Fleshlight (STU) - usage question

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Hey guys

Do you think at my age (31 years of age) i may have left it too late to battle PE
Not at all. I was 33 or 34 or so when it kicked in for me and ruined the relationship I was in. I wasn't awful when we first started, but it got to the point where I'd cum as soon as I entered her. Every time. She got angry with me, told me to fix it, but I had no idea how. Possibly for the best in a way as it wasn't the right relationship for me, and funnily enough it was me who ended it, not her. But that's all by the by, point is it was after we split up that I was working on myself and found this place. The rest is history, and from a couple of years later I hadn't just beaten it I'd become a way, way better lay too.

So no, it's not too late.

I don't think it is. I find I have a better understanding of my body than when I was younger
Absolutely, and my understanding of my own body has improved immensely as a result of being here, learning, and needing to. Now I'm a geek anyway, so I don't tend to take advice on its own terms without understanding the how and why, and that research and exploration is on record here.

This sounds corny and trite, but over here on this side of the fence I am genuinely grateful for having gone through it as I've come out as ten times the man, and ten times the lover. Corny or not, finding positives from the lowest lows will be the making of you.
 
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This sounds corny and trite, but over here on this side of the fence I am genuinely grateful for having gone through it as I've come out as ten times the man, and ten times the lover

Yes.
 

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Reps to spanky for this great post. I'm trying to highlight so others can benefit from this as well. Thanks again, spanky!

Hi Lelrizons,

sounds like you're doing exactly the right thing. I'm a very big fan of Peaking exercises, which are about precisely this. With edging you should try to learn a scale for yourself of typically 1-10, where 0 or 1 is just normal, nothing, reading the paper or something and 10 is orgasm. So let's say 9 is the edge of your PoNR, then stop before you get there, and every day, try to get a bit closer before backing off.

doing Peaking properly, you don't necessarily go right to the edge and test yourself too much, you bring yourself to, say, a 7, then back off down to a 4 or a 5, wherever you can keep erection let's say. And keep doing that, up and down, and pay attention to how far you're going.

Doing this you'll get super familiar with your levels. So for me, I start to lose wood around a 5, and I tend to lock into an 8 during sex. in that place, I'm hard as hell, comfortable, and loving the zone. I mentally disconnect from how my penis feels, my penis becomes a tool for her pleasure, not mine. I try, while this is easier during "foreplay" or a blowjob, and gets harder to concentrate on when you're right up there in the zone, visualising moving the energy outwards, down my legs and up my back..

.. incidentally, moving the energy up your back to your head is apparently how you reach full body orgasm, and while I haven't quite achieved that, it's a great place to be, and I've found that even if I don't cum, which happens sometimes now, I'm more than satisfied with 20 minutes plus in that place.

20 minutes is kind of key for me too, 20 minutes of stimulation - not necessarily 20 minutes of penetration, then after staying at an 8 for a while, relaxed and locked, not worried about it getting out of my control or hitting PoNR, the PoNR starts to move higher and higher away, so then you can get up to a 9 or a 9.5 without flying off, and still get back down again.

And your comfort and confidence is really important too. If all you can think about is controlling yourself, that's going to bring on anxiety, and that won't help at all.

Effectively it's about learning to control your PoNR like it's something outside of you. But it's not. It's all you. It moves. And that is largely psychological, the physical exercises, K/RK etc are about you gaining control, being able to move up and down the scale, and during Peaking, you start to become not just more aware of subtle changes and responses in yourself, you learn and build muscle control from a safer place. I think also, that while K/RK is good for stamina without arousal or edging, that alone doesn't teach you much until you're doing it to control your arousal up at a 7 or 8.

It does improve. And while I'm not going to suggest that it's all psychological like they used to believe, some of it still is. You can control a lot of it mentally and overpower your body. A lot of it is physical, muscle fitness etc. But also serotonin is well known now to have an impact, and if you want proof that you can mentally do something about that, google people being hypnotised to think they're high or on ecstasy. Mind over matter is powerful stuff.

Good luck.
 

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Not at all. I was 33 or 34 or so when it kicked in for me and ruined the relationship I was in. I wasn't awful when we first started, but it got to the point where I'd cum as soon as I entered her. Every time. She got angry with me, told me to fix it, but I had no idea how. Possibly for the best in a way as it wasn't the right relationship for me, and funnily enough it was me who ended it, not her. But that's all by the by, point is it was after we split up that I was working on myself and found this place. The rest is history, and from a couple of years later I hadn't just beaten it I'd become a way, way better lay too.

So no, it's not too late.


Absolutely, and my understanding of my own body has improved immensely as a result of being here, learning, and needing to. Now I'm a geek anyway, so I don't tend to take advice on its own terms without understanding the how and why, and that research and exploration is on record here.

This sounds corny and trite, but over here on this side of the fence I am genuinely grateful for having gone through it as I've come out as ten times the man, and ten times the lover. Corny or not, finding positives from the lowest lows will be the making of you.

