flaccid length has decreased

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For some reason my flaccid length has decreased a little I'm kind of turtling. Trying to think of why and how to combat this. I have a good routine, 1 day on 1 off.

I take korean ginseng and ginko biloba oral drops daily so I would have thought it would help but it hasn't.

Their is a cold snap here in the uk and it's very cold and I have the heater on.

I warm up everyday.

Should I stretch more?

Maybe my boxers are too tight? l0l

I had some flaccid gains recently so I really would like to be a grower.

Any advice? Also how hard should I pull when stretching, can I pull really hard because i never had a lig pop?

Thanks..
 

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Try doing warming up periodically thoughout the day. Also Try doing dome Fowfers while you're sitting down, or when you're in bed. The Plump Theory also works really well. You can pull hard but not too hard. As long as it doesn't feel uncomfortable or painful.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory/2431-plump-theory.html
 

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Don't worry man.

Your flaccid got smaller because it's cold. Your penis is fine :)

Wear warm underwear and research the plump theory :)
 

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l0l yea its damn cold.


I like that oil too.
 

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Lmao... Poor guy :( ... Same think happen 2 me it actually happened few times cause Canada is cold :( .. haha anyways it does shrink from the cold but get ur buddy up then chill and should be back 2 normal lol ..
 

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Talk to your dick. Tell him that spring isn't too far away. ;)
 

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Slanker.

I must say that my opinion is perhaps this is not just due to our cold spell here in the UK!

I think turtling can be an odd thing. Sometimes it seems to happen without warning...like our dicks have cycles that we dont know about. But pulling to hard can definatetly have a big effect, well it does with me.

Maybe you could experiment with taking a day or two off then coming back to PE but only stretching very lightly for only afew stretches, maybe afew light jelqs. First time I did this I noticed a huge flaccid hang for about 24 hours. Worth trying then you can start to work out how your unit repsonds to different levels of stress!
 

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scientificapproach:

yea I think it might have been a combination of the above. I did some piss pulls with a strong pull and my flaccid seemed to cooperate.

What is the difference of pulling lightly and pulling hard when you stretch? As I normally pull lightly and I have not seen any gains for sometime, so I was thinking I need to pull harder, like much harder.
 

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Well I must admit I dont really know myself slanker, I am trying hard to work all this out. At first I was going on PIs, thinking that if I was turtling it was a sign I wasnt going to increase. I am having a very hard time gaining, I think its important to try and undertand what we are trying to achieve. There are alot of different theories on why enlargment happens in PE, ranging from deforming the tunica, to causing microtears to causing mitotic division!
Perhaps its is a combination.

Take a look at my chart of the different stress duration rest variables to see what I mean:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theory/3668-making-sense-pe-factors.html

The deformation theory seems to suggest (or those who advocate it) that the stress/intensity must be fairly high, above a certain threshold for plastic deformation. The duration must be long (Bib would recomment up to 3-4 hours a day) and rest is not needed at all!
The problem I find with this is major turtling and a seeming lack of growth. Granted I didnt stick at this PE approach for long to be sure, but I just had so many negative signs that I couldnt understand how I was going to ever get bigger??

The microtear theory to me would be akin to bodybuilding, hit it with a fair ammount of stress/intensity, BUT you must rest as long as your own body/system/penis requires. Working it again before full recovery and growth would be counterproductive.
Problem here is nobody seems to rest 4-7 days? Is there a reason for this? Maybe because that method doesnt work, maybe its just people dont want to try it.

Mitosis theories are based on a constant gentle stress. Eg extenders. Low stress/intensity, high duration of use (8-12 hrs per day) and no rest!
Again I found the problem here was lack of rest and a build up of negative PIs.

You will notice alot of question marks. I am affraid I dont currently know the answers. I do beleive though I am beginning to see all the different "varaibles and choices" of PE. I think that perhaps lower stress/intensity, fairly low duration, but also not lots of rest days (but still some...and this may be critical) is perhaps the best option for me personally. I think whatever intesnity you choose to stretch at the important points are; WARM UP well not just to prevent injury but to help deform if thats whats happeneing...perhaps the only thing in PE where more is better, time wise, dont burn yourself of course. Also become aware of what you are trying to achieve, the mechanism. If you seem to be gaining with higher intensity strectches then it would seem you are either deforming or causing microtears. But watch your turtlng, if there is no growth and lots of turtling, I would advise lowring intensity!
Good luck and keep me posted! :)
 

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thanks for the informative reply.

IT could be a case of the "turtling threshold", train to the point that you don't turtle. I am going to give high intensity short duration stretches a try and see how that works for me, so far I haven't been turtling.
 

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I will go with SA on this one, turtling can be caused by cold weather but is not the only cause for it. When you do piss pulls throughout the day make sure you don't pull hard, pull just enough to get him to a nice flaccid length and hold for a few seconds. You don't need to pull very hard or long because your unit is cold, pulling too hard or long can cause turtling as well. You might want to take a few days off of the piss pulls and see if it makes a difference.
 

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I just started them after the turtling, and they seem to be working.