Alrightie, One futuro sport wrist wrap aquired. I had to cut it in half to make it more manageable, but now it's perfect and easy to adjust. I'm thinking of adding some extra wrapping to achieve extra comfort, but it's doing the trick handsomely, and simply refuses my dick to turtle.
Scipio, de bello mentula.
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The wrist wrap has been used actively the last days, and it will be interesting to see if it makes any effect in the long run. It goes beyond doubt that it greatly engorges my flaccid penis when used, and hopefully it will give me some more flaccid gains (certainly many men has reported good flaccid gains after applying a wrist wrap). The main objective is to use it as an ADS for girth though, and I really hope this will be effective, since girth seems to be my achillesheel. 0.5 cm (1/5") simply is not satisfying in ten months, and I've started to contemplate clamping in a few months time.
I've been reading intensely up on the theories behind IPR, strategic deconditioning and punctuated PE lately, and will perhaps try to put my thoughts down on virtual paper when the time is right, but first I'll have to do more research. It would be greatly appreciated if those who has insight in the subject could share any reading material I might have passed by, in particullar from the forums of betterman and MOS, wich I still has not been able to read my way through, and by nature is bound to contain some golden nuggets.
I've been reading intensely up on the theories behind IPR, strategic deconditioning and punctuated PE lately, and will perhaps try to put my thoughts down on virtual paper when the time is right, but first I'll have to do more research. It would be greatly appreciated if those who has insight in the subject could share any reading material I might have passed by, in particullar from the forums of betterman and MOS, wich I still has not been able to read my way through, and by nature is bound to contain some golden nuggets.
I've been on a small break since wednesday, due to a serious build-up of lympathic fluid in the foreskin. I think it's an indication that I've been to hard with the Uli's. Anyway, it's healed up nicely, but weekends off. Back to the routine on monday.
I find that I get the best expansion with high erection level work, but I've never gotten into very intense girth work in the past. I'm trying to make jelqing my staple and finding ways of gaining girth through it. The jelqing technique I'm talking about is braindrain's "perfect jelqing" over at Thunders (http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=111824) - it's not anything particularly special, but just really concentrating on every stroke and trying to make it "perfect". I find that I can become lax too quickly during jelqing at times (it's a fun activity to do), but I'm really coming to find out that I need to work hard to gain - I can't just make my jelqing sessions some easy thing. Not that I'm making my jelqing sessions something particularly grueling to do either, they're still fun for me, it's just a matter of concentrating more. I've actually found that my session goes by a bit faster this way too, since I'm not very absentmindedly jelqing.
Recently I used a pretty tight grip (not painfully tight) and found that it engorged me much better - I'm guessing to about 5.5" circumference during the stroke. I think for jelqing to be really effective you need some expansion beyond your normal erect size, I mean otherwise masturbation would lead to gains and I don't think that's the case. I would really like to get to a point where I can get an expansion beyond just 1/4", or perhaps one that effects my erect size post-jelq - I think that would be a positive sign that the jelqing is doing its thing, but I'm not sure what I have to do to get that. I'm still working on my jelqing technique, I don't think I'll ever say I've become adept at jelqing until I get that sort of expansion post-jelq.
There are some variations on jelqing I would like to try that are aimed specifically at girth (right now I'm focusing more on length considering I've gained in that so well) - the V jelq, Jelq Squeeze & modified jelq squeeze. Currently I'm jelqing the sides primarily with my overhand OK grip. I have this idea that I'll gain girth from jelqing the top & bottom of my penis more than the sides - I've noticed that some men gain well in girth from one way or the other (I don't know what makes this the case). I've considered using the Jelq device for this, but feel I get a better expansion from my hands (also I can control the force better with my hands). I think that, if "perfect jelqing" doesn't do the trick for me in terms of girth I'll try a modified jelq squeeze - that is, the jelq squeeze (tourniquet grip at base with one hand, jelq up the shaft with other) with three fingers used horizontally - thumb on top of the penis and index&middle finger on the bottom, then jelq slowly up to the head. I'll have to test out different erection levels to see what's optimal for me. There's also an underhand OK grip (I currently do overhand OK) done with an intense grip and vertically towards my chin, I've heard this is better for girth gains but never really bothered with it myself - I think it's the idea of taking the ligs out of the equation or something.
Another option, beyond jelqing, are squeezes and horse 440's. I think I've actually gained .125" EG from periodic squeezes (Ulis) that I've never been able to cement. I've never done more than a few squeezes, so I've always been curious as to what a slow progressive routine of squeezes might do for me. After seeing Yguy's (http://www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10748) progress log, where he was doing up to 30 minutes of squeezes, made me kind of curious about a higher volume of squeezes (slowly worked up to, of course). Of course I've seen great things about Horse 440s as well, but also heard they're a very intense exercise so I think I'd use them only as a last resort before going on to clamping. I certainly hope I won't have to though.