Inspirational

I know I can beat this but I also have to understand that it's going to take time with all the ups and downs. It can be quite discouraging sometimes to feel you are not advancing

A few things I have changed in my life that has been part of my life for a longggg time or never been implemented

- no porn. I don't even want to watch it, all I think porn is to me is "cum the quickest you can" and it was training me for years as a master bating tool. I never ever masterbated without it

- reverse kegals. I always was under the impression that doing normal kegals was the answer but oh my how wrong was I. I get HUGE IK and my balance is so tense it's not funny. Stopped kegals when finishing peeing

- more deep squats

- learning about arousal methods and breathing techniques

Can I ask a question?
Do you now experience plateau orgasm? The stuff inbetween that us PE suffers miss out on?

What was the one thing that made a bigger difference than all of it? I suppose that depends on the person
 

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Can I ask a question?
Do you now experience plateau orgasm? The stuff inbetween that us PE suffers miss out on?
Um, I guess, maybe. Since beating it enough to find a new girlfriend and be able to last long enough, not full control by any means, but I reckon as long as most guys manage, I carried on working on myself and learning. I really wanted to learn MMO and really explore orgasm. I had a suspicion that male and female orgasms were the same, just our machinery's different and worked on that. Dunno if that's true, but my god I've had bigger and better orgasms than I've ever known since and I could talk and talk about it and bore the pants off you.

Anyway, your question. If it's a good fuck and I'm with the right person - I'm sure some of this must be mental - I'll get close, like sit at a 9, and my PoNR fades away like a tiny point. The longer we continue, the further and fainter my PoNR gets (twenty minutes etc) and I can control creeping up to 9.1, 9.2, 9.3... no risk of me blowing, and it feels amazing. It feels better spending 15 minutes let's say in that place than most orgasms I used to have. Not a release, but my body's electric. Is that orgasm? I dunno. I've describved it to people as a half hour long mild orgasm before, so it may as well be.

And I've found sometimes now that after a while I actually can't finish. Not fucking anyway, I've had to pull out and finish myself off with my hands. Furiously. Even then sometimes I can't.

But here's the thing, I'm satisfied, I feel sooooo good. I start to understand how women can still be satisfied with sex even if they don't cum either, it feels just great.

I've been with women and learned to warn them that sometimes I can't cum, so they don't take it personally. I'd really like to be in that place, but flick a switch and finish, get the release and the endorphins, and after that much build up, I'll not be able to walk properly! But sometimes I can't, so I've still got work to do on myself.

There are worse problems to have. I can't cum from oral any more, but done right it sends me through the roof, shouting and all sorts, so whether that's orgasm or plateau or not, I don't really care, but I'll take that any day off the week. All day please. I'll take the day off work. Shut the doors.

What was the one thing that made a bigger difference than all of it? I suppose that depends on the person
I'm not really sure, not anything that would be helpful for you now other than something to look forward to, but for me, tipping the balance at first and having room to carry on wasn't the end of the story. It was release. A new horizon. I'd learned so much more about my body and my arousal that never leaves you and changes everything. I still had work to do, I wanted to not just get better, but get better than most men. I'd never had that freedom in sex before, ever, so sex was never again ten minutes of penetration just to be enough, it became a party, where it wasn't about my orgasm any more, and I could start and stop, move, start and stop, turn her on her head, tie her up, start and stop for hours, and in that place, she gets a lot of attention. And I found, very soon, that when you can go for an hour, be creative, get her off as well as any previous man, if not better (and that was never about the size of my cock), those women become very very open to pushing boundaries. I spent time swinging, having group sex, bdsm, lots of things that made sex a story and a way of life, not just a fuck and a notch on the bed post. Being in that place changed my head, how I felt about myself, how I saw sex, how I saw relationships for ever. And I know I can still get better, it's exciting as all hell.

And I know I'd have never got to this place without having been through PE.
 

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man, I talk too much
 

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@Spanky your words are inspirational hats off to you appreciate it, As you above said its a most physiological part could you advise us how did we fix this issue??

Jesus you can't cum now OMG!
 

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man, I talk too much

Please don't ever say that!

You have really changed your whole outlook on life and sex in such a inspirational way

I really appeciate your reply and I am sure everyone on this forum does too! And to have you still posting even after you have beaten PE is a great thing in itself
 

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flattery will get you everywhere ;)
 

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Ok guys, can someone please explain what I experienced with edging tonight

- got hard with dry rub - 3 mins
- started thrusting the FL with lube standing up
- went for 8 mins with no PONR laid down on my bed (my weakness)
- about the 12 min mark I got a huge IK
- immediately stopped as I felt the cum fill up and start to rise through
- pushed a RK hold for 5-10 seconds while it felt like I actually came
- didn't get the whole "shoot" feel or "I'm finished" but I kinda felt like I came
- waited until it subsided and went again after a min and was still hard but not as strong
- went until 20 mins with no PONR and it felt great
- stopped and checked the FL and to my surprise no cum?!

Did I accidentally experience a dry orgasm? I've never experienced anything like this in my life

Thanks guys!
 

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Did you feel orgasm or just the feeling of the ejaculating?

It was definitely PONR. Not sure, maybe just the feeling of ejaculation
Could feel the cum build up from my shaft and then I successfully stopped it by doing RK

After I stopped it I felt like I could go forever