biggest clue.

 

[pe_ZEN]

Have you been stretching prior to jelqing? I tried to stretch after jelquing once, and it felt horrible. First, 20min warmup then light stretching. Also you may want to try 'other' directions such as left, right, diagonal, etc...

 

[Gator]

I only stretch before jelqing. While my dick feels more pliable after jelqing, everything is too engorged to where I feel I'm getting a good stretch. My problem could be very simple: I need a longer more efficient warmup. I've been reading about the TGC theory. My BPFSL is clearly the key in all of this, assuming that TGC is a viable theory (its foundation seems very solid). Simply put, I need to stretch. My smooth muscle is compressing a maxed-out tunica. There is just no room for growth. I have to expand that fucker. Tonight, I'm bound and determined to get this stretching thing down to where it's comfortable and effective!

 

[pe_ZEN]

there you go, Gator, just use a friggin hot warmup first for at least 15-20min

 

[Radiohead]

You must differentiate the two types of stretching:
1) Stretching the shaft of the penis
2) Stretching the ligs (this is when you place the grip at the base of your penis and pull --> hanging)

It's important to realize that stretching the shaft is really difficult on the penis. It exhausts the tissues. The collagen responds defensively, causing the penis to return to its normal state. Stretching the shaft isnt for everybody. Many guys get negative PIs.

Hanging does not stretch the penis itself. It stretches the ligs. (This is arguable...it depends what kind of hanging device you use and how you configure it. If you want, you make your hanger stretch your shaft also...). For this case, I'm just going to talk about lig stretching.

You should try the Bib hanger. Set it up so that the grip is mainly at the base of your dingdong. Add the weights. This will stretch only your ligs.

And yes, your ligs are stretchable. Dont worry. Its just that your penis doesnt respond well to stretching, which is the case for a huge percentage of penile exercisers. I also get negative PIs from stretching sometimes.

 

[Radiohead]

As for your tunica problem, that is another story.

You need to get your dick really warm. Get a few erections throughout your warm up, and then get flaccid again (this is called penis breathing). New blood (with good nutriments) enters the warm penis, then exits.

Then, place an OK grip at the base of your penis. Place another ok grip at your glans and pull the grips away from each other. This is called a Tunica Tug. Do this is lightly as possible (just like how you described. The grip is barely strong enough to hold the cock).

Do the tunica tug in a JAI stretch-like fashion. Meaning, you pull lightly, then you let go. Repeat a few times. Make sure the cock stays warm throughout the work out.

Good luck.

You also wanna look at flaccid bending. It will stretch the tunica, without actually stretching the penis. Also look at the O bend. https://www.pegym.com/forums/advanced-devices-forum/4489-trouble-gaining-girth-check-out-girth-guide.html

 

[Bo0st]

As for your tunica problem, that is another story.

You need to get your dick really warm. Get a few erections throughout your warm up, and then get flaccid again (this is called penis breathing). New blood (with good nutriments) enters the warm penis, then exits.

Then, place an OK grip at the base of your penis. Place another ok grip at your glans and pull the grips away from each other. This is called a Tunica Tug. Do this is lightly as possible (just like how you described. The grip is barely strong enough to hold the cock).

Do the tunica tug in a JAI stretch-like fashion. Meaning, you pull lightly, then you let go. Repeat a few times. Make sure the cock stays warm throughout the work out.

Good luck.

You also wanna look at flaccid bending. It will stretch the tunica, without actually stretching the penis. Also look at the O bend. https://www.pegym.com/forums/advanced-devices-forum/4489-trouble-gaining-girth-check-out-girth-guide.html

Wow. Great amount of information.

Thanks!

 

[Radiohead]

Glad it helped. I'm waiting on Gator's results.

 

[Gator]

Thanks for the information Radiohead. I'm not going to dive into hanging quite yet. I want to see if I can do this manually first. I have completely re-worked my routines based around the TGC Theory and with help from JohnSmith. It's in my progress log (link in my signature). I appreciate the information man!

 

[calixto]

I wonder exactly what KIND of pain are you (gator) experiencing? I am curious, and I will explain once you respond.

 

[Gator]

I wonder exactly what KIND of pain are you (gator) experiencing? I am curious, and I will explain once you respond.

It's like an achy feeling. It usually goes away about a day after stretching but is pretty irritating directly following the session. But I'm fairly sure I uncovered the problem. I think before, I was stretching and pulling on the skin too harshly. Yesterday I used some baby powder to sort of stabilize the grip a bit. I didn't pull on the skin as much and I had no pain during or following.