Jayhawk11, how often do these spurts occure, is there any pattern?
Both of you, if it's possible I would like to narrow it down. When you say stretching, is there any particular exercise in stretching you feel has made it for you? How long do you hold a stretch etc. To sum it up, what do you believe to be the essensials?
My first four months was a very simple progressive routine. I started out with 100 wet jelqs, did 5-way stretches (SO, Up, Right, Left, Down) and added about 50 jelqing reps, if I remember correctly, every 2-3 weeks. I gained steadily for the four months until I stopped adding volume and then took a decon break because I thought I was overworking (I had no negative PI's though - at this point I didn't know about PI's or keep track of them). This was a 5 on / 2 off routine. During this point I never added to my stretches, however I believe I was doing more like 1 minute holds on the stretches because I find that I count slower than the rate of an actual timer.
My most recent bout of gains was with a jelq & stretch routine of 3 minute stretches (SO, SU, V/A, Bundled) and jelqing... I think it was about 40+ minutes, but I injured myself quickly with this because (I believe) I upped the volume too quickly - jumping from 28 min to 40 min, etc. I'd say that I do pretty light/moderate stretching, not very high tension and this produces the best gains for me. I follow wadzilla's thought that higher tension strengthens the tissue whereas a lighter force encourages growth (although plenty of guys have gained with high tension stretches, so there you go). I did this also on an everyday routine - I'd never gotten very good results with an every other day routine. I think my penis responds best to daily stimulation, a routine that encourages but doesn't
force growth. I keep my routine very basic and have found this gives me the best results; I also stay much more consistent with a daily routine because it's more routine for me to just do it every day.
I've got to mention that I've injured myself (not seriously) pretty easily doing this because I'm quite impatient when it comes to gains and always add to the volume too quickly. I think if I just stuck with this routine and slowly added slight volume every week (1-2 minutes) I'd have reached my goals by now... at least in terms of length.
I haven't gained in girth yet (at least not a cemented gain - got 0.125" randomly). I'm trying to perfect my jelqing technique for girth gains and feel I'm on the verge of a breakthrough in those terms. I think I require a more intense grip (75%-85% erect) to see girth gains, I seem to only get a good expansion with a harder jelq. I worry about injury from this though, so haven't ever been incredibly consistent with this kind of jelqing. I think that the more intense girth work like clamping probably requires days off.
I'd like to mention that I originally got the inspiration to do this routine from wadzilla's "Speaking to a Big Gainer soon..." thread on Thundersplace. After reading it I remembered how similar I was to this routine in the beginning of my PE journey and how good my gains were so I tried it out again and after having a good result from it have made it my definitely-must-master routine.
Boy, I've really rambled on! haha.
Recap:
Long stretches - 2-3 minute holds, not a high tension stretch. Straight Out, Up, Right, Left, Down, V-stretch, A-stretch, Bundled stretch.
For jelqing to be effective you need to see the action of the blood flow, I feel that I get a good jelq when I see my glans really swell with blood. With the more intense jelqing grip I see engorgement over the shaft and probably get to about 5.5" circumference, but haven't seen this sort of temporary gain post-jelq.
This is probably more information than you needed, Scipio, sorry about that.