I think that's about it for my random ideas for girth work, future plans, etc. Hope it wasn't too boring for you! ha ha.
Why, I must say that Braindrains log is one of the most inspiring threads I've read in a long time. Can't believe I missed that golden nugget! I'm of to the bathroom to do some perfect jelqs, restdays be damned!
After Keidos brilliant post I have now done two rounds in the bathroom with a honest effort to achieve the perfect jelq session, and I think it's really brought me back on the girth track.
I think I had switched my focus to far towards theory, and to far away from jelqing technique, and thus I lost the memory of that splendid engorged cock I saw the last time I gained some girth. It's back now, fat as an XXL bratwurst after these two sessions, and I'm quite excited (just have to play it safe with those high erection jelqs).
I think I had switched my focus to far towards theory, and to far away from jelqing technique, and thus I lost the memory of that splendid engorged cock I saw the last time I gained some girth. It's back now, fat as an XXL bratwurst after these two sessions, and I'm quite excited (just have to play it safe with those high erection jelqs).
Hey Scipio, how hard would you say you jelq? I mean the grip force. I've been using a more intense grip force the past few sessions and I think it may have contributed to a lessened EQ for me (although no pain or red spots). I'm gonna test out a lighter grip, but really focusing on pushing as much blood through as I can rather than just squeezing as hard a I can. I'm wondering what kind of maximum expansion I can get without squeezing very hard.
I vary a lot based on the estimated EQ of the jelq. If I'm at 90% I go moderate to mild, the next jelq it usually subsides to 85-08% though I kegel in fresh blood, and then I go harder, moderate to intence. So I judge each jelq individualy and monitor my dick close while doing this. I've tryed for a while with only light grip and it does not give the same expansion, but I must point out that I only do dry-jelqs, so it probably makes a difference in grip if you do wet-jelqs.
I think we're pretty similar in our grips then, I'm more of a moderate-medium/medium-high grip normally, but the grip I've been using lately has been VERY intense. I'll see what sort of expansion I get with a moderate perfect jelq, then. I never have gotten much expansion from the very light grip either - I think it's more a grip for improved EQ rather than maximal growth in my case.
Registered a gain of 0.3 cm today, taking me to 17.5 cm BPEL. Don't know if this is due to the recent addition of Ginko Biloba in my supplement list, and hence is a result of increased blood-flow instead of a legit gain.
Also I'm contemplating a week of due to the phenomena of the "heated" cock. The problem is that all other PI's are extremely good and i don't want to mess upp any potential gains, I'll have to think some more about this.
Also I'm contemplating a week of due to the phenomena of the "heated" cock. The problem is that all other PI's are extremely good and i don't want to mess upp any potential gains, I'll have to think some more about this.
Why must it be so god damn hard for me to gain some girth? It's been two months now with an extremely concentrated girth routine and the most I've seen is a fluctuating gain of 0,2 cm girth, and that only happened one time. I curse you penis!
According to IPR-schedule I will shortly be going on a decon, but this is off the table at the moment. I have if nothing else gotten myself to a fine degree of conditioned cock, and will subsequently progress with furthermore jelqs, squeezes and Ulis. Frequent studies of girth-oriented progress logs suggests that I have yet to reach the required time spent, pressure and conditioning for making those sweet girth gains. We are not giving inn here fellows!
Inspired by a progress log I've read, I will try erect heating with base-wrap and IRL, to heat the tunica inn its most expanded state before commencing with my jelq-regime. One guy reported real good engorgement with this method, whether it will be good for something remains to see.
Have a good workout!
According to IPR-schedule I will shortly be going on a decon, but this is off the table at the moment. I have if nothing else gotten myself to a fine degree of conditioned cock, and will subsequently progress with furthermore jelqs, squeezes and Ulis. Frequent studies of girth-oriented progress logs suggests that I have yet to reach the required time spent, pressure and conditioning for making those sweet girth gains. We are not giving inn here fellows!
Inspired by a progress log I've read, I will try erect heating with base-wrap and IRL, to heat the tunica inn its most expanded state before commencing with my jelq-regime. One guy reported real good engorgement with this method, whether it will be good for something remains to see.
Have a good workout!
I've taken a decon this summer, and now school is about to start again. After seven long years at the university I'm finally at the last year, phew......
Tonight I will measure and see if I've gained some in my last bout. If not, it's time to realise that my blessed newbiegains are indeed over, and all further gains will have to be fought for.
Regardless I will design a new girth routine. I started to see some small girth gains during the end of my last regime, but stopped before they cemented. This time I will follow it all the way through.
Good gaining all!
Tonight I will measure and see if I've gained some in my last bout. If not, it's time to realise that my blessed newbiegains are indeed over, and all further gains will have to be fought for.
Regardless I will design a new girth routine. I started to see some small girth gains during the end of my last regime, but stopped before they cemented. This time I will follow it all the way through.
Good gaining all!
